OldBrownsFan Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 What percentage of the population is transgender? Less than one percent. So we to try and cater to the rights of the less then one percent and trample on the rights of the rest of the population? What about the majority rights of those who feel uncomfortable with a male in the showers with female girls? Why aren't the rights of the majority honored here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Especially since this society is setup to give alot of extra benefits to married people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 OK, can I add my freedom not to be one of the tens of thousands a year not being a victim of gun violence? I mean there's already freedom from the effects of tobacco in public places in plenty of states, freedom from excessive noise at 3am outside the house, seems like freedom to not be killed would be a sensible one to have. As it happens, I'm not in favour of repealing the second amendment and I'll go in to that in more detail at some point soon (it revolves around the point that plenty of other places have guns and it's all good - it's just that some americans are inherently dickish). Chris ******************************************************* Well, let's see. You can if you want to, except don't you live in England? As in, you Brits never britished up and demanded your own Constitution? You better hope you never have a socialist/communist fascist Queen. You pass noise laws, pass tobacco laws. pass laws against crime/armed crime. It has nothing to do with Constitutional guarantees of Rights to HAVE and keep forever. In conclusion - you do not have the right to deny other people their Rights, so you can be free from them having their Rights. Gun violence has nothing to do with our 2nd Amendment. It has to do with crime. Outlaw crime and the criminal use of weapons. Then enforce them. Violence using weapons has nothing to with knife, rope, gun, car, etc etc etc manufacturers. Has nothing to do with the NRA, me,nor anybody else who owns a gun or guns. It's just another political slur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 "We just think Christians DO have rights" - sure, you can practise your religion same as anyone else; your rights do not extend to dictating what other people can and can't do though "that the American people Do have rights to define marriage as they see fit" - and indeed they have. It's just not the definition you agree with and it's tearing you up. Chris *********************************************** Sure, so what? I can practice my religion, and you can STFU and not try to force me to bake you a perverted gay phony "wedding" cake. And the American people did not decide gay marriage - Obamao and his corrupt depts and the activist COURTS did. And the American people did not decide the transperverts into other sex's bathrooms and lockerrooms... Obamao and his corrupt depts and the COURTS did. Get your facts straight, or stop posting nonsense. You are just emotionally and irrationally knee jerking now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Still asking me to log in. Â The point about sales of various magazines isn't exactly cut and dry though - it's a lot more socially acceptable for a straight man to exhibit his sexuality than any other gender/sexuality combination. Women masturbate about as much as men generally, once they realise the dirty little secret is that it's not really dirty. Either you suck or england does. Either way I am able to read 5 pages of scientific study without logging in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Well, my Wonderful Cute Wife just had an idea, ...was watching the news and they were discussing Heil Obamao's decree to demand transperverts into into opposite sexes' bathrooms and lockerrooms... Â she said... to close all the bathrooms, and have porta-potties lined up in the hallways, and whoever wants to use one, can use one. Â Of course, a lot of girls will be waiting in long lines and won't get to class. Â But discrimination is good, as long as it's not against the minority base of the liberal/socialist/assholish "democratic" party. Â btw, a lot of boys and girls will stop taking showers altogether, cancel all gym classes, and sports, Â home schooling is going to skyrocket. It's a socialist fringe revolution at every possible point, at any cost now, seems like to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 No american people have decided we dont give a fuck about gays marrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 So your basic argument here is that we can change the constitution only if it adds "freedom" (though I really think you're just throwing the term "freedom" around as some sort of tea party buzzword).  Didn't Prohibition take away freedoms? And like Chris said, freeing the slaves removed your right to own a slaves.  I never said we need to revoke the 2nd amendment  Real marriage? Does allowing gay people to marry remove your freedom?  Does the 2nd amendment stipulate what it means by "arms"? Can I own a tank? I'm still curious in your response to this Cal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 What percentage of the population is transgender? Less than one percent. So we to try and cater to the rights of the less then one percent and trample on the rights of the rest of the population? What about the majority rights of those who feel uncomfortable with a male in the showers with female girls? Why aren't the rights of the majority honored here? Cater is a strong word Trample is a strong word  In ergonomic design, when creating machinery or tooling or whatever for plants, you need it to work for a wide range of the population. The very short or very tall (small population) need to be able to use your machine.   Not to mention its not what that small group wants, it's what that percentage of the entire public wants. Ex, gays are a minority, but the majority support letting them marry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 OK, can I add my freedom not to be one of the tens of thousands a year not being a victim of gun violence? I mean there's already freedom from the effects of tobacco in public places in plenty of states, freedom from excessive noise at 3am outside the house, seems like freedom to not be killed would be a sensible one to have. As it happens, I'm not in favour of repealing the second amendment and I'll go in to that in more detail at some point soon (it revolves around the point that plenty of other places have guns and it's all good - it's just that some americans are inherently dickish). Chris ******************************************************* Well, let's see. You can if you want to, except don't you live in England? As in, you Brits never britished up and demanded your own Constitution? You better hope you never have a socialist/communist fascist Queen. You pass noise laws, pass tobacco laws. pass laws against crime/armed crime. It has nothing to do with Constitutional guarantees of Rights to HAVE and keep forever. In conclusion - you do not have the right to deny other people their Rights, so you can be free from them having their Rights. Gun violence has nothing to do with our 2nd Amendment. It has to do with crime. Outlaw crime and the criminal use of weapons. Then enforce them. Violence using weapons has nothing to with knife, rope, gun, car, etc etc etc manufacturers. Has nothing to do with the NRA, me,nor anybody else who owns a gun or guns. It's just another political slur. Â You might want to give your definition of a"right". That might clear up some confusion going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 So your basic argument here is that we can change the constitution only if it adds "freedom" (though I really think you're just throwing the term "freedom" around as some sort of tea party buzzword). Didn't Prohibition take away freedoms? And like Chris said, freeing the slaves removed your right to own a slaves.I never said we need to revoke the 2nd amendmentReal marriage? Does allowing gay people to marry remove your freedom?Does the 2nd amendment stipulate what it means by "arms"? Can I own a tank? *************************************************************************************** Didn't see it. Yes, The Constitution is a GUARANTOR of our basic freedoms, written in stone. You feel I just throw the term around, but you have no idea how fervently I revere our freedom. Learn some history - American history will do. Â Prohibition was a mistake - it tried to Constitutionalize the right to NOT allow something. That was stupid, not what the Constitution is. You just prove my point for me, by bringing it up. Â Freeing the slaves GUARANTEED that they have their freedoms INTACT. There is no moral grounds to guarantee that others have the right to enslave others, and deny them their rights and freedoms - in this case - you do not have the right to oppress other's and deny them their freedom. There was never a right to own slaves, regardless of the legalities at the time. Â I never said you did say "revoke the 2nd Amendment". You have a dim view of it, and your rash statements on the issue infer it. Â Yes, the courts forcing Americans to allow the perverted, politically oriented redefinition of the phrase "Real Marriage" denies the American people to define important institutions in Society. Let gays develop their own. Civil unions. Make it the exact same legal status. Nobody cares. Oh, but that doesn't fight the rest of American to undermine who we are. Who we are must change, not be added to. Â Call it "hookiebookie" for all anybody cares. But this is the minority imposing it's will/offending on purpose on the majority. There are a lot of Americans who believe in "live and let live". The trouble now is, the left wants to be the decider of "live" and they want to coerce the majority to "not live". The activists have gotten to the point of "we now want the political power to make everybody else kiss our asses". Â They can go to hell in the long run. There will be a huge bounce back. Â the 2nd Amendment is not unlimited. Please try to read up and answer your own questions. Even Justice Scalia was adamant about that. The NRA understands that. Â Nobody in America, I think, believes we should have a right to a nuclear weapon in our homes. That's stupid. yes, you can own a tank. The barrel can't be working, maybe. Â It's nonsense to talk about tanks and nukes etc. Nobody is saying that. That's a sad excuse by liberals to warrant some kind of further control over our 2nd Amendment. And dynamite is controlled. You can get dynamite - but you have to have a license to procure it and use it. Â In conclusion, just because liberals emotionally want to make outrageous analogies, they are outrageous analogies whether or not the liberals want to admit it. Â But do go ahead, Woody, and feel that I should not be allowed to have an AR-15, my pistol, or a semi-auto .22, or a slingshot...because I am not be allowed to own a nuke or an armed tank, or an armed jet fighter. Â BTW, ALL FIFTY STATES have ccw laws allowing it now. I don't think anybody thinks they can conceal carry a tank or a nuke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 So you're saying tanks and nukes are restricted to open carry states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 thank you for another "contribution" to a serious answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 And that kid and family are going to have a public legal battle to prove that he wishes he was a girl? For three mill, people would battle to prove they identify as whatever the hell they have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 People having *sex*? WTF?! What has this world come to. When I was a kid, people didn't have sex, babies just arrived by stork mail, the regular way. You don't have kids by shoving it in some guys ass..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 What ur not getting cal is that ur side has zero problem coming out against rights they dont approve of Um... The rights of one person shall not infringe upon the rights of another person. Privacy is a guaranteed right. Being a sick mentally ill fuck is not a right nor does it grant you special rights. Transperverts want special rights that infringe upon the rights of everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Exactly. Furthermore, making girls use bathrooms and lockerrooms that biological boys can also use... Â is sexual abuse, ...seems that sexual abuse is a good thing to liberals - given that bill clinton's rapes, and assualts, etc... Â were ignored or laughed at. Â I asked our old friend's daughter, an "adopted niece".. about it today. She said they would never use those bathrooms no matter what, it was gross. Â It's more about the left gaining more and more authority and control over every aspect of peoples' lives. Bathroom privacy, moral stances, smart meters in peoples' homes, the list gets longer all the time. Â http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/forcing-girls-to-change-in-the-same-room-as-boys-is-sexual-abuse/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 It's the "unmoral compassing" of America's youth, and Christian influence and practice. Â Undoing everything that we are, what we believe, so they can own total control. Â Headed for big, serious trouble sooner and faster. Â It's financial blackmail by the ObaMao mafia. Â http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/05/13/we-will-not-be-blackmailed-conservatives-slam-obama-admin-after-transgender-bathroom-directive-to-public-schools/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 This one was a boner by obama. This one needed to be introduced in steps. The potential for abuse is staggering, we are the most churlish and immature culture going today and possibly of all time. No way this doesnt end badly and not because it isnt a good idea to accomodate transgendered people. In the end this will do more harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 You don't have kids by shoving it in some guys ass..... Â Really? Than im all out of ideas how you spawned in this realm. i thought some homo farted a load out some years back and out you came Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Really? Than im all out of ideas how you spawned in this realm. i thought some homo farted a load out some years back and out you came I think you're the spawn of a shit/cum load in some fags ass. A real miracle shit baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I think you're the spawn of a shit/cum load in some fags ass. A real miracle shit baby. Couldn't come up with your own material? No good at this? I mean if any of us started out as a dollop of jizzm dripping from a used gaping bath house hoore.....its you. But if that's not possible than we need to drill down further into how you came to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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