Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Mayock has him at 1. I trust him over Lance Zierlein. I have him as my one and I trust me the most. But, then again, I also don't really like the whole big board argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Improved NFL.com draft profile grade - 6.51. He's now only slightly behind Goff's 6.57. Don't know how much Wentz has risen, but Goff has fallen. Was once in the 6.7's... slightly higher than Bosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I have him as my one and I trust me the most. But, then again, I also don't really like the whole big board argument. As do I, but we are talking about NFL.com right now. No biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Don't know how much Wentz has risen, but Goff has fallen. Was once in the 6.7's... slightly higher than Bosa. Because he played so well in the games that he has played in in the last week? Sorry, this is Retarded that these guys ranking scores move up and down like the price of gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 As do I, but we are talking about NFL.com right now. No biggie. That is very true, I probably shouldn't have brought up my big board beliefs while talking about a big board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Because he played so well in the games that he has played in in the last week? Sorry, this is Retard that these guys ranking scores move up and down like the price of gas. Hand size would be my guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hand size would be my guess... Who did he jerk off in the last day or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 That is very true, I probably shouldn't have brought up my big board beliefs while talking about a big board. "I have him as my one and I trust me the most." is what I was referring to. I have him one, too, but was discussing Mayock's rankings update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 "I have him as my one and I trust me the most." is what I was referring to. I have him one, too, but was discussing Mayock's rankings update. This has been a lesson in "internet miscommunication". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Guys who evaluate talent for a living thought Ryan Leaf and Jemarcus Russell were good ideas. If the Browns draft a QB @ 2, and he stinks, it would mean a bunch of 4-12 seasons. Good news is that's what we are used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Guys who evaluate talent for a living thought Ryan Leaf and Jemarcus Russell were good ideas. If the Browns draft a QB @ 2, and he stinks, it would mean a bunch of 4-12 seasons. Good news is that's what we are used to.Well, guys who evaluate talent for a living weren't wrong. Both of those guys were talented. That's why guys who evaluate talent for a living aren't GM's, they're scouts. But actual GM's do infinitely more than evaluate talent, and good ones likely noticed that both Russell and Leaf had issues outside of football that were legitimate red flags. From what we've been presented as fans, neither of these guys present those same issues. For the record, I was out on Russell. Not on Leaf, though... ...then again, I was only 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Well, guys who evaluate talent for a living weren't wrong. Both of those guys were talented. That's why guys who evaluate talent for a living aren't GM's, they're scouts. But actual GM's do infinitely more than evaluate talent, and good ones likely noticed that both Russell and Leaf had issues outside of football that were legitimate red flags. From what we've been presented as fans, neither of these guys present those same issues. For the record, I was out on Russell. Not on Leaf, though... ...then again, I was only 9. We don't have a GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 We don't have a GM Therein lies our problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 ...then again, I was only 9. Excuses, excuses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Saw him on Gruden's QB camp, and he came off as smart and affable. Not sure if he would transition from North Dakota St. to putting the Browns on his back and helping them win a championship ... but he would be a more a likeable guy than Quinn, Weeds and Manzie, that's for sure. He seems to have all the tools and the brain to pick up what he's missing. Hue Jack got Flacco up and running in year one coming out of Delaware, so maybe he's the man for this job. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Gruden says Wentz is most NFL ready QB he has met in "years" https://t.co/lsyEcVTl8P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Gruden says Wentz is most NFL ready QB he has met in "years" https://t.co/lsyEcVTl8P ... actual comment is "a couple years"... ... and then Jon said all he needs to do is "everything faster quicker". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Fortunately for me that moniker has been assigned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Carson Wentz is absolutely everything I'd look for in a qb. And, every single qb that ever comes out of college has to learn to do things faster/quicker. The league is faster/quicker. But nobody is smarter than Wentz. And he LOVES the game. I can't imagine the Browns not drafting him at #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 ..Unless Tunsil is available. Which he will be. Because Titans will now be taking Ramsey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 ... every single qb that ever True, but the "quick" gap is not the same for all players. I get the Wentz attraction.... great kid, personable, big, only a tad goofy, big hands. But he is and will remain #2 on my QB board. Should we call his name, I will not have to fight the fight I did with our last QB draftee... to keep my dinner down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Should we call his name, I will not have to fight the fight I did with our last QB draftee... to keep my dinner down. Lucky his name isnt ralph..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Lucky his name isnt ralph..... Yep, that would be risky business indeed..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 "I think he's the most NFL-ready quarterback that we've had in the last couple of years." Gruden says in the Wentz feature, which will air in April." from a MKC article, Cleveland.com Mayock compared him to Andrew Luck, saying: "When I look at him, I see a kid that's as athletic or more athletic than Andrew Luck, He's bigger than Andrew Luck. He's got arm strength comparable to Andrew Luck. He just doesn't have the experience that Andrew Luck had..." Greg Cosell of NFL Films: "Hands down, Wentz was the best quarterback in these workouts." (in the combine) Of course the Browns should, and will? draft Wentz at #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Uh oh.....that doesnt bode well for Wentz, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Don't know about that -- the #1 will be Ramsey to Titans. So, Tunsil will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Uh oh.....that doesnt bode well for Wentz, does it? I didn't see Homeless Bob chiming in with a favorable opinion of Wentz so it is all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 if Cosell likes Wentz, I need to take another look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 well, look at it this way, if even Cosell is on board, it must be extremely obvious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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