Zombo Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yes. With a contract extension. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'd think about it for #19 if a contract extension is involved. However, I've heard from a San Diego writer that Rivers would sooner retire than leave San Diego. He's got plenty of money, four kids, and doesn't want to put them through a relocation. It sounds like he's fairly ingrained in his community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Agree with some others here-I'd GLADLY give up #19 and a 4th-5th if it came with a contract extension. Phil may be 33 but he's still a top 10 QB in the NFL. Hell if he gave us 3 years of solid QB play that would be better than any frikin first round QB we've drafted. For a one year rental though-no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I would rather get Rivers then trade both to move up for Mariota. So if Rivers is plan A and Mariota is plan B. I'm 120% for plan A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitchTits Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 The stupid rumors always involve the Browns one way or another. A CBS sports analyst has the Browns trading their 12, 43 and fifth round to Redskins for Mariota. That just doesn't make sense to mortgage the future on a rookie unproven and another past his prime. Even if all the Browns needed was a QB, I would still say no. Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained? Rivers would never agree to a deal with Cleveland thank God. He's not happy about the Chargers potential move to L.A. And would opt out in favor of playing on a team closer to his home. So that's how the rumor started with a potential mock trade with San Diego and Tenessee. Do you seriously think 12, 43 and a fifth round pick counts as mortgaging our future? That's a pittance compared to what people trade to land their qb of the future. I don't know if Mariotta would be the right guy for us or not, but right now, we have no one else. I would be happy as heck to land Marcus for that price. Just a few years ago, it might have cost us 3 consecutive number 1's. To only lose one number 1 pick is a far better deal then trading two number ones for Rivers. Also keep in mind, Rivers may not sign here long term, that is true, but rookie first round contracts are 4 years, with a team option 5th year I believe. By then hopefully we would have something built around him to make him want to stay. Hx214, and JRB12711, you guys really think giving up that much would benefit this team? Rivers would be more then #19 and a 5, likely #19 and a 3 minimum. If you are not trading the 2 1's to move up for Marcus, it will take our other 1, our 2, and likely a pick next year as well. That is a whole heck of a lot to give up for 2 players, which only one will start. We would essentially lose all our picks till round 4-5, and likely a no.2 next year as well. That's WAY to much to lose for Rivers, and Marcus. And that's only if the trade up doesn't cost us our next year 1, which it could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 If this happened and I were a Browns fan I would burn all my gear and find a new team. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Well I think it's one of these three answers: No Hell no Fuck no. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark O Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'd think about it for #19 if a contract extension is involved. However, I've heard from a San Diego writer that Rivers would sooner retire than leave San Diego. He's got plenty of money, four kids, and doesn't want to put them through a relocation. It sounds like he's fairly ingrained in his community. It's a non story. He ain't coming here. If he's going anywhere it will be Tennessee or somewhere like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 A CBS sports analyst has the Browns trading their 12, 43 and fifth round to Redskins for Mariota. That just doesn't make sense to mortgage the future on a rookie Even if all the Browns needed was a QB, I would still say no. First, a 1st, 2nd, and 5th would be absolutely nothing to get a potential franchise QB. That is NOT mortgaging the future, and I would make that trade yesterday if it was actually on the table... ... that would leave us with Mariota, pick 19, a 3rd rounder, 2 4th rounders, 2 6th rounders, and a 7th rounder... plenty of picks to improve our "future"... Second, how many other needs do we have? We were 6-3 with "average-at-best" QB play, and then tanked instantly when Hoyer started to lose it... I can see us benefiting from beefing up a bunch of other positions, BUT when you have 10 picks, and 2 of them are 1st rounders, then I think it would be an epic failure if we don't somehow improve our QB situation... even if that means trading 3 picks to get the guy we want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 As far as Rivers... no thanks to 2 first rounders... BUT if he's willing to sign a 4-year deal I'd make a reasonable offer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why? Besides the age thing (my post above your question) I've always had the feeling that the guy is an asshole... a talented asshole, but an asshole. Case in point: "As Philip Rivers does whenever his team doesn’t win, he whines, he cries, and he throws a temper tantrum. The leadership of any football team starts with the quarterback, and that is exactly where the Chargers are weak. It wasn’t necessarily his level of play that cost the Chargers this crucial win, it’s that Rivers is very weak minded. When the going gets tough, he handles it by yelling at his teammates and throwing his helmet: a recipe for disaster. When his back is against the wall, number seventeen likes to point fingers and cause a scene" Maybe I would change my mind if he were our asshole, but... no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Not saying we should go for Rivers - I would do it for one, but not both - but complaining about needing to replace players we've lost, when most of them *have* been replaced is stupid. I agree, if the FO was going to give up #19 for china doll Bradford I would say pull the trigger and bring Rivers here. But for both number #1's. . . HELL no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cheesedick Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 This is a ridiculous topic. We're Browns fans. Let's talk about uniforms and colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 This is a ridiculous topic. We're Browns fans. Let's talk about uniforms and colors. Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 If this happened and I were a Browns fan I would burn all my gear and find a new team. Seriously. You are one annoying fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 19 and a 4th rounder, pull the trigger. Both 1st rounders? No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'd trade our second round pick, Manziel, and Haslam for Phillip Rivers, Maybe even throw in Josh Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 "I love the smell of smoke screens in the morning. Smells like............Victory!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Tough call but I might. Five years as a contender would be good for business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 19 and thats it. He stated that he isnt going t rene his contract next year. So the ball is not in the Chargers court. If he doesnt agree to sign an extension, then F him. Rivers is an asshole, but would be the best qb we have had in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 You are one annoying fellow. If you'd trade the Browns two firsts this year for Rivers you are a dumb one. You don't trade two firsts for any franchise qb pushing mid 30's and Rivers sure as hell isn't the answer in Cleveland. The Browns would maybe be .500 with him under center. You've got a bunch of journeyman at wr, no proven tight end. Trading two firsts for Rivers would be absolutely mindless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Rivers couldn't win with a hall of famer at rb and tight end. The chargers would probably jump at two firsts to send rivers somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hall of famer at RB? What am I forgetting? Also, you think our record only improves by one win adding Phillip freaking Rivers? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hall of famer at RB? What am I forgetting? Also, you think our record only improves by one win adding Phillip freaking Rivers? Wow. You trade those two firsts. There goes Shelton for example. You have who at receiver to draw coverage? Gordon can't stay on the field. Cameron is gone. You replaced him with housler who is an athletic freak of sorts but isn't an accomplished receiver. The Browns also play in a tough division. Sure he may equate to more than one win but he's not going to make the browns contenders. He may not even get the Browns to a divison title. If you ask me he's an overrated qb, that has never won anything. He throws for a lot of yards which gets him in pro bowls. He's a serial whiner as well. Tomlinson will be in the hall of fame, so will gates. I meant future hall of famers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck The Frowns Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 No. That is the kind of move a team that lacks only a QB would make. By the time the Browns could build a contender around him he'd hang up his spikes. On the other hand, with the success rate of the Browns number ones, maybe it is not a bad idea to just trade them away. At least you know what you're getting. And the Browns will probably have two good number one picks in 2016 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 By the time the Browns could build a contender around him he'd hang up his spikes. I don't want to do the trade but from the looks of ESPN the Browns are closer to building a contender then the Stoolers. http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12179331/how-many-players-away-super-bowl-was-team So try and know more about the rival team if you are gonna come on their forum... Also Fuck the Steelers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Columbus, when can we see that for this year? That's crazy that they predicted the Cowboys success off of an 8-8 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Columbus, when can we see that for this year? That's crazy that they predicted the Cowboys success off of an 8-8 year. Well I believe that is for teams on the upcoming year, notice how they left out Seattle and New England, the super bowl teams? Maybe they just didn't have time to analyze the 2014 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't want to do the trade but from the looks of ESPN the Browns are closer to building a contender then the Stoolers. http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12179331/how-many-players-away-super-bowl-was-team So try and know more about the rival team if you are gonna come on their forum... Also Fuck the Steelers Any self respecting football fan can see right through this article that was written and posted smack in the middle of the offseason. It puts zero consideration in the pedigree and potential of players. If I rmemeber correctly it puts almost zero stock in guys like tuitt, Shazier and Jarvis Jones for example for the steelers. It was a shit article then and its a shit article now. If they put the steelers at the top I'd still be saying its a shit article. ESPN is also garbage. Edit: and I'm the king of Columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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