BrownsKidd Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I guess it really doesn't matter just a hobby for me just was kind of wondering how someone with more expertise would handle a song with different guitar parts. Lots of examples I'll post tonight Thanks guys seriously. Check out youtube for examples and covers. Covers don't exactly require an exact replication of the song. If you can nail the rhythmic pattern of the song and hit the chord changes, you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Thanks man. It really doesn't matter anyway I'm just playing by myself but just wondered how ya all tackled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 from my experience, it's a big plus to play the right chords... and sing like Bob Dylan, Charlie Pride, and Louis Armstrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thanks man. It really doesn't matter anyway I'm just playing by myself but just wondered how ya all tackled it. Stuart Your question didn't make sense. You play the prominent part, the part that most identifies with the song. Its also possible that you think there are two guitar parts being played when in fact the player is playing chords while at the same time adding embellishments, grace notes, riffs etc. If you plan to entertain with just you and your guitar, most people are more impressed if you can imitate the original recording, because its what they recognize, unless you're playing at a jazz club where improvisation and playing the song your way is what the audience is looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 StuartYour question didn't make sense. You play the prominent part, the part that most identifies with the song.Its also possible that you think there are two guitar parts being played when in fact the player is playing chords while at the same time adding embellishments, grace notes, riffs etc.If you plan to entertain with just you and your guitar, most people are more impressed if you can imitate the original recording, because its what they recognize, unless you're playing at a jazz club where improvisation and playing the song your way is what the audience is looking for.Yes the question does make sense. You like to argue. What key is "long way to the top" in? Just an example of the original recording being over dubbed then played a half step down. It's a quandary in some songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I would say the long and winding road is in the key of D because that's where it resolves. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I would say the long and winding road is in the key of D because that's where it resolves. WSS Well seriously Steve when you play along with reel to reel tape you have to tune down a half step. Same with cassette. When acdc recorded they overdubbed. See the confusion? If you are stacking tracks its a quandary. Back in that time period there was a lot of live recording as you probably know. Some play the song I was talking about in different keys but as I was saying also...it really doesn't matter I'm not a pro and don't play out just wanted to know how other trained musicians tackle it. There are other songs I'm interested in too but "long way to the top" was a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Keep in mind that it's not uncommon for a producer to speed up the master tape for the final take. It tightens it up a little bit. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Thanks VK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 VK that question is from the Bat out of Hell excerpt. I personally don't like Fender anything except I did have a London Reverb amp back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Most likely it was the Telecaster. Strats have been a R&R staple for many years. The Tele is the choice of Country players. It is more challenging than a Strat or a Les Paul. The larger neck radius (think the curve of the surface of the earth versus that of The sun) allows more freedom for traditional technique players (Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai) who rely less on tricks and more on skill. It limits however a lot of the cheap tricks that Les Paul and Strat Players can get away with for a variety of reasons. Strats, with a 25.5 scale length have 3 pick ups and a vibrato bar, and a comfortable neck radius. Les Pauls have a shorter scale 24.75, use longer sustaining humbucker pick ups and allow for short cuts and tricks. Guys like Santana, can make some great tone, while being short on technical skill. TMI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Personal taste is personal taste. The reason Fat loaf didn't like Teles is because country guys played them. I don't like a lot of Fender Amps, although for pure clean tone the Vibrolux and Bassman 4 x 10" with the channels jumped are hard to beat. Especially if you like fingerstyle jazz, Chet or Wes Montgomery styles, which I happen to play a lot of. For rocking out, for me the Hi-Watt Classic 50 with a slant front 4 x 12 is the best amp I have ever owned. I'll agree on the Hi Watt. I had one at one time. It was an A amp and solid state. I like solid state amps better than the tube amps. A lot of peeps would disagree on my taste but I like clean power and let my effects to work at their best. I'm really picky with my effects as well. As for guitars I've owned some strats but as I grew older I learned about my own tone and I like a guitar with a very passive humbucker at the bridge and something not so at the neck. Anyway ya love Hi Watt but my choice is Randall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I always loved the Sound Pete Townshend and RATT got out of theyre HiWatt amps.. they are known for having a great HOT searing guitar sound.. Crunch and choppy sounding but not overly thin..but it was a great amp to use. They cut well in the mix.. The clean sound.. not so great.. Fender Black face the 65's and fender bassmans doit for Me clean tone wise. And the old Supro's would be another.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I never enjoyed an amp more than my Hi-Watt, the bad part about it was that the clean channel was noisy. I was playing in a band that did rock, polkas, jazz, country, and pop. When I put an arch top, or needed clean chords for the polka stuff, since we didn't play that stuff loudly, the hiss was almost unbearable. I wound up using a noise gate, which always blows when you play live. Still, I wish I never sold it. For me, nothing ever touched the Bassman 4 x 10 for a clean tone....unbelievable tight bottom end. Once I made a REALLY dumb choice and purchased a Peavey Classic 50 w a 4 x 10 cabinet (piggy back style) because I thought I could sacrifice the clean sound for the peaveys channel switching. That Peavey amp sounded nice cranked up and distorted, but if you didn't play it loud, it was shit. My objection to Fenders is that they don't sound thick at low volumes. Even the blues JR....30 watts? Its too fucking loud to get nice tone. I have a Crate V18 Class A tube amp now, and it is one of the nicest sounding amps I ever had. No channel swiching but I can get it right on the verge of crunch, back off the pickup volume just a twat hair and keep it clean. Punch in the humbucker and it crunches. Kick in an overdrive pedal and boom, I am covered. 18 watts however is borderline loud for anything over 100 people. Try the new Fender ML series that came out last year . Theyre a great platform for pedals.. and has a nice round tone.. it's voiced to give the bridge pickup a rounder tone http://www2.fender.com/experience/fender-tone/michael-landau-demos-new-hot-rod-deville-212-ml/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 Very cool Axe. Woos $600 bucks for one of those what a bargain. Hey is this one of the effects you have? If so buying this did it replace other effects or do you just use it for amp simulation? Give us a review man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 I own one.. It does Amp sims, Cab sims (you can load your own) as well, and effects.. It's a dual use pedal. Live and studio. It's not far from my Fractal Audio AxeFx for a lot cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 Does it have factory presets you can tweak into your own like a multi processer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 Yes, it does. And plenty of slots for your own patches. There are also libraries popping up that others have built. I am not tracking with it yet because we're too far down the road on tracking this cd to change sound now. But I will in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 Yes, it does. And plenty of slots for your own patches. There are also libraries popping up that others have built. I am not tracking with it yet because we're too far down the road on tracking this cd to change sound now. But I will in the future.With the recording aspect of it I've only worked with a Boss Processer with my Boss four track. Different guitars including acoustics. Other than that you will lose me. Amateur I is. I was reading on it I guess I'd have to check it out. Since its guitar player friendly I'd guess the bank switching is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well, if you grab one you'll have to shoot me an email addy and I'll send more patches than you'll know what to do with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Well, if you grab one you'll have to shoot me an email addy and I'll send more patches than you'll know what to do with If I had the dough to spend on it I would. In the distant future I can see me getting one and if I do I'll take you up on the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I own one.. It does Amp sims, Cab sims (you can load your own) as well, and effects.. It's a dual use pedal. Live and studio. It's not far from my Fractal Audio AxeFx for a lot cheaper. I hate amp simulation.. It just cant reproduce The dynamic nuances like Tube Amps can...Tube amps are touch sensitive to your Fingers.. While Digital and SS are NOT!.. your pretty much stuck with a gnatty processed shit guitar sound and tone.. Yuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Very cool Axe. Woos $600 bucks for one of those what a bargain. Hey is this one of the effects you have? If so buying this did it replace other effects or do you just use it for amp simulation? Give us a review man. Dont waste your money/./ Puhleeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Whatever Nickers I like Solid State amps. Lol. I'm just a poor boy so I'd have to sit with it before making a $600 purchase. After listening to Axe he has my integrity. I just wish my ol lady would let me buy it. There I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Well.. I bought a Marshall MA 50 head for 300.00 bucks on Amazon.. Everyone that plays through it wants it.. It's by far the best sounding Amp I've owned. I lucked out but.. If you look hard.. and are patient.. you can find some gems.. Heres a short demo I did on Youtube.. just shows you that you dont need to spend a fortune to get a great guitar sound..But the reality is.. you can have the best equipment in the world and still sound like shit..Your tone starts in your mind,, By what your ears hear and take in.. and the tone in your fingers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 It's a poor Craftsman that blames his tools. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted July 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Whatever Lol. I make no excuses I prefer the loud chunk sound of a Solid State amp. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Whatever Lol. I make no excuses I prefer the loud chunk sound of a Solid State amp. Just saying. and I prefer the loud chunk of a Mesa Boogie Dual rec with 6L6 tubes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Larry Carlton explains it better than I ever could.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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