Trump and Hitlery - "Unmitagated Disaster"

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[gftChris]

That actually makes trump look more like a human.

[calfoxwc]

by Thomas Sowell

USA – -(Ammoland.com)- Republican party leaders may have worried that

Donald Trump would not only lose the general election for the presidency,

but would so poison the image of the party as to cause Republican

candidates for Congress and for state and local offices to also lose.

Now they seem to be trying to patch things up, in order to present an

image of unity before the general elections this fall.

Regardless of how that attempt at patching up an image turns out,

Trump’s candidacy could be not only a current political setback for

Republicans, but an enduring affliction in future elections.

For decades after Republican President Herbert Hoover was demonized

because the Great Depression of the 1930s began on his watch, Democrats

warned repeatedly, in a series of later presidential elections,

that a vote for the Republican candidate was a vote to return to the

days of Herbert Hoover.

It was 20 years before another Republican was elected president. As late as the 1980s,

President Ronald Reagan was called by the Democrats’ Speaker of the House, “Hoover with a smile.”

When a high official of the Reagan administration appeared before Congress to explain the

administration’s policy, a Democratic Senator said, “That’s Hoover talk, man!”

Actually, it was a policy proposal the opposite of that of the Hoover administration, but

who in politics worries about the truth? The point is that Hoover was still being used as

a bogeyman, more than 40 years after he left office, and nearly two decades after he was

dead. Trump’s image could easily play a very similar role.

The political damage of Donald Trump to the Republican party is completely overshadowed

by the damage he can do to the country and to the world, with his unending reckless and

irresponsible statements. Just this week, Trump blithely remarked that South Korea should

be left to its own defenses.

Whatever the merits or demerits of that as a policy, announcing it to the whole world in

advance risks encouraging North Korea to invade South Korea — as it did back in 1950,

after careless words by a high American official left the impression that South Korea

was not included in the American defense perimeter against the Communists in the Pacific.

The old World War II phrase — “loose lips sink ships” — applies on land as well as on

the water. And no one has looser lips than Donald Trump, who repeatedly spouts whatever

half-baked idea pops into his head. A man in his 60s has life-long habits that are not

likely to change. Age brings habits, even if it does not bring maturity.

Nations around the world risk their own survival when they ally themselves with the

United States in the fight against international terrorists — and we need their

cooperation in that fight, in order to track down hidden terrorists and the hidden

money that finances them.

If nations cannot have confidence in American commitments and American leadership,

we are not likely to get their cooperation. And the stakes are life and death.

What the Republican establishment once feared most — that Trump would lose the

nomination and run on a third party — now seems to be a danger that has passed.

But a far larger danger to something far more important, American society, is that

Trump could be elected President of the United States.

Those who talk about “the will of the people” need to know that neither Donald Trump

nor Hillary Clinton represents the will of the people. Polls repeatedly show these

two with the highest negative reactions of any of the candidates in either party. A

majority of the people polled have negative reactions to each.

Hillary Clinton’s much-vaunted “experience” has been an experience in carrying out a

policy that has failed disastrously from the Middle East to Ukraine to North Korea.

We don’t need more of that kind of experience.

What was once feared most by the Republican establishment — a third party candidate

for President — may represent the only slim chance for saving this country from a

catastrophic administration in an age of proliferating nuclear weapons.

If a third party candidate could divide the vote enough to prevent anyone from

getting an electoral college majority, that would throw the election into the

House of Representatives, where any semblance of sanity could produce a better

president than these two.

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as well as a prolific author including Black Rednecks And White Liberals. His

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[hoorta]

"Those who talk about “the will of the people” need to know that neither Donald Trump

nor Hillary Clinton represents the will of the people. Polls repeatedly show these

two with the highest negative reactions of any of the candidates in either party. A

majority of the people polled have negative reactions to each."

^^^^^^^^^ Amen.

From today's Dayton Daily News- another reason The Donald scares me....... The guy is a loose cannon spewing stuff.

Trump’s plan for recovery denounced as ‘insane idea’

Likely GOP nominee would pay debt holders less than full value.

Associated Press

WASHINGTON — In the event that the U.S. economy crashed, Donald Trump has floated a recovery plan based on his own experience with corporate bankruptcy: Pay America’s creditors less than full value on the U.S. Treasurys they hold. Experts see it as a reckless idea that would send interest rates soaring, derail economic growth and undermine confidence in the world’s most trusted financial asset. The presumptive Republican presidential nominee suggested in a phone interview Thursday with CNBC that he would stimulate growth through borrowing. If trouble arose, he added, he could get investors to accept reduced payments for their Treasury holdings. Trump later clarified that comment to say he would offer to buy the bonds back at a discount from investors in hopes of refinancing them at lower rates. Such a move, never before attempted by the U.S. government, would likely spook investors whose trust in Treasury notes keeps global financial markets operating. The need to refinance would likely cause interest rates to spike as investors demanded a greater return for the perceived risks of non-payment. More tax dollars would have to go toward repaying the debt. Many investors would shift their money elsewhere. And the economy could endure a traumatic blow. “It seems Trump is planning to try to run the country like one of his failed business ventures, and that does not bode well,” said Megan Greene, chief economist at Manulife. The move would also end a policy introduced during the presidency of George Washington to pay full face value on the debts incurred by the country. “Defaulting on our debt would cause creditors to rightly question the ‘full faith’ commitment we make,” said Tony Fratto, a former Treasury Department official in George W. Bush’s administration. “This isn’t a serious idea — it’s an insane idea,” he said. Trump has touted his acumen for restructuring four of his companies under bankruptcy laws. When Trump Hotels & Casinos finished a 2004 bankruptcy reorganization, it cut $500 million off $1.8 billion in debt and reduced the interest rate to 8 percent from 15 percent. But countries function differently from businesses. Interest rates would spike if a government refused to pay what it owed as investors priced in the risk of default and became resistant toward lending. “It would make a bad situation worse and increase U.S. borrowing costs on its debt going forward because we would have lost our credit rating,” said Chad Stone, chief economist at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The yield on a 10-year Treasury note is about 1.8 percent, a figure that would shoot up if Trump pursued this strategy. This would cause debt payments to climb at a precarious moment for the federal budget when Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid costs will likely increase the need to borrow. “There is no upside,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, an economist and president of the conservative American Action Forum. “It’s a false hope.”

[calfoxwc]

If Trump doesn't quit saying stupid stuff, some people may entertain the idea

that Higgardly would at least fail as pres, and most folks would finally

blame the dems.

 

But that is impossible. Trump is a clusterfook, but higgardly is worst on all counts. It's a disgrace.

[bbedward]

Trump is great, he's going to stop the TPP - the rest is good too, but the TPP is the #1 priority.

 

If the TPP is passed then the US will become a third world country and we'll never recover.

[Bob806]

 

by Thomas Sowell

USA – -(Ammoland.com)- Republican party leaders may have worried that

Donald Trump would not only lose the general election for the presidency,

but would so poison the image of the party as to cause Republican

candidates for Congress and for state and local offices to also lose.

Now they seem to be trying to patch things up, in order to present an

image of unity before the general elections this fall.

 

Mitt Romney blew that perceived image a little more than a month ago. Honestly, I was ready to vote R until he opened his big "establishment mouth."

 

Hillary isn't getting my vote either. This situation sucks.

[Westside Steve]

That's why the media sucks and the voters suck and the elections suck. A guy tells the truth the idiot voters get pissed off. He bends over and goes along with the opposition the same voters get pissed off.

 

47% on the Dole that don't pay taxes are Democrat constituents. Almost all and there's nothing conservatives can do to win them over. Or fake conservatives or pseudo conservatives or whatever you want to call them.

 

I am kind of surprised that the unions are having such a tough time bailing on the Democrat Partys pants when Trump is the only one that's talked about sending jobs overseas and illegals doing what should be union labor for peanuts.

 

WSS

[MLD Woody]

Trump is great, he's going to stop the TPP - the rest is good too, but the TPP is the #1 priority.

 

If the TPP is passed then the US will become a third world country and we'll never recover.

 

You really don't quit on your TPP kick, huh?

[MLD Woody]

That's why the media sucks and the voters suck and the elections suck. A guy tells the truth the idiot voters get pissed off. He bends over and goes along with the opposition the same voters get pissed off.

 

47% on the Dole that don't pay taxes are Democrat constituents. Almost all and there's nothing conservatives can do to win them over. Or fake conservatives or pseudo conservatives or whatever you want to call them.

 

I am kind of surprised that the unions are having such a tough time bailing on the Democrat Partys pants when Trump is the only one that's talked about sending jobs overseas and illegals doing what should be union labor for peanuts.

 

WSS

"that's why everything sucks, because democrats suck"

[bbedward]

You really don't quit on your TPP kick, huh?

It's the biggest issue of this election, so no.

 

People don't wanna vote for Trump because they don't think he acts presidential, meanwhile Hillary will destroy our country as we know it.

 

It's not the typical fear mongering about guns the right gets worked up about - it's a real issue that everybody avoids talking about.

 

NAFTA has been a disaster, the TPP will be far worse.

[MLD Woody]

Your posts are steering towards cal level fear mongering, IMO. Along with your love of Trump.

 

I'm pretty sure Vapor just supports him for the he'll of it, and the memes.

 

To each his own, and you may be right, that's just how I see it coming across recently.

[Bob806]

That's why the media sucks and the voters suck and the elections suck. A guy tells the truth the idiot voters get pissed off. He bends over and goes along with the opposition the same voters get pissed off.

 

47% on the Dole that don't pay taxes are Democrat constituents. Almost all and there's nothing conservatives can do to win them over. Or fake conservatives or pseudo conservatives or whatever you want to call them.

 

I am kind of surprised that the unions are having such a tough time bailing on the Democrat Partys pants when Trump is the only one that's talked about sending jobs overseas and illegals doing what should be union labor for peanuts.

 

WSS

WSS-

 

While you are correct on "the media sucks," I don't think the media photo shopped/video edited Romney's press conference, where he basically stated his disdain for all the primary results (at the time). To his credit, he's been silent lately, but that alone did more damage than good to his party. It was a gamble he and his cronies must have figured they had to take at the time, but that was out of line IMHO.

 

It has nothing to do with his 47% remark. It has everything to do with "how dare these people vote and approve of a non-politician."

[Westside Steve]

WSS-

 

While you are correct on "the media sucks," I don't think the media photo shopped/video edited Romney's press conference, where he basically stated his disdain for all the primary results (at the time). To his credit, he's been silent lately, but that alone did more damage than good to his party. It was a gamble he and his cronies must have figured they had to take at the time, but that was out of line IMHO.

 

It has nothing to do with his 47% remark. It has everything to do with "how dare these people vote and approve of a non-politician."

Then I would expect you could quot me a few examples of this outrage.

 

And I was a supporter of Mitt Romney but I'm very disappointed in his actions of late.

WSS

[bbedward]

Your posts are steering towards cal level fear mongering, IMO. Along with your love of Trump.

 

I'm pretty sure Vapor just supports him for the he'll of it, and the memes.

 

To each his own, and you may be right, that's just how I see it coming across recently.

Let me know what you think about the TPP after some research

 

That's one issue where Bernie and Trump agree on (along with trade plans in general)

[bbedward]

[MLD Woody]

Let me know what you think about the TPP after some research

 

That's one issue where Bernie and Trump agree on (along with trade plans in general)

 

Oh, I'm sure its a big deal. You're a smart guy, and we agree on most topics here. I probably agree with your stance.

 

 

Its just that 80% of your posts are about TPP and how great Trump is. I feel like your posts are devolving into Cal territory. Don't get too overzealous with Trump.

[bbedward]

 

Oh, I'm sure its a big deal. You're a smart guy, and we agree on most topics here. I probably agree with your stance.

 

 

Its just that 80% of your posts are about TPP and how great Trump is. I feel like your posts are devolving into Cal territory. Don't get too overzealous with Trump.

The removal of internet freedoms is what got me interested in the TPP to begin with (as a software tech guy), but there's several other problems with it like giving corporations power to make laws.

 

It's the biggest immediate issue of the 2016 election, and Trump is the only one to stop it - hence my support. If it passes, we're going to be in serious trouble for decades at the least (and I don't mean big serious trouble as in the transgender bathrooms, I mean real big serious trouble)

 

Many other policies of his, plus the dank memes, don't hurt though.

[StinkHole]

"that's why everything sucks, because democrats suck"

Stuart

 

Yep. If all you disappeared the country becomes great again.

[bbedward]

 

"Those who talk about the will of the people need to know that neither Donald Trump

nor Hillary Clinton represents the will of the people. Polls repeatedly show these

two with the highest negative reactions of any of the candidates in either party. A

majority of the people polled have negative reactions to each."

 

^^^^^^^^^ Amen.

 

From today's Dayton Daily News- another reason The Donald scares me....... The guy is a loose cannon spewing stuff.

 

 

Trumps plan for recovery denounced as insane idea

Likely GOP nominee would pay debt holders less than full value.

Associated Press WASHINGTON In the event that the U.S. economy crashed, Donald Trump has floated a recovery plan based on his own experience with corporate bankruptcy: Pay Americas creditors less than full value on the U.S. Treasurys they hold. Experts see it as a reckless idea that would send interest rates soaring, derail economic growth and undermine confidence in the worlds most trusted financial asset. The presumptive Republican presidential nominee suggested in a phone interview Thursday with CNBC that he would stimulate growth through borrowing. If trouble arose, he added, he could get investors to accept reduced payments for their Treasury holdings. Trump later clarified that comment to say he would offer to buy the bonds back at a discount from investors in hopes of refinancing them at lower rates. Such a move, never before attempted by the U.S. government, would likely spook investors whose trust in Treasury notes keeps global financial markets operating. The need to refinance would likely cause interest rates to spike as investors demanded a greater return for the perceived risks of non-payment. More tax dollars would have to go toward repaying the debt. Many investors would shift their money elsewhere. And the economy could endure a traumatic blow. It seems Trump is planning to try to run the country like one of his failed business ventures, and that does not bode well, said Megan Greene, chief economist at Manulife. The move would also end a policy introduced during the presidency of George Washington to pay full face value on the debts incurred by the country. Defaulting on our debt would cause creditors to rightly question the full faith commitment we make, said Tony Fratto, a former Treasury Department official in George W. Bushs administration. This isnt a serious idea its an insane idea, he said. Trump has touted his acumen for restructuring four of his companies under bankruptcy laws. When Trump Hotels & Casinos finished a 2004 bankruptcy reorganization, it cut $500 million off $1.8 billion in debt and reduced the interest rate to 8 percent from 15 percent. But countries function differently from businesses. Interest rates would spike if a government refused to pay what it owed as investors priced in the risk of default and became resistant toward lending. It would make a bad situation worse and increase U.S. borrowing costs on its debt going forward because we would have lost our credit rating, said Chad Stone, chief economist at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The yield on a 10-year Treasury note is about 1.8 percent, a figure that would shoot up if Trump pursued this strategy. This would cause debt payments to climb at a precarious moment for the federal budget when Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid costs will likely increase the need to borrow. There is no upside, said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, an economist and president of the conservative American Action Forum. Its a false hope.

 

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/05/07/donald-trumps-glorious-threat-to-default-on-the-national-debt-is-just-the-conventional-wisdom/#28568dc95308

 

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/05/07/donald-trumps-glorious-threat-to-default-on-the-national-debt-is-just-the-conventional-wisdom/#28568dc95308

 

 

Sure B- let's just become a third world county. Obviously- the United States has racked up more debt than it can ever realistically repay. The solution isn't giving creditors 50-80 cents on the dollar. With the dollar being one of the world reserve currencies- We go down, so does everything else. Think all those foreign governments (like China) that hold trillions of dollars of US debt are going to be happy if the USA welches paying off? I've said it for years- the only way out is hyperinflation- and it's not going to be pretty.

 

BTW, Paul Krugman is full of it.

[Westside Steve]

 

Sure B- let's just become a third world county. Obviously- the United States has racked up more debt than it can ever realistically repay. The solution isn't giving creditors 50-80 cents on the dollar. With the dollar being one of the world reserve currencies- We go down, so does everything else. Think all those foreign governments (like China) that hold trillions of dollars of US debt are going to be happy if the USA welches paying off? I've said it for years- the only way out is hyperinflation- and it's not going to be pretty.

 

BTW, Paul Krugman is full of it.

You believe that last sentence? I think that in the proper defensive scheme he can be very effective again.

WSS

[hoorta]

You believe that last sentence? I think that in the proper defensive scheme he can be very effective again.

WSS

 

You meant Paul Kruger? I meant Krugman the whacko economist, he of it doesn't matter how much debt the US racks up. .

[Westside Steve]

 

You meant Paul Kruger? I meant Krugman the whacko economist, he of it doesn't matter how much debt the US racks up. .

I was hoping the joke would have been a little bit clearer. Think of Ghoolie and Eric Heiden.

 

Yes Paul Krugman is a shill.

 

WSS

[bbedward]

[DieHardBrownsFan]

[calfoxwc]

[tiamat63]

I'll always laugh when anyone takes similar contexted quotes and draws parallels to Hitler.

 

I need a reliable car, Hitler obviously envision VolksWagon as the peoples car - I find them to be a good ride. Ergo, I must be supporting some type of Hitler image.

[jbluhm86]

[bbedward]

It's just a meme

 

Calling people Hitler and fascist is more often a tactic of the left, tbh. The right has other shitty smear tactics.

 

Though it's funny when people call Trump a fascist and then they block roads and create violence to deter people from hearing him speak.