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calfoxwc Grand Master

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Looking at the bigger picture, the liberals/socialists/etc are fighting every part of the

American culture status quo, to undermine it, argue against it, try to legally force

everything possible to be turned upside-down, inside-out and bass-ackwards.

 

They want to take it all apart, so THEY get to put it all back together in their

revoutionized way.

 

Which would be hell, and then the new way has to clamp down on anything

subversive, or anybody speaking out against them, and disarm everyone living

in hell...

 

yeah. obamao style. Chicago Way.

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North Carolina responded when liberal city council Charlotte passed an ordinance requiring all government and business bathrooms and showers to be open to all sexes. Notice the showers part.

 

"The Charlotte city council had no authority to enact its ordinance, much less threaten tens of thousands of businesses with fines and minor punishments if they didnt comply. They were threatening 23,000 businesses and nonprofits, including small mom and pop establishments, with fines and other minor punishments if they didnt conform to that policy. Such threats are tyrannical when it was known that the ordinance they were discussing was beyond their purview."

 

 

The Truth About North Carolinas Bathroom Bill

 

http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/09/the-truth-about-north-carolinas-bathroom-bill/

Yes that's true.

I think they were baited into overreaction when probably just making that ruling unconstitutional by state law would have worked.

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Sales of Playgirl magazine vs the thousands of men's magazines filled with naked pictures?

 

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That too. Fact remains: Transgender "Lesbian Female" is going to have wood in the female showers. But they're bigots if an erection in their "safe space" makes them uncomfortable, right?

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Looking at the bigger picture, the liberals/socialists/etc are fighting every part of the

American culture status quo, to undermine it, argue against it, try to legally force

everything possible to be turned upside-down, inside-out and bass-ackwards.

 

They want to take it all apart, so THEY get to put it all back together in their

revoutionized way.

 

Which would be hell, and then the new way has to clamp down on anything

subversive, or anybody speaking out against them, and disarm everyone living

in hell...

 

yeah. obamao style. Chicago Way.

 

Right, nothing should ever change. If it works for me personally, then its fine.

 

So no interracial marriages, no women voting, and hell, no free black people.

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Right, nothing should ever change. If it works for me personally, then its fine.

So no interracial marriages, no women voting, and hell, no free black people. Woody
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That's ONE. Our FREEDOMS must never be revoked. Our 2nd Amendment doesn't work for you,
because you don't like them. So it isn't fine.
The Constitution has nothing to say about interracial marriages. That's mud against the wall bs.
It's still real marriage. One more time... AGAIN.
You can ADD FREEDOMS. ADD FREED SLAVES. ADD WOMEN VOTING. You....can......not....take....Constitutional rights....away.
What kind of guarantee is able to be undone when liberals get a chance to do away with rights THEY don't like?
You defended taking away rights by referring to "times change"... and then you change the subject to reinforcing/clarifying rights.
Completely different subjects.
That's ONE.
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Or, you can take away my right to slaves, my right to alcohol, my right to retain all of my income, my right to run for a third term as president - it depends on your perspective, really.

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Are you saying we should rethink those three areas? Bold pronouncement there Woody.

;)

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He always struck me as a closet 18th-century cotton farm owner to be honest. His true colours were bound to come out sooner or later.

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Also, I'm curious as to what the constitution specifically says about marriage, as I can't seem to find anything - cal, can you point me in the right direction? Like, section 3, subsection D, paragraph 25 or whatever?

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not for me. I at least skimmed the whole thing to make sure it supported my rather common sense point.

seems to be behind a subscription wall and I don't fancy signing up (as I'm not a medical professional). Got the name of the article? Or just the abstract/authors?

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not for me. I at least skimmed the whole thing to make sure it supported my rather common sense point.

oh well in that case I can definitely read it and need no more information from you, thanks!

 

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Or, you can take away my right to slaves, my right to alcohol, my right to retain all of my income, my right to run for a third term as president - it depends on your perspective, really. Chris

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Sure. But on PRINCIPLE, no one can take away rights. That is WHY we have our Constitution.

The fundamental problem is, like the British in the colonies, and throughout history - any power who craves more

power, and wants to keep power - takes away rights of those they have power over.

 

Regardless of rep/"dem"/libertarian... socialist/communist. We have our freedoms written in granite.

 

Times have changed, big freaking deal. yeah, Bob Dylan sang that a long time ago, in the sixties I think.

But our guarantees of freedom do not. You can ADD freedoms. The idea that one "side" or another could

arbitrarily decide to take freedom(s) away as THEY see fit...is extremely dangerous. It must never be done.

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OK, can I add my freedom not to be one of the tens of thousands a year not being a victim of gun violence? I mean there's already freedom from the effects of tobacco in public places in plenty of states, freedom from excessive noise at 3am outside the house, seems like freedom to not be killed would be a sensible one to have.

 

As it happens, I'm not in favour of repealing the second amendment and I'll go in to that in more detail at some point soon (it revolves around the point that plenty of other places have guns and it's all good - it's just that some americans are inherently dickish).

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Right, nothing should ever change. If it works for me personally, then its fine.

 

So no interracial marriages, no women voting, and hell, no free black people. Woody

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That's ONE. Our FREEDOMS must never be revoked. Our 2nd Amendment doesn't work for you,

because you don't like them. So it isn't fine.

The Constitution has nothing to say about interracial marriages. That's mud against the wall bs.

It's still real marriage. One more time... AGAIN.

You can ADD FREEDOMS. ADD FREED SLAVES. ADD WOMEN VOTING. You....can......not....take....Constitutional rights....away.

What kind of guarantee is able to be undone when liberals get a chance to do away with rights THEY don't like?

You defended taking away rights by referring to "times change"... and then you change the subject to reinforcing/clarifying rights.

Completely different subjects.

That's ONE.

So your basic argument here is that we can change the constitution only if it adds "freedom" (though I really think you're just throwing the term "freedom" around as some sort of tea party buzzword).

 

Didn't Prohibition take away freedoms? And like Chris said, freeing the slaves removed your right to own a slaves.

 

I never said we need to revoke the 2nd amendment

 

Real marriage? Does allowing gay people to marry remove your freedom?

 

Does the 2nd amendment stipulate what it means by "arms"? Can I own a tank?

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If you need medical professionals to tell you something that Steve pretty handily summed up with his "Sales of Playgirl vs Thousands of men's nudie magazines" statement this should satisfy you. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/808430

Still asking me to log in.

 

The point about sales of various magazines isn't exactly cut and dry though - it's a lot more socially acceptable for a straight man to exhibit his sexuality than any other gender/sexuality combination. Women masturbate about as much as men generally, once they realise the dirty little secret is that it's not really dirty.

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What ur not getting cal is that ur side has zero problem coming out against rights they dont approve of Cleve

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not true at all - that's just an emotional knee jerkie. You slur a lot of stuff, but try backing that up with

explanation, and you will find out how dumb it is.

 

We just think Christians DO have rights, that the American people Do have rights to define

marriage as they see fit. Christians have a right to be moral and not be forced to suck up to immorality if they

don't want to. All sorts of perverts have rights, but their rights end at other peoples rights.

 

Unborn children have a RIGHT to life, liberty and the pursuit of their happiness without being ruthlessly and

horrifically murdered.

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"We just think Christians DO have rights" - sure, you can practise your religion same as anyone else; your rights do not extend to dictating what other people can and can't do though



"that the American people Do have rights to define marriage as they see fit" - and indeed they have. It's just not the definition you agree with and it's tearing you up.


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