Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 The difference with Luck was he played for one of the top teams in the country, against some of the best competition in the country. Also, he was the #1 rated QB for his final 2yrs, not just from a weekend in shorts and a tank top......... Big, big difference between the two. Not even close. I'm not saying he won't be the Browns savior, hopefully he will, but he is a reach, especially at 2. Just because you didn't know who the guy was until last weekend doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Heard about Wentz from Mayock well before the Senior Bowl, we're talking December. Was watching his games shortly after. There were actually a lot of mock drafts having Wentz go #2 to Browns before/during Sr Bowl practice week. He's not really a Combine Creation like you're saying DBone. @TonyPauline: Jets, Browns, Texans & Rams have personnel ppl & scouts on hand to watch Carson Wentz/QB/ND St at the FCS title game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Check, check. January 9th: User Actions Following Mike MayockVerified account@MikeMayock Mike Mayock Retweeted Harry Brenner I'm saying he's in the conversation to be the 1st qb taken...if he checks all the intangible boxes- watch out ! Mike MayockVerified account @MikeMayock 28 Nov 2015 Just watched 2 tapes of Carson Wentz...NDSU QB...big kid can sling it ! Senior Bowl week important for him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Just because you didn't know who the guy was until last weekend doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. That's fine, as I don't follow every small town, small college prospect. Hopefully people like yourself are correct, and if Hue does in fact take him at 2, then that will be all the confirmation that I need. Gotta go ride my mtn bike 18 miles........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Pro Day's are Scheduled Wentz 3-24...Goff 3-18... Hey Ray...Browns will be there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 The difference with Luck was he played for one of the top teams in the country, against some of the best competition in the country. Also, he was the #1 rated QB for his final 2yrs, not just from a weekend in shorts and a tank top......... Big, big difference between the two. Not even close. I'm not saying he won't be the Browns savior, hopefully he will, but he is a reach, especially at 2. Again, I wasn't comparing the two outside of the respective offensive styles that their teams primarily employed. In case you missed that whole "Not that I'm saying they're the same (players)" part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Luck luck luck luck luck. Doesn't he have to win a Superbowl before he goes to the Hall of Fame? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Did Marino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 doesnt have to win a super bowl to still be considered the best prospect we've seen in a decade....which is the context here....pretty simple, really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 So you'd rather have luck then any other quarterback playing today? Fair enough. I think he's turned into a cliché. And I guess after he's had some time in the league, Tour, we'll see. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/andrew-luck-worst-qb-rating-stats-most-interceptions-indianapolis-colts-playoffs-record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/andrew-luck-worst-qb-rating-stats-most-interceptions-indianapolis-colts-playoffs-record I would still take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 So you'd rather have luck then any other quarterback playing today? Fair enough. I think he's turned into a cliché. Just like almost every other debate Ive had with you...I didnt say that.....as usual, you've taken a statement and made it something completely different....."context" is everything... "best prospect" has nothing do do with who the best QB in the league today...and everything to do with how players are selected in the draft...."before" anyone knows what they'll do in the league.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I wasn't even taking issue with you. Just saying that the Andrew Luck broken record gets a little tiresome. Fuck him, and fuck any quarterback that's not a Cleveland Brown. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I wasn't even taking issue with you. Just saying that the Andrew Luck broken record gets a little tiresome. Fuck him, and fuck any quarterback that's not a Cleveland Brown. WSS Fair enough.....but I would still take him if he were available for the QB of the Cleveland Browns. Look.....we kinda sorta hated Terry Bradshaw (only in a football rivalry sense), but I wish that the Steelers had taken Mike Phipps #1 overall that year and left Bradshaw for us. Yes, clearly it is true that the Steeler overall team in the 70s was great and that certainly Bradshaw would not likely have had the same success here as in Pisstown, but it would be nice to speculate to possibility. (Does anyone think Mike Phipps would have QBd those Steelers to 4 SB titles? Highly unlikely imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I wasn't even taking issue with you. Just saying that the Andrew Luck broken record gets a little tiresome. Fuck him, and fuck any quarterback that's not a Cleveland Brown. WSS And fuck one quarterback who IS a Cleveland Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 And fuck one quarterback who IS a Cleveland Brown. Manziel? I thought you said "Was" and was thinking you were talking about Spergeon Wynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEK216 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Not sure if this has been posted yet but it's pretty cool https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LUSnzJ4nwmQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Wentz is the kid to inspire the Browns football team, and all the fans... It's a no-brainer, all due respect to Goff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 It's a no-brainer, all due respect to Goff. Clearly we've tried the no-brainer route... a lot... Brainer, please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Im kinda feeling like there are very few "brainers" in this draft.....while it's not terrible, it kind of feels like a dud draft overall to me.....which pretty much figures in a year that we have the #2.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Im kinda feeling like there are very few "brainers" in this draft.....while it's not terrible, it kind of feels like a dud draft overall to me.....which pretty much figures in a year that we have the #2.... I don't see how you see that at all. Both Goff and Wentz are very intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I don't see how you see that at all. Both Goff and Wentz are very intelligent. should that be in pink?....not sure.....if not, I was referring to no-brainer talent, not intelligence.... just seeing average talent and very few(if any) slam dunks at a lot of positions(most?).....usually there are a ton of guys you'd love to have at the top and this year, for me, it's just kind of ...meh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Ramsey might be the only elite prospect in this class. Good year to go QB at 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Ramsey might be the only elite prospect in this class. Yep.....Id agree with that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Mayock moved Wentz ahead of Goff in his 2.0 position rankings: http://on.nfl.com/1YuUwKG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 There's something I noticed about Goff. His interviews, he seems to be very serious. Doesn't smile or laugh much, I think it is. Wentz seems to smile a lot, laugh easy - and he's an outdoorsman. He can go fishing with Joe Thomas. Okay, that's my deciding factor of deciding factors. Camp Wentz is reinforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 There's something I noticed about Goff. His interviews, he seems to be very serious. Doesn't smile or laugh much, I think it is. Wentz seems to smile a lot, laugh easy - and he's an outdoorsman. He can go fishing with Joe Thomas. Okay, that's my deciding factor of deciding factors. Camp Wentz is reinforced. Yeah, but can he roll a hot pair of dice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Improved NFL.com draft profile grade - 6.51. He's now only slightly behind Goff's 6.57. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Improved NFL.com draft profile grade - 6.51. He's now only slightly behind Goff's 6.57. Mayock has him at 1. I trust him over Lance Zierlein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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