sisky fringo Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't want him trying to shoehorn in guys from the Shurmer and that other guy who's name I can't remember now era. you remembered shurmur but forgot Mangini? holy shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I expect a much better performance this week against the Tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 i'm curious what you said but u need to come back to earth if you think u are so infinitely insightful someone would actually hunt for it without a link. how about helping a nugga out and putting in some effort. please. You responded to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 i did? well hell. glad i didn't miss it but i still feel cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 you remembered shurmur but forgot Mangini? holy shit. Chudzinski...just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 ...and penalties......lots and lots of penalties......Bito, Mack, Greco & Schwartz all pitched in...... Isnt that what we did last season??.......just over 1 year ago Farmer started and we now have replaced 80% of the team(over 1 season).....maybe they should have replaced 100%...?.....Sheesh...talk about the need for instant gratification... Our fans expect worst to first......or else....screw em.... Considering the D line had so many injuries last season, I was giving them the benefit of the doubt.....but OLB's.....they were my mantra for the draft last season(and for 2016 too)....... And we let the best one go, when Sheard left for NE....(our #1 rated LB against the run last year, btw) Should have signed Aldon Smith. Oakland quietly did and as far as I can tell has received no PR fallout whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 you remembered shurmur but forgot Mangini? holy shit. How many guys do we still have from the mangini era besides JT and Haden? The front 7 has no one from 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Mack. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Should have signed Aldon Smith. Oakland quietly did and as far as I can tell has received no PR fallout whatever. Nobody cares about oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Chudzinski...just a guess. haha wow. touche to both. I actually forgot about Chud too. this team morphs faster than cloud patterns...it's almost nearly impossible to totally keep up and be involved with anything else in life. ugh. if it weren't for the masochistic passion it would be utterly exhaustingggggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Should have signed Aldon Smith. Oakland quietly did and as far as I can tell has received no PR fallout whatever. yeah....but he should be suspended anyday now......possibly for the whole year......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Fa real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Fa real? Im thinkin so......was already suspended in 2013 for 5 games due to a dui...then missed 9 games last season for substance abuse......and NOW, has been charged(again) with DUI, plus hit and run..... He's gone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Isnt that what we did last season??.......just over 1 year ago Farmer started and we now have replaced 80% of the team(over 1 season).....maybe they should have replaced 100%...?.....Sheesh...talk about the need for instant gratification... Our fans expect worst to first......or else....screw em.... Considering the D line had so many injuries last season, I was giving them the benefit of the doubt.....but OLB's.....they were my mantra for the draft last season(and for 2016 too)....... no instant grat dude, but c'mon...last year we were competitive, at least at the beginning of the season. THat is "offensively" of course. And we were told that just wait the defense will come along. Well they won't, nothing has been fixed from last year. I see what Pettine's stamp has left in Buffalo and frankly i'd be willing to get rid of any guys who Pettine doesn't feel can properly run his Defense. Which obviously they can't. I'm more willing to firesale a lot of guys than I am to get a new coach in here and say "well now let's see what you can do with these guys". That's been done for years now. Bring in a coach and let him draft specifically for his fit for years. Farmer may not be who we thought he was either. I hate saying that but that dude has made some very questionable decisions lately. And frankly his drafting isn't panning out either. He refuses to acknowledge that guys that catch balls, especially poorly thrown ones, are incredibly valuable in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Should have signed Aldon Smith. Oakland quietly did and as far as I can tell has received no PR fallout whatever. His talent slipped, and in any case it's obvious now how much he benefitted from lining up next to Justin Smith. Is Justin Smith or anyone like him on on this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Im thinkin so......was already suspended in 2013 for 5 games due to a dui...then missed 9 games last season for substance abuse......and NOW, has been charged(again) with DUI, plus hit and run..... He's gone.... right, what on earth would be the point of signing defensive josh Gordon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 His talent slipped, and in any case it's obvious now how much he benefitted from lining up next to Justin Smith. Is Justin Smith or anyone like him on on this team? Tuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Tuck? Tuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Tuck? Justin Tuck? Not Justin Smith? Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Justin Tuck? Not Justin Smith? Or am I missing something? no Aldon played alongside Smith in SF. Is Tuck in Oakland now or something? I'm just saying that a lot of Aldons success came from looping and stunting around one of the best 5-Techs in years. And yeah Justin benefitted from Aldon too on question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 no Aldon played alongside Smith in SF. Is Tuck in Oakland now or something? I'm just saying that a lot of Aldons success came from looping and stunting around one of the best 5-Techs in years. And yeah Justin benefitted from Aldon too on question. Yes, Justin Tuck is in Oakland since last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Yes, Justin Tuck is in Oakland since last year. Does oak run a 4-3 or 3-4? Tuck is a proto 4-3 DE. I don't think in a 3-4 Aldon is going to benefit from playing outside Tuck like he did with Smith. Justin could take two lineman and move them out of the way for Aldon. Tuck isn't going to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Justin smith a few years ago was probably legit the strongest guy in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm sick of making excuses for the OL. We're trying to have one of the best in the league. Like no worse than top 3. That's the goal, right? Well who does everyone think is #1? The Cowboys. All their OL did last year was go into Seattle and have a 100 yard rusher. Go into St. Louis and have a 100 yard rusher. Go to Arizona and have their RB over 4 ypc and 70 yards. 100 yard rusher against the Lions. No problem. Host the top-32, 2015 NYG Defense and post a total of 60 yards rushing... No Problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 is Joe Haden still a Top 5 corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 is Joe Haden still a Top 5 corner? Mike, that doesn't bother me as much as the question. Is Justin Gilbert anything better than an Arena League corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Haden has been average, bad, or terrible, and it's completely ignored because of a couple good games. I think it's worth addressing. When you pay a guy as much as team has, you're not supposed to see that type of performance. Patrick Peterson was another guy like Haden who got a big pay day and has been abused a lot. It's strange that sometimes hype creates reality. I do think Joe is a good player who had a bad game, but his bad games are too frequent in my opinion. Justin Gilbert could get better, but it's really weird how he's not getting better. That pick-6 vs. Luck was really encouraging last season. Maybe he can't get out of his own head, it sounds like he has some psychological stuff going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 is Joe Haden still a Top 5 corner? He never was, unless you are talking about his salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Joe is of course a very great player, but he's extremely inconsistent. He can shut down AJ Green and then get owned by Brandon Marshall. You never know with him. He definitely has the talent. I think we need a better game plan next time around altogether too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 no instant grat dude, but c'mon...last year we were competitive, at least at the beginning of the season. THat is "offensively" of course. And we were told that just wait the defense will come along. Well they won't, nothing has been fixed from last year. I see what Pettine's stamp has left in Buffalo and frankly i'd be willing to get rid of any guys who Pettine doesn't feel can properly run his Defense. Which obviously they can't. I'm more willing to firesale a lot of guys than I am to get a new coach in here and say "well now let's see what you can do with these guys". That's been done for years now. Bring in a coach and let him draft specifically for his fit for years. Farmer may not be who we thought he was either. I hate saying that but that dude has made some very questionable decisions lately. And frankly his drafting isn't panning out either. He refuses to acknowledge that guys that catch balls, especially poorly thrown ones, are incredibly valuable in this league. Cleve I said it last year and I'll say it this year, for the most part we beat bums last year. Our strength of schedule is harder this year and talent on offense is less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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