cambridgeho Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Right. If Cousins is traded to SFO....and Glennon gets signed by Da Bears....that would be two of the 4 teams in the top 6 that were looking for QBs taken out of the QB Draft Derby....fair to say? That would leave the Jets also looking (and even though they have invested a 2d and a 3rd round pick on QBs the last 2 years) Their philosophy may be: keep drafting QBs til you get it right. Should that also be the Browns Philosophy? Looks like we could have a QB at pick 12 or they just are not valued that high after the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 It may have been posted somewhere else, but the Browns met privately with Joe Mixon (aka the woman basher) before his pro day: http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18850454/joe-mixon-met-privately-cincinnati-bengals-cleveland-browns-detroit-lions-new-orleans-saints-ahead-pro-day Disheartening to me to say the least. I understand it's just a meeting and could mean nothing but I don't get why you meet with the dude at all. That's a nightmare PR scenario waiting to happen. The guy went through the legal system. The guy went through suspension for what he did in college. He has suffered through the reprimands that society and the college sport system saw fit. Should he now be barred forever from attaining some kind of living doing what he is good at? After you beat your wife were you allowed to go back to your job...or at least pursue a job in your field of endeavour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Dumervill cut by the Ravens At Age 33 not likely a target for our FO to pursue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Hoyer to the 49ers. Shanny liked him when he was with the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I maybe taking crazy pills here, but with the latest news coming out that Glennon is going to Chicago, Hoyer is going to SF, and TT just restructured with the BIlls, doesn't this put the Browns in the driver's seat for whichever qb they want in the draft? Also, doesn't this lower the asking price for Garrapolo? Whom is going to trade for him now? It's not going to be chicago or SF. NE won't trade within the divsion (Jets). I could see a team such as NO or AZ, perhaps. Look at the Draft order: 1. Cleveland Browns- Take Garrett with no hesitation 2. San Francisco 49ers- Will take a qb at some point, but not this high. It wouldn't surprise me if they trade out 3. Chicago Bears-No way they take a qb here if they sign Glennon 4. Jacksonville Jaguars-Don't need a qb (at least in their eyes) 5. Tennessee Titans from Los Angeles Rams-Don't need a qb 6. New York Jets- They need a qb but have so many other needs. They are gutting their roster. I think they trade down 7. Los Angeles Chargers-Don't need a qb 8. Carolina Panthers-Don't need a qb 9. Cincinnati Bengals-Don't need a qb 10. Buffalo Bills-Don't need a qb 11. New Orleans Saints- I can see a qb getting drafted in this spot as a potential replacement for Brees 12. Cleveland Browns from Philadelphia Eagles -BINGO. Even if one qb goes ahead of them, they still have either Watson or Trubs In all honesty, they could even trade up anywhere between 6-10 and not give up that much and get the guy they want. I really think this is going to work out better than they were thinking I don't see the fact that Hoyer may be going to the Niners as evidence that they would not take a QB at #2. Why would you think that? Hoyer is a backup...bridge QB at best. And they still have sights set on Cousins perhaps. If Cousins goes there, that is a complete different story. And if Cousins does go to SFO...what do the Skins get in return? #2 overall? If that is the case then the Redskins are definite players for a QB at #2. Do you think they would just go into the season relying on Colt McCoy? Nyet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 The Colts have traded Dwayne Allen to the Patriots That's it Indianapolis, you send good players to an AFC rival that keeps beating you in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Looks like we could have a QB at pick 12 or they just are not valued that high after the combine. They are QBs, of course they will be valued high. I still say 2 will be taken in Top 12...even if the Bears get Glennon, the 49ers get Cousins. The Jets would get one....and the Redskins if that trade is made would be in the market...and the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 The Colts have traded Dwayne Allen to the Patriots So seems as if Sheard will be hitting FA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 So seems as if Sheard will be hitting FA... How so? Dwayne Allen = TE? Salary implications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/08/kyle-juszczyk-expected-to-join-49ers/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true Ravens full back looks gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/08/kyle-juszczyk-expected-to-join-49ers/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true Ravens full back looks gone. squeezing anal-lynic money to tight when your losing these type talents to 2nd in cap 49'ers. Kyle will find a way to use him, while Hue is left falling in the sea of ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 So the real question becomes how many teams really need a QB after the 12th overall. Can we get away with waiting until #33? I think some of the mocks are showing that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Why do I have the sinking feeling that 2 weeks from now, the Browns will have done nothing and they will be telling us to 'trust the process'? Hope I'm wrong, but............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 D Bone ...your not far from the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 hopefully they dont sit on there hands sign bunch bums why missing out on all the top players maybe we could sign kap and joe mixon the woman beater (joking of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Why do I have the sinking feeling that 2 weeks from now, the Browns will have done nothing and they will be telling us to 'trust the process'? Hope I'm wrong, but............ Well lets see what happens in the 1st 24 hours after 4pm tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I maybe taking crazy pills here, but with the latest news coming out that Glennon is going to Chicago, Hoyer is going to SF, and TT just restructured with the BIlls, doesn't this put the Browns in the driver's seat for whichever qb they want in the draft? Also, doesn't this lower the asking price for Garrapolo? Whom is going to trade for him now? It's not going to be chicago or SF. NE won't trade within the divsion (Jets). I could see a team such as NO or AZ, perhaps. Look at the Draft order: 1. Cleveland Browns- Take Garrett with no hesitation 2. San Francisco 49ers- Will take a qb at some point, but not this high. It wouldn't surprise me if they trade out 3. Chicago Bears-No way they take a qb here if they sign Glennon 4. Jacksonville Jaguars-Don't need a qb (at least in their eyes) 5. Tennessee Titans from Los Angeles Rams-Don't need a qb 6. New York Jets- They need a qb but have so many other needs. They are gutting their roster. I think they trade down 7. Los Angeles Chargers-Don't need a qb 8. Carolina Panthers-Don't need a qb 9. Cincinnati Bengals-Don't need a qb 10. Buffalo Bills-Don't need a qb 11. New Orleans Saints- I can see a qb getting drafted in this spot as a potential replacement for Brees 12. Cleveland Browns from Philadelphia Eagles -BINGO. Even if one qb goes ahead of them, they still have either Watson or Trubs In all honesty, they could even trade up anywhere between 6-10 and not give up that much and get the guy they want. I really think this is going to work out better than they were thinking Gip is pretty spot on. Hoyer could just be the"bridge" qb. They may well draft a qb @ #2, or trade for Cousins. Or, assuming Cousins wants out of Washington, they can just bide their time an make him an offer next year. They're pretty much in the same boat talent wise that the Browns are. Besides the Saints- I could see the Chargers in the market for an eventual Rivers replacement. I don't see the fact that Hoyer may be going to the Niners as evidence that they would not take a QB at #2. Why would you think that? Hoyer is a backup...bridge QB at best. And they still have sights set on Cousins perhaps. If Cousins goes there, that is a complete different story. And if Cousins does go to SFO...what do the Skins get in return? #2 overall? If that is the case then the Redskins are definite players for a QB at #2. Do you think they would just go into the season relying on Colt McCoy? Nyet. If this falls out as suggested above, it's entirely possible Trubs (or Watson- yuck) maybe both- could be there @ #12. If the 49ers don't take a qb, a trade up with the Jets just got a lot more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Jesus Christ people... we did not sign a fucking FB! We'll miss him at least 6 plays a game... Sorry... just spent an hour in the Political section and had some carry over. How so? Dwayne Allen = TE? Salary implications? More like brainfart... Somehow got Dwight Freeney in my head, but only because he played there a few years ago and the names are so dissimilar... Why do I have the sinking feeling that 2 weeks from now, the Browns will have done nothing and they will be telling us to 'trust the process'? Hope I'm wrong, but............ I'll be there for you, D... it'll be alright... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 So the real question becomes how many teams really need a QB after the 12th overall. Can we get away with waiting until #33? I think some of the mocks are showing that now. Teams with most dire QB needs: Browns 49ers Bears Jets Others that may be interested in developing a QB: Chargers Cardinals Texans Chiefs Saints Jags Steelers Giants Some of these latter teams have 35+ year old QBs...they need to start to think of the future...and may do so this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Why do I have the sinking feeling that 2 weeks from now, the Browns will have done nothing and they will be telling us to 'trust the process'? Hope I'm wrong, but............ Because their analytics will supposedly tell them not to spend an additional farthing more than their math computation says to....and they are slaves to their mathematics....which of course means that they exercise poor human judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 You've clearly missed the Britt news then because that has nothing to do with maths and supposed value I'm sure. Analytics is a word thrown around and 99.9999% of you have no idea what it is meant to mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 The guy went through the legal system. The guy went through suspension for what he did in college. He has suffered through the reprimands that society and the college sport system saw fit. Should he now be barred forever from attaining some kind of living doing what he is good at? After you beat your wife were you allowed to go back to your job...or at least pursue a job in your field of endeavour? So have a lot of guys, but some people just aren't worth the backlash they will bring to your organization. It's just not worth it. Also, I tell students all the time there are such things as non-negotiable mistakes. I would classify punching a woman in the face so hard she can't eat out of it as pretty fucking bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Patriots swapping Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks ....already signing Allen and Gilmore ....... Pats making deals like a 1-15 team .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 So have a lot of guys, but some people just aren't worth the backlash they will bring to your organization. It's just not worth it. Also, I tell students all the time there are such things as non-negotiable mistakes. I would classify punching a woman in the face so hard she can't eat out of it as pretty fucking bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Rams have signed Robert Woods Eagles have signed Torrey Smith Bills cut safety Aaron Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Patriots swapping Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks ....already signing Allen and Gilmore ....... Pats making deals like a 1-15 team .... Trade hasn't happend yet. Cooks is on a cheap deal and Butler is restricted this year. The Saints are on the fence for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Saints have signed Ted Ginn and expect to trade Cooks away by tonight. Have to wonder why they want him gone so (or so it seems) badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 You've clearly missed the Britt news then because that has nothing to do with maths and supposed value I'm sure. Analytics is a word thrown around and 99.9999% of you have no idea what it is meant to mean. ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars. SCREAMS analytics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Saints have signed Ted Ginn and expect to trade Cooks away by tonight. Have to wonder why they want him gone so (or so it seems) badly Pat's offense will average 30-40 a game next year. With Gronk back and Cooks and Allen added as well. Possibly Peterson going there. The rich will get richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars. Pryor thinks he's worth Y....team says go find a team willing to pay you Y. We will take X and give it to a guy who has the same production/basically the same age/ and more than one year at the WR position. In other words, the Browns know what they're getting in Britt...Pryor is a huge unknown. One year doesn't make a career. Could be Randy Moss....could be a one hit wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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