Adoug319 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I have a buddy who runs a Cleveland sports blog, and he said he's hearing the Browns are trying to send their two first rounders to San Diego for Rivers. Would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 NO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 NO, NO, NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 No, mostly because I know he would leave...... Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 He also is on the wrong side of 30 for a QB that really has never won anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoug319 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 No, mostly because I know he would leave...... Right? Im sure they wouldnt do it unless he was willing to agree to a long term deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 How long-term of a deal do you want with a 33-yo QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why? He is on the wrong side of 30 for a QB that hasn't won anything with a better offense (for the most part) then our current one and he would want a lot of money. Now if it was 33 year old Tom Brady or Peyton Manning I would take him but it isn't..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 The stupid rumors always involve the Browns one way or another. A CBS sports analyst has the Browns trading their 12, 43 and fifth round to Redskins for Mariota. That just doesn't make sense to mortgage the future on a rookie unproven and another past his prime. Even if all the Browns needed was a QB, I would still say no. Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained? Rivers would never agree to a deal with Cleveland thank God. He's not happy about the Chargers potential move to L.A. And would opt out in favor of playing on a team closer to his home. So that's how the rumor started with a potential mock trade with San Diego and Tenessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why? If (which he wouldn't) but if he would sign a 4 or 5 year deal to play here I would certainly think about it. But it doesn't matter. He isn't coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoug319 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, He is on the wrong side of 30 for a QB that hasn't won anything with a better offense (for the most part) then our current one and he would want a lot of money. Now if it was 33 year old Tom Brady or Peyton Manning I would take him but it isn't..... He still has 3 or 4 years left. He's honestly underrated and the Chargers are not that good. He's the most passionate QB in the league, is like Dez Bryant almost too emotional in terms of wanting to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 He still has 3 or 4 years left. He's honestly underrated and the Chargers are not that good. He's the most passionate QB in the league, is like Dez Bryant almost too emotional in terms of wanting to win. You are right about hi being passionate, his "Mic'ed up" segments are so cool. But I guess I was referencing when he had in his prime Antonio Gates and LaDainan Tomlinson and they still didn't get much done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoug319 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 You are right about hi being passionate, his "Mic'ed up" segments are so cool. But I guess I was referencing when he had in his prime Antonio Gates and LaDainan Tomlinson and they still didn't get much done I admit I don't know much about the Chargers, and perhaps he underachieved back then. But what he did 2 seasons ago was special. He was on fire and willed his team to the playoffs. Last year wasnt bad either 31 TDs 18 INTs 4,286 Yds 93.8 Rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Isn't he about a top 8 QB? In response to an above poster, if we were only a QB away, I would definitely take him. And lots of people seem to think we basically are (of course no one's ever really just one player away but we're about as close as you get). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoug319 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Isn't he about a top 8 QB? In response to an above poster, if we were only a QB away, I would definitely take him. And lots of people seem to think we basically are (of course no one's ever really just one player away but we're about as close as you get). He was ranked 10th in QBR last season., one spot ahead of Andrew Luck. So Top 10. An QB is the one position that can mask inadequacies. Just look at Luck with the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Carson Palmer went to the Raiders in a similar deal. That trade ended up being a bust. Even Joe Montana couldn't get the Chiefs to the promise land. Rivers has most likely peaked and hasn't won anything. Philip with his average arm playing in bad weather. Pass. No, run from this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 love phillip rivers and his game....passion for the game. first 2 rounders? no. a 4th round pick and a player/pick to be named later.........hell the f yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoug319 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 love phillip rivers and his game....passion for the game. first 2 rounders? no. a 4th round pick and a player/pick to be named later.........hell the f yeah. Yeah man 2 first rounders is pricey... But if we get the man here, we're a playoff team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I admit I don't know much about the Chargers, and perhaps he underachieved back then. But what he did 2 seasons ago was special. He was on fire and willed his team to the playoffs. Last year wasnt bad either 31 TDs 18 INTs 4,286 Yds 93.8 Rating If Brian Hoyer had put up numbers like that he would have been voted Mayor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained? Ward - Whitner Skrine - Williams Sheard - ? High draft priority Cameron - ? Draft, most likely Rubin - Starks Quit whining and look at what's happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 He was ranked 10th in QBR last season., one spot ahead of Andrew Luck. So Top 10. An QB is the one position that can mask inadequacies. Just look at Luck with the Colts. The year before, he was 2nd behind only Peyton Manning who was performing football miracles that season. Then again, QBR doesn't tell the whole story, unless of course you think Romo was the best QB in the league last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris ******************************************************** Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened. Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened. Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future? Not buying it, even for a plug nickel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yes because this draft class isn't great, our pick at 19 could have well been a late second rounder last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris ******************************************************** Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened. Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened. Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future? Not buying it, even for a plug nickel. Not saying we should go for Rivers - I would do it for one, but not both - but complaining about needing to replace players we've lost, when most of them *have* been replaced is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Till the moving truck shows up, another non story. Right Art Moe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 or, not true.... Depends on which postion you draft at 19. The rbs, offensive linemen, edge rushers, defensive tackles, inside linebackers in 2015 are better than 2014. Cornerbacks are even. And it isn't just 19 - it was both first round picks. Two players the Browns need vs a 33 yrd old qb from San Diego...I think that's absurd - just my opinion. The Browns need major improvements to their roster to build a winner, they aren't that far away. They don't need what amounts to a "last piece of the puzzle". http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2431167-2014-vs-2015-position-by-position-nfl-draft-class-comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why? Old guy who has openly said he would only like to play in the south if he had to leave San Diego. On top of that, you get 2-3 years at most out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Id say yes IF we were just a QB away from the Super Bowl......gotta strike while the iron is hot...... But, we aren't there yet, so my answer is NO...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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