gftChris Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Unfortunately there's no parties over here with that general agenda. Conservatives are always trying to appeal to their back-benchers, and so always being anti-immigration, anti-rights, anti-most things accepted as normal. Liberals and Labour are just far too socialist with their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 The party is basically socially liberal and fiscally conservative (this is a gross oversimplification). It will probably split both votes should it succeed. Sounds like a good mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 My opinion is, that a very large percentage, of those who wildly supported buttock obamao and his phony persona when he first ran for president... an outrageous percentage of those being black, and voting for him for being black.... have found out the truth, and stayed home, because they are liberal and would never vote for the right person for office during the midterms. And, midterms don't get the same degree of voting, maybe always. An outrageous amount? What does that mean? Don't blacks usually vote Dem? Also, I'm guessing there was a portion of voters voting against Obama because he was black, so that probably went both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Will the Rep party now split again between tea party conservatives and more moderate Republicans? It looked like a decently diverse group of Reps got elected in too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 The best thing that came out this election for me was the formation of a new party by voting for the independent that was running for governor. He got enough votes to form the United Independent Party, of which I will be changing my registration to. No most Muslims vote Liberal especially the 3rd world ones because they get so much welfare. Most Muslims in the US are on some form of Welfare GO TO HILLTOP in Columbus where the Somali's live, it's all Welfare and they breed like roaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Do you really think I'm going to vote Republican when half the conservatives in this forum want to ethnically cleanse all Muslims? No most Muslims vote Liberal especially the 3rd world ones because they get so much welfare. Most Muslims in the US are on some form of Welfare GO TO HILLTOP in Columbus where the Somali's live, it's all Welfare pirates running around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 No most Muslims vote Liberal especially the 3rd world ones because they get so much welfare. Most Muslims in the US are on some form of Welfare GO TO HILLTOP in Columbus where the Somali's live, it's all Welfare and they breed like roaches. Yep, because where you live is representative of larger US Muslim population. How about some facts instead: American Muslims are Well-Educated 67% of American Muslims have a Bachelor's degree or higher 44% of Americans have a Bachelor’s degree or higher3 The Variance for Advanced Degrees is even greater. One in ten American Muslim HH has a physician / medical doctor American Muslims are Affluent U.S. Average income is $42,158 per year (U.S. Census 2000) 66% of American Muslim HH's earn over $50,000 / year 26% of American Muslim HH's earn over $100,000 / year source: http://www.allied-media.com/AM/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Yep, because where you live is representative of larger US Muslim population. How about some facts instead: American Muslims are Well-Educated 67% of American Muslims have a Bachelor's degree or higher 44% of Americans have a Bachelor’s degree or higher3 The Variance for Advanced Degrees is even greater. One in ten American Muslim HH has a physician / medical doctor American Muslims are Affluent U.S. Average income is $42,158 per year (U.S. Census 2000) 66% of American Muslim HH's earn over $50,000 / year 26% of American Muslim HH's earn over $100,000 / year source: http://www.allied-media.com/AM/ Allied Media.com. Yes, I trust them....... Muslims are just so educated and affluent, and peaceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Allied Media.com. Yes, I trust them....... Muslims are just so educated and affluent, and peaceful. They didn't collect the data. They're referencing other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Yep, because where you live is representative of larger US Muslim population. How about some facts instead: American Muslims are Well-Educated 67% of American Muslims have a Bachelor's degree or higher 44% of Americans have a Bachelors degree or higher3 The Variance for Advanced Degrees is even greater. One in ten American Muslim HH has a physician / medical doctor American Muslims are AffluentU.S. Average income is $42,158 per year (U.S. Census 2000) 66% of American Muslim HH's earn over $50,000 / year 26% of American Muslim HH's earn over $100,000 / year source: http://www.allied-media.com/AM/ I believe that. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I believe that. WSS Kiss ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Kiss ass.Bullshit.I would bet that most in other countries especially the EU would probably fall into your category but not the ones from Middle East that have come to the United States. I'd also bet it wasnt true about the Somalians in America. (since somalia is a third world shit hole) But that's a completely different species but just share the roots of a religion. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Horse shit. Most from Egypt work at Burger King. You believe all this shit from Osris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Horse shit. Most from Egypt work at Burger King. You believe all this shit from Osris. Well I think you're talking out your ass. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Most actual middle easterners I've met were not particularly wealthy or prosperous but a lot of indians are muslims and they seem to be doing pretty well for themselves over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Most actual middle easterners I've met were not particularly wealthy or prosperous but a lot of indians are muslims and they seem to be doing pretty well for themselves over here. I think you will find that the Indians are mostly Hindu the Muslims form over there are Pakistanis more often than not. Of course the Indians put a high priority on education and success. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 India compromises 11% of the world's muslims. A rather significant number actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 India compromises 11% of the world's muslims. A rather significant number actually. More than I would have expected, but then again a ton of people live in India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Well I think you're talking out your ass. WSS WSS believes me because I provide evidence that is sourced from multiple universities and agencies. Your "source" is your own hate. It blinds you to facts that disagree with your beliefs. And WSS is right, the reason the Muslim population here is educated and on average more affluent is because it costs a lot of money to come here, therefore the system selects for the more affluent and educated Muslims. And LOL at Burger King. Almost every Egyptian in my community is either an engineer, doctor, or dentist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 India compromises 11% of the world's muslims. A rather significant number actually. Only 13% of the Republic of India is Muslim. Islam is a state religion of Pakistan. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Like woody said a shit load of people live in India. Though Muslims make up only 14.4 percent of Indias total population, the country maintains the worlds second-largest Muslim population in raw numbers (roughly 176 million), according to a 2013 report by the Pew Research Center. Thats a little more than 11 percent of the worlds total Muslim population, according to another report from Pews Religion and Public Life Project. http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/op-talk/2014/10/16/why-indias-muslims-havent-radicalized/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upper lip Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yep, because where you live is representative of larger US Muslim population. How about some facts instead: American Muslims are Well-Educated 67% of American Muslims have a Bachelor's degree or higher 44% of Americans have a Bachelor’s degree or higher3 The Variance for Advanced Degrees is even greater. One in ten American Muslim HH has a physician / medical doctor American Muslims are Affluent U.S. Average income is $42,158 per year (U.S. Census 2000) 66% of American Muslim HH's earn over $50,000 / year 26% of American Muslim HH's earn over $100,000 / year source: http://www.allied-media.com/AM/ What are the American percentages if you take out blacks and Mexicans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upper lip Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 The only Muslims that do well here are the indians. The middle easterns are generally poor as shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 The only Muslims that do well here are the indians. The middle easterns are generally poor as shit. Nope, wrong again. From the US Census: MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME The median household income for all households in the United States in 2010 dollars was $51,914, about $4,500 dollars lower than the median household income for Arab households ($56,433—see Figure 2). http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr10-20.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 WSS believes me because I provide evidence that is sourced from multiple universities and agencies. Your "source" is your own hate. It blinds you to facts that disagree with your beliefs. And WSS is right, the reason the Muslim population here is educated and on average more affluent is because it costs a lot of money to come here, therefore the system selects for the more affluent and educated Muslims. And LOL at Burger King. Almost every Egyptian in my community is either an engineer, doctor, or dentist. Yes, we know how successful the Muslims are. Sharia law, terrorism, etc. Allah Akbar mfer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I think you will find that the Indians are mostly Hindu the Muslims form over there are Pakistanis more often than not. Of course the Indians put a high priority on education and success. WSS Also not bathing, ass backwards caste system, horrendous infrastructure, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Also not bathing, ass backwards caste system, horrendous infrastructure, etc. No doubt at least from what I've heard India would be a horrible place to live. I'm just saying from my experience they are smart and more often than not hardworking and successful. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yes, we know how successful the Muslims are. I'm glad you're finally accepting the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm glad you're finally accepting the facts. 9/11 The Boston Marathon The London Underground Bombings The Madrid Train Bombing The Moscow Airport attack The Mumbai Hotel incident The 1993 Trade Center Bombings killing 6 The 1998 US Embassy Bombings killing 46 The 2000 Christmas Eve Indonesia Bombings killing 18 The 2000 USS Cole Bombing in Yemen killing 17 US Sailors The 2001 Sbarrao Restaurant suicide bombing killing 15 in Iseral, The Suicide Attack on Indian Parliament killing 7 in 2001, The Cafe Moment bombing killing 11 in Jerusalem in 2002 The 2002 Suicide Bomb on Passover at The Seder Hotel killing 30 The 2002 Attacks on The hindu Temple in Raghunath killing 25 The 2002 Bombing in al-Arbaa Algeria killing 49 The 2002 Megiddo Junction bombing killing 17 The 2002 Patt Junction Bus Bombing killing 19 The 2002 Machine Gun attack killing 31 in Ahmedabad, India The 2002 Bombing in Bali at a nightclub killing 202 The 2002 Moscow Theater Crisis killing 170 The 2003 Tel Aviv Bus Station Massacre killing 23 The 2003 Casablanca Attacks killing 33 The 2003 Shmuel HaNavi Bus Bominb killing 23 The 2003 Maxim restaurant suicide booming in Haifa killing 21 The 2004 Madrid Train Bombing killing 191 The 2004 Beslan School crises killing 344 Civilians and 186 school Children The 2004 Sinai bombing killing 34 The 2004 Sinai bombing killing 34 in Egypt The 2005 Bombings in London Underground killing 53 The 2005 Bomb attack in Sharm el -Sheik killing 64 The 2005 Delhi bombings killing over 60 The 2005 Amman bombing killing over 60 The 2006 Varanasi bombings killing 28 The 2006 Mumbai Train Bombings killing 209 The 2008 Bosaso Bombings killing 25 The 2008 Ahmedabad bombings killing 56 The 2008 Mogadishu bombings killing 21 The 2008 Bombings in New Delhi killing 30 The 2008 Bombings kill at least 175 in Mumbia The 2009 Beledweyne bombing killing 35 Baghdad Bombings killing 155 The 2009 Peshawar Bombing killing 110 Women The 2009 Hotel Shamo bombing In Mogadishu killing 25 The 2010 Lakki Pakistand car bombing killing 100 people The 2012 Baghdad bombings killing 73 by the Islamic State of Iraq The 2010 Pune India Bombing killing 17 peopleMali The 2014 Kidnapping of 33 girls by Boko Haram in Nigeria The 2014 execution of Hayam Nariah in Sudan for Apstocay The 2014 beheading of James Foley The 2014 beheading of British Journalist, Isis. The 2014 beheading of 12 people in Kabul, Afganistan by the Taliban for assisting the enemy against Islam. Mali Bali Northern Nigeria Sudan Saudi Arabia Iran Iraq Afganistahn Yemen Pakistan Death for Apostacy Death for Blasphemy Death for Adultery Death for Homosexuality Gender Segregation Gender Discrimination Unequal Testimony between men and women in legal proceedings Imprisonment for being raped No Freedom of Speech No Freedom of Religion No Freedom of The Press No Freedom of Education No Dogs No Music No Science No Art No Alcohol No sex Forced reading of The Quran in elementary schools Forced Child Marriages of Pre-Pubesent girls Forced Genital Circurmcision of 140 MILLION young females Gang Rapes Stonings Beheadings Polygamous Marriages Consent not needing to marry the bride Anti-SemItism In Saudi Arabia (the birthplace of Islam) a women is not aloud to drive, she is not allowed to leave the house, she is not allowed to vote, The Rape, Torture, and Murder of 28 year old Tarenah Mousavi for questioning election results. The slaughter of Theo Von Goff on the Streets of Amsterdam The execution of 2 Pakistani sisters dancing in the rain because females dancing is forbidden under Sharia Law The Muslim Cleric who raped and killed his own daughter Muslims Patrols in East London saying you must obey Sharia Law and chanting The British police should go to hell. The calling for the death of South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone The calling for the death of Family Guy creator Seth McFarlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yes, I can post really long lists, too. The difference is your lost totals maybe a few thousand casualties. This one has millions. Guess who killed these millions of people? US CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & GLOBAL TERRORISM US Use of Weapons of Mass Destruction The indiscriminate use of bombs by the US, usually outside a declared war situation, for wanton destruction, for no military objectives, whose targets and victims are civilian populations, or what we now call "collateral damage." Japan (1945) China (1945-46) Korea & China (1950-53) Guatemala (1954, 1960, 1967-69) Indonesia (1958) Cuba (1959-61) Congo (1964) Peru (1965) Laos (1964-70) Vietnam (1961-1973) Cambodia (1969-70) Grenada (1983) Lebanon (1983-84) Libya (1986) El Salvador (1980s) Nicaragua (1980s) Iran (1987) Panama (1989) Iraq (1991-2000) Kuwait (1991) Somalia (1993) Bosnia (1994-95) Sudan (1998) Afghanistan (1998) Pakistan (1998) Yugoslavia (1999) Bulgaria (1999) Macedonia (1999) US Use of Chemical & Biological Weapons The US has refused to sign Conventions against the development and use of chemical and biological weapons, and has either used or tested (without informing the civilian populations) these weapons in the following locations abroad: Bahamas (late 1940s-mid-1950s) Canada (1953) China and Korea (1950-53) Korea (1967-69) Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia (1961-1970) Panama (1940s-1990s) Cuba (1962, 69, 70, 71, 81, 96) And the US has tested such weapons on US civilian populations, without their knowledge, in the following locations: Watertown, NY and US Virgin Islands (1950) SF Bay Area (1950, 1957-67) Minneapolis (1953) St. Louis (1953) Washington, DC Area (1953, 1967) Florida (1955) Savannah GA/Avon Park, FL (1956-58) New York City (1956, 1966) Chicago (1960) And the US has encouraged the use of such weapons, and provided the technology to develop such weapons in various nations abroad, including: Egypt South Africa Iraq US Political and Military Interventions since 1945 The US has launched a series of military and political interventions since 1945, often to install puppet regimes, or alternatively to engage in political actions such as smear campaigns, sponsoring or targeting opposition political groups (depending on how they served US interests), undermining political parties, sabotage and terror campaigns, and so forth. It has done so in nations such as China (1945-51) South Africa (1960s-1980s) France (1947) Bolivia (1964-75) Marshall Islands (1946-58) Australia (1972-75) Italy (1947-1975) Iraq (1972-75) Greece (1947-49) Portugal (1974-76) Philippines (1945-53) East Timor (1975-99) Korea (1945-53) Ecuador (1975) Albania (1949-53) Argentina (1976) Eastern Europe (1948-56) Pakistan (1977) Germany (1950s) Angola (1975-1980s) Iran (1953) Jamaica (1976) Guatemala (1953-1990s) Honduras (1980s) Costa Rica (mid-1950s, 1970-71) Nicaragua (1980s) Middle East (1956-58) Philippines (1970s-90s) Indonesia (1957-58) Seychelles (1979-81) Haiti (1959) South Yemen (1979-84) Western Europe (1950s-1960s) South Korea (1980) Guyana (1953-64) Chad (1981-82) Iraq (1958-63) Grenada (1979-83) Vietnam (1945-53) Suriname (1982-84) Cambodia (1955-73) Libya (1981-89) Laos (1957-73) Fiji (1987) Thailand (1965-73) Panama (1989) Ecuador (1960-63) Afghanistan (1979-92) Congo (1960-65, 1977-78) El Salvador (1980-92) Algeria (1960s) Haiti (1987-94) Brazil (1961-64) Bulgaria (1990-91) Peru (1965) Albania (1991-92) Dominican Republic (1963-65) Somalia (1993) Cuba (1959-present) Iraq (1990s) Indonesia (1965) Peru (1990-present) Ghana (1966) Mexico (1990-present) Uruguay (1969-72) Colombia (1990-present) Chile (1964-73) Yugoslavia (1995-99) Greece (1967-74) US Perversions of Foreign Elections The US has specifically intervened to rig or distort the outcome of foreign elections, and sometimes engineered sham "demonstration" elections to ward off accusations of government repression in allied nations in the US sphere of influence. These sham elections have often installed or maintained in power repressive dictators who have victimized their populations. Such practices have occurred in nations such as: Philippines (1950s) Italy (1948-1970s) Lebanon (1950s) Indonesia (1955) Vietnam (1955) Guyana (1953-64) Japan (1958-1970s) Nepal (1959) Laos (1960) Brazil (1962) Dominican Republic (1962) Guatemala (1963) Bolivia (1966) Chile (1964-70) Portugal (1974-75) Australia (1974-75) Jamaica (1976) El Salvador (1984) Panama (1984, 89) Nicaragua (1984, 90) Haiti (1987, 88) Bulgaria (1990-91) Albania (1991-92) Russia (1996) Mongolia (1996) Bosnia (1998) US Versus World at the United Nations The US has repeatedly acted to undermine peace and human rights initiatives at the United Nations, routinely voting against hundreds of UN resolutions and treaties. The US easily has the worst record of any nation on not supporting UN treaties. In almost all of its hundreds of "no" votes, the US was the "sole" nation to vote no (among the 100-130 nations that usually vote), and among only 1 or 2 other nations voting no the rest of the time. Here's a representative sample of US votes from 1978-1987: US Is the Sole "No" Vote on Resolutions or Treaties For aid to underdeveloped nations For the promotion of developing nation exports For UN promotion of human rights For protecting developing nations in trade agreements For New International Economic Order for underdeveloped nations For development as a human right Versus multinational corporate operations in South Africa For cooperative models in developing nations For right of nations to economic system of their choice Versus chemical and biological weapons (at least 3 times) Versus Namibian apartheid For economic/standard of living rights as human rights Versus apartheid South African aggression vs. neighboring states (2 times) Versus foreign investments in apartheid South Africa For world charter to protect ecology For anti-apartheid convention For anti-apartheid convention in international sports For nuclear test ban treaty (at least 2 times) For prevention of arms race in outer space For UNESCO-sponsored new world information order (at least 2 times) For international law to protect economic rights For Transport & Communications Decade in Africa Versus manufacture of new types of weapons of mass destruction Versus naval arms race For Independent Commission on Disarmament & Security Issues For UN response mechanism for natural disasters For the Right to Food For Report of Committee on Elimination of Racial Discrimination For UN study on military development For Commemoration of 25th anniversary of Independence for Colonial Countries For Industrial Development Decade in Africa For interdependence of economic and political rights For improved UN response to human rights abuses For protection of rights of migrant workers For protection against products harmful to health and the environment For a Convention on the Rights of the Child For training journalists in the developing world For international cooperation on third world debt For a UN Conference on Trade & Development US Is 1 of Only 2 "No" Votes on Resolutions or Treaties For Palestinian living conditions/rights (at least 8 times) Versus foreign intervention into other nations For a UN Conference on Women Versus nuclear test explosions (at least 2 times) For the non-use of nuclear weapons vs. non-nuclear states For a Middle East nuclear free zone Versus Israeli nuclear weapons (at least 2 times) For a new world international economic order For a trade union conference on sanctions vs. South Africa For the Law of the Sea Treaty For economic assistance to Palestinians For UN measures against fascist activities and groups For international cooperation on money/finance/debt/trade/development For a Zone of Peace in the South Atlantic For compliance with Intl Court of Justice decision for Nicaragua vs. US. **For a conference and measures to prevent international terrorism (including its underlying causes) For ending the trade embargo vs. Nicaragua US Is 1 of Only 3 "No" Votes on Resolutions and Treaties Versus Israeli human rights abuses (at least 6 times) Versus South African apartheid (at least 4 times) Versus return of refugees to Israel For ending nuclear arms race (at least 2 times) For an embargo on apartheid South Africa For South African liberation from apartheid (at least 3 times) For the independence of colonial nations For the UN Decade for Women Versus harmful foreign economic practices in colonial territories For a Middle East Peace Conference For ending the embargo of Cuba (at least 10 times) In addition, the US has: Repeatedly withheld its dues from the UN Twice left UNESCO because of its human rights initiatives Twice left the International Labor Organization for its workers rights initiatives Refused to renew the Antiballistic Missile Treaty Refused to sign the Kyoto Treaty on global warming Refused to back the World Health Organization's ban on infant formula abuses Refused to sign the Anti-Biological Weapons Convention Refused to sign the Convention against the use of land mines Refused to participate in the UN Conference Against Racism in Durban Been one of the last nations in the world to sign the UN Covenant on Political & Civil Rights (30 years after its creation) Refused to sign the UN Covenant on Economic & Social Rights Opposed the emerging new UN Covenant on the Rights to Peace, Development & Environmental Protection Sampling of Deaths >From US Military Interventions & Propping Up Corrupt Dictators (using the most conservative estimates) Nicaragua 30,000 dead Brazil 100,000 dead Korea 4 million dead Guatemala 200,000 dead Honduras 20,000 dead El Salvador 63,000 dead Argentina 40,000 dead Bolivia 10,000 dead Uruguay 10,000 dead Ecuador 10,000 dead Peru 10,000 dead Iraq 1.3 million dead Iran 30,000 dead Sudan 8-10,000 dead Colombia 50,000 dead Panama 5,000 dead Japan 140,000 dead Afghanistan 10,000 dead Somalia 5000 dead Philippines 150,000 dead Haiti 100,000 dead Dominican Republic 10,000 dead Libya 500 dead Macedonia 1000 dead South Africa 10,000 dead Pakistan 10,000 dead Palestine 40,000 dead Indonesia 1 million dead East Timor 1/3-1/2 of total population Greece 10,000 dead Laos 600,000 dead Cambodia 1 million dead Angola 300,000 dead Grenada 500 dead Congo 2 million dead Egypt 10,000 dead Vietnam 1.5 million dead Chile 50,000 dead Other Lethal US Interventions CIA Terror Training Manuals Development and distribution of training manuals for foreign military personnel or foreign nationals, including instructions on assassination, subversion, sabotage, population control, torture, repression, psychological torture, death squads, etc. Specific Torture Campaigns Creation and launching of direct US campaigns to support torture as an instrument of terror and social control for governments in Greece, Iran, Vietnam, Bolivia, Uruguay, Brazil, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Panama Supporting and Harboring Terrorists The promotion, protection, arming or equiping of terrorists such as: . Klaus Barbie and other German Nazis, and Italian and Japanese fascists, after WW II . Manual Noriega (Panama), Saddam Hussein (Iraq), Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic), Osama bin Laden (Afghanistan), and others whose terrorism has come back to haunt us . Running the Higher War College (Brazil) and first School of the Americas (Panama), which gave US training to repressors, death squad members, and torturers (the second School of the Americas is still running at Ft. Benning GA) . Providing asylum for Cuban, Salvadoran, Guatemalan, Haitian, Chilean, Argentinian, Iranian, South Vietnamese and other terrorists, dictators, and torturers Assassinating World Leaders Using assassination as a tool of foreign policy, wherein the CIA has initiated assassination attempts against at least 40 foreign heads of state (some several times) in the last 50 years, a number of which have been successful, such as: Patrice Lumumba (Congo), Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic), Ngo Dihn Diem (Vietnam) Salvador Allende (Chile) Arms Trade & US Military Presence . The US is the world's largest seller of weapons abroad, arming dictators, militaries, and terrorists that repress or victimize their populations, and fueling scores of violent conflicts around the globe . The US is the world's largest provider of live land mines which, even in peacetime, kill or injure at least several people around the world each day . The US has military bases in at least 50 nations around the world, which have led to frequent victimization of local populations. . The US military has been bombing one Middle Eastern or Muslim nation or another almost continuously since 1983, including Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iraq (almost daily bombings since 1991) This, then, is a sampling of American foreign policies over the last 50 years. The FBI uses the following definition for Terrorism: "The unlawful use of force or violence committed by a group or individual, who has some connection to a foreign power or whose activities transcend national boundaries, against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives." This sounds like the terrorism we just experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since 1945 that I've just described. 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