DKAllDay Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/5iatls/todd_mcshays_2017_nfl_mock_draft_10/?client=safari Have us taking Allen #1 and Takkarist McKinley(never heard of him, is he any good?) a LB from UCLA. Above is a link to the whole draft Interesting is first QB off the board is Trubisky to the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Cooper? Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKAllDay Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Cooper? Allen. Fixed. Got the two Alabama lineman mixed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 McKinley is a one year starter at ucla lol. Pretty early draft in my opinion very scattered i can see that draft changing ALOT before april. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/5iatls/todd_mcshays_2017_nfl_mock_draft_10/?client=safari Have us taking Allen #1 and Takkarist McKinley(never heard of him, is he any good?) a LB from UCLA. Above is a link to the whole draft Interesting is first QB off the board is Trubisky to the Chiefs. All the more reason "Mock McShay". If he thinks no QB is going until the 20s, he has not been paying much attention to NFL drafts recently. I say 2 will go in the Top Ten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Don't overthink it. If you're taking a pure LB take Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I guess everyone missed that first paragraph or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 All the more reason "Mock McShay". If he thinks no QB is going until the 20s, he has not been paying much attention to NFL drafts recently. I say 2 will go in the Top Ten... Yep. Todd McShay hasn't been paying attention to the NFL draft. You got him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Don't overthink it. If you're taking a pure LB take Foster. Agree... I've seen McKinley a couple times this year and he is a damn good prospect, but he is not a tone setter. Got me thinking about the comment someone made the other day that Garrett lacks "the nasty" many DL exhibit. An Allen/Foster 1st round certainly brings that in abundance. I like it. A few more Crimson types and we can nickname our D "BAMA North"... And Kizer is still there at #33... Overall McShay must really think highly of the 2017 DB class... 7 in total... 4 of the top 8 depending how you count Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 The first QB off the board at #30?? McShay has lost his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Agree... I've seen McKinley a couple times this year and he is a damn good prospect, but he is not a tone setter. Got me thinking about the comment someone made the other day that Garrett lacks "the nasty" many DL exhibit. An Allen/Foster 1st round certainly brings that in abundance. I like it. A few more Crimson types and we can nickname our D "BAMA North"... And Kizer is still there at #33... Overall McShay must really think highly of the 2017 DB class... 7 in total... 4 of the top 8 depending how you count Peppers. Did you read the comments Tour? That mock is 80% garbage. "How in the fuck does he have the Chiefs being the first team to take a QB. I don't see how the Browns pass on Trubisky if he's there at the Eagles pick." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 X's 3 on Foster. I got to watch them both and UCLA's guy is just not in the same league with Foster. I'd be elated if he is still there for our 2nd pick. Same applies for Tim Williams if Foster is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 he has us taking allen over garrett? lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 he has us taking allen over garrett? lolz Is it that funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Did you read the comments Tour? That mock is 80% garbage. "How in the fuck does he have the Chiefs being the first team to take a QB. I don't see how the Browns pass on Trubisky if he's there at the Eagles pick." Well if a commenter on Reddit said it, it must obviously be true. I guess that's a slight step ahead of asking a homeless guy. Progress fellas, progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Agree... I've seen McKinley a couple times this year and he is a damn good prospect, but he is not a tone setter. Got me thinking about the comment someone made the other day that Garrett lacks "the nasty" many DL exhibit. An Allen/Foster 1st round certainly brings that in abundance. I like it. A few more Crimson types and we can nickname our D "BAMA North"... And Kizer is still there at #33... Overall McShay must really think highly of the 2017 DB class... 7 in total... 4 of the top 8 depending how you count Peppers. That was me. We have a few BAs on our defense attitude-wise. Garrett is not one. Look up Justin Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 he has us taking allen over garrett? lolz Not really that funny. Allen is a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 looks more like a Todd straight "talent big board" with no position concerns..Not a NFL ready QB imo. but it's your 1st rounder to screw it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Overall McShay must really think highly of the 2017 DB class... 7 in total... 4 of the top 8 depending how you count Peppers. A Passing league has caused a DB draft. some good ones. but as good as last season? Dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 A Passing league has caused a DB draft. some good ones. but as good as last season? Dunno I don't know about that. A DB heavy draft class has produced a DB heavy draft. Maybe you could say that college is producing better QBs since the college game is more pass happy than a smoke circle. You've also got a lot of pass rushers in this draft - it's just a D heavy draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised if all three quarterbacks went in the first round. Most quarterbacks taken in the first round are disappointments but they do seem irresistible. Like taking a hit on a 20. Hey there are four aces in the deck right? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I've seen multiple drafts having us taking Allen over Garrett, and I'd be fine with hit. Allen probably fits what we do and need better than Garrett...at least out of the box. Garrett would have to be fit into our scheme, whereas Allen comes in and immediately does what he did in college. He penetrates like a porn star, is stout against the run, and basically causes trouble all of the time. Putting him next to Shelton would probably be a handful. But the thing with Garrett is he could compliment Ogbah very well. Ogbah has lost out on multiple sacks when the opposing QB just drifts away from him in the pocket and fires the ball down field, but if there is opposing pressure...the QB can't really go anywhere. I think many fans are fine with either Garrett or Allen, but the one thing that virtually EVERY person I've talked is...DO NOT TRADE DOWN. That's the consensus I keep hearing from almost everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 McShay is to evaluation as Lombardi is to acquisition........translation: He's a DUMBASS!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I've seen multiple drafts having us taking Allen over Garrett, and I'd be fine with hit. Allen probably fits what we do and need better than Garrett...at least out of the box. Garrett would have to be fit into our scheme, whereas Allen comes in and immediately does what he did in college. He penetrates like a porn star, is stout against the run, and basically causes trouble all of the time. Putting him next to Shelton would probably be a handful. But the thing with Garrett is he could compliment Ogbah very well. Ogbah has lost out on multiple sacks when the opposing QB just drifts away from him in the pocket and fires the ball down field, but if there is opposing pressure...the QB can't really go anywhere. I think many fans are fine with either Garrett or Allen, but the one thing that virtually EVERY person I've talked is...DO NOT TRADE DOWN. That's the consensus I keep hearing from almost everyone. If everyone's fine with either Garrett or Allen, would everyone object to moving down one spot, picking up SF's second or third round pick, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I think that would be the lone trade many people would be happy with. Like, if San Fran is absolutely in love with a guy and wants to MAKE SURE they get him, I could see us doing that. Crazy things tend to happen on draft day, and the one thing I DON'T want to see happen is us give in to temptation. There's probably going to be some insane offers for Garrett, Allen, or a QB. From a value standpoint, it might be difficult to say "no" to a team offering up first round picks and other things. But I think the time is now to really add that blue chip prospect, and not trade down past two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 he has us taking allen over garrett? lolz Prob cause allen is ready to tangle with nfl ol right now. Garret will need work and,well, you know the browns dont have any history of properly developing drafted defensive front seven talent right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 If we go dl allen is the pick. Teams are gonna run or roll right at garrett negating his speed rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Prob cause allen is ready to tangle with nfl ol right now. Garret will need work and,well, you know the browns dont have any history of properly developing drafted defensive front seven talent right? Danny Shelton begs to differ. And Christian Kirksey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Danny Shelton begs to differ. And Christian Kirksey. shelton doesnt count cause he was already nfl strong when we drafted him. He's done some stuff on his own in the offseason to get better, which speaks for him but im failing to see where the browns staff has had a major impact on him. Kirksey is still meh in my book, he's benefitting this year playing next to demario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Of our ILBs, Davis is the stud? Sorry, not seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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