WalterWhite Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Bolt/Five-star-RB-Kareem-Walker-commits-to-Buckeyes-during-title-game-34689365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think someone else committed to you guys too, but he's class of 2017, so it is tough to say whether that means anything now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MLD Woody Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 FYI he's taking an official visit to Michigan this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 FYI - nobody gives a fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 FYI - nobody gives a fuck I do. MICH is looking more and more respectable by the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 https://twitter.com/_KareemWalker/status/661730613569916929/photo/1 oooh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Oh well. Can't be Cinderella forever. Never forget though who won the first ever playoffs. That probably burns Michigan's ass more than being crappy since 1948 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Whatever you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Get him a beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm not broken up about it. A guy with no loyalty probably also lacks heart and commitment to the team. If he ends up at Michigan so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Interesting mental gymnastics lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Not really. I think you're just being a homer. If you weren't you wouldn't struggle to understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Not really. I think you're just being a homer. If you weren't you wouldn't struggle to understand that. I'm no fan of Woody's but,, that's just fucked up.. He's being a homer, but of course you are not when calling a kid you've never met "A guy with no loyalty probably also lacks heart and commitment to the team." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 What do you mean? Any 17 year old kid that commits to OSU, and then decommits, clearly has loyalty problems, not commitment, and lacks heart.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 All I'm saying is when the going gets tough you'd rather have a guy who sticks by his commitments than a guy who doesn't. He can do whatever he wants no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I think you're trying to rationalize something that if you thought for a minute outside of "woo hoo michigan zomg" and put this into a different context would be perfectly logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm no fan of Woody's but,, that's just fucked up.. He's being a homer, but of course you are not when calling a kid you've never met "A guy with no loyalty probably also lacks heart and commitment to the team." What do you call someone who commits to something and then calls it off at the first sign of adversity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 What do you call someone who commits to something and then calls it off at the first sign of adversity? Barry Sanders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Bernie sanders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 What do you call someone who commits to something and then calls it off at the first sign of adversity? Adversity? Maybe Harbaugh just simply gives better head than Urban Cryer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Who cares about recruiting. The big teams will get the best players always. It is about the coaching. Note: Michifuck probably has players that are no better this year than they had the last several years....yet Harbaugh knows how to coach what he has and the other guys they had there, Hoke and Rodriguez did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 More than one variable exists. Recruiting matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 More than one variable exists. Recruiting matters. Slightly. Check this out about the #1 high school recruits. About half became college stars. About half not so much. Some became pros.....a couple outstanding. A few may have never even been drafted: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000323598/article/how-last-10-no-1-college-football-recruits-panned-out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 This goes back a bit further: http://prospect-central.blogspot.com/2013/01/high-school-football-espns-thirty-years.html#.VkpKzNKrS9I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 They've run analyses on the 4 or 5 recruiting classes that a program signed prior to winning a national championship. I forgot what the conclusion was exactly but I'm almost positive that pretty much every national champion of the BCS era averaged at least in the top 10 on the 4 classes combined. It may be higher. I'll try to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 If you say "only 50% of 5* recruits get drafted" that might not sound great. But this argument doesn't exist in a vacuum. What is the percentage for 4*s? 3*s? Here's a hint, its worse. There have been studies on this. Highly rated recruits objectively have a higher chance of succeeding. Recruiting matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Well, what I am saying is that it is a given that the "big schools" are going to get quality recruits. I believe that there is very little difference between the talent on the top 25 recruiting classes. Sure, recruiting matters because the players recruited to go to Ohio State are going to be better than those that go to Akron or other MAC schools. But between the big boys, it is not that significant. Other factors matter more is all I am saying. Michigan may have actually had more quality "recruits" go there over the last 15 years than went to Ohio St. But Ohio St. had Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer coaching......and Michigan didn't. That was a far bigger factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm pretty sure Tressel did just fine getting high quality recruits (Pryors cars, Clarett, etc). The top class is going to be much better than #22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm pretty sure Tressel did just fine getting high quality recruits (Pryors cars, Clarett, etc). The top class is going to be much better than #22. But....what I am saying is that a guy like Tressel, Meyer, maybe Harbaugh.....can take the #22 ranked recruiting class and often beat the #1 ranked recruiting class because they know how to get the best out of them. Now, these guys probably get reputations as great coaches, so many of the best recruits want to go there, so it is a self fulfilling prophecy.......but not always. Nick Saban is known as a great coach and the best players want to go there. But sometimes, say take Michigan (or name some other school) they may have still gotten a Top 5 recruiting class....but could do nothing with it because their coach (Hoke/RR) was not up to par. After a while a school may lose their recruiting edge if the coaches they get don't pan out. Nebraska is a team that comes to mind. For 40 years under Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne they were perhaps the premier program in the nation. Not so much now. They are only going .500 for the past number of years. What happened there? (loss of steroids perhaps?) Or just bad coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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