On Election Eve the Repub Congressional Candidate for Montana's Only House Seat "BodySlams" Reporter

[Clevfan4life]

there is no mounting evidence

Theres so little mounting evidence ur so right

[calfoxwc]

don't care. if the guy is guilty of assault, he gets charged and can end up in the slammer.

 

Not much of a political subject to me.

[tiamat63]

of course there is misrepresentation. I don't care about whoever this guy is, I don't know if the reporter was physically

intimidating him, or simply asking a question, and this politician grabbed him and threw him down...

 

your liberal hypocrisy is on display, that is all. You libs pick and choose depending on what sissy mood you are feeling in

at the time.

 

good for you to backtrack on your trying to start some kind of serious problem. The point is, you may rail against this nut

republican who bodyslammed some reporter, whatever the whole story is... but if higgardly slapped a reporter,

your tune would be opposite because of the politics.

 

Neither you nor woody ever want to try to jack my jaw - I'm old school. I will walk away from a fight before it happens, but

when it's on, it's going to be over fast, and I'm the guy who walks away fine. So, Sissy Tiasmsies, whether or not you live up

to your online hostility, it is no problem to me. I'm just one guy who notices how you operate.

If Hilary slapped a reporter Id call for her to dropout of the race and politics In general. She (isn't) would not be fit to lead if you cannot maintain composure.

 

Also in our other thread I said I've been registered as unaffiliated since day 1 and never once voted for Obama and on this forum itself in the early days of the race even gave praise to Trump for his stance on TPP and NAFTA. Denouncing Hilary in general.

 

Your response was that "I'm still registered as a Dem".

 

I'm beginning to believe either you're incapable or unwilling to read. As I've said more than once I would closer identity myself as libertarian or a "socially liberal conservative". In the truest sense of the phrase.

 

Has.any of that escaped you or do you only believe there are "Real Americans" and liberals?

[OldBrownsFan]

Perhaps u did, perhaps not. Prrhaps u haedged ur condemnation, who knows. Like it or not ur now part of "you people" because too many times you tow the line instead of standing on common principle. Like everyone here was appalled at the hillary bullshit that got leaked, but the insistent defense against ever mounting evidence that trump has hos own shit is pathetic. Psul ryan has the right idea, we'll ser where these investigations go......and for that "you people" labrl him a rino

 

No perhaps about it I have been consistent about condemning violence. And Paul Ryan is a RINO and Cal is right there is no mounting evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign. This investigation has been going on for a year or so and still there in no evidence to support collusion. None.

 

Fighting the Politicized, Evidence-Free ‘Collusion with Russia’ Narrative

 

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447915/trump-russia-collusion-john-brennan-testimony-how-fight-politicized-narrative

[Clevfan4life]

 

No perhaps about it I have been consistent about condemning violence. And Paul Ryan is a RINO and Cal is right there is no mounting evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign. This investigation has been going on for a year or so and still there in no evidence to support collusion. None.

Exactly as i thought you'd respond. Dudes are taken ng the 5th, which trump himself derided as a clear sign of guilt....but when his guys do it ur all cool. Exactly as predicted

[tiamat63]

Aside from a key witness pleading the 5th.

 

Non what so ever.

[OldBrownsFan]

Despite Allegations, No Evidence of Trump–Russia Collusion Found

Breaking down the allegations that Trump colluded with Russia and the efforts to undermine his presidency

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2252532-despite-allegations-no-evidence-of-trump-russia-collusion-found/

[Clevfan4life]

I love "evidence free". The cia basically said we know the russians were trying to worm into trumps campaign. Whether they succeeded or not is up in the air....but u.s spies know the russians were trying. Its all circumstantial still, and thats how OJ get off buttttt.....

[OldBrownsFan]

No Evidence of Collusion

(Bryan Thomas/Getty Images)

“We did not include evidence in our report—and I say ‘our,’ that’s NSA, FBI, and CIA, with my office, the director of national intelligence—that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.”

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told MSNBC’s Chuck Todd on March 5. In response to Todd’s question about whether such evidence existed, Clapper said, “Not to my knowledge.” When asked under oath before a Senate Judiciary subcommittee on May 8 whether his statement is still accurate, he said, “It is.“

[OldBrownsFan]

(Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

“There are all kinds of rumors around. There are newspaper stories, but that’s not necessarily evidence.”

 

Senate Judiciary Committee ranking member Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on May 18, reaffirming that she had not seen any evidence showing collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

 

“No, we have not.”

[OldBrownsFan]

(NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP/Getty Images)

“I think he’s right about characterizing the report which you all have read.”

Then-FBI Director James Comey, speaking under oath before a House Intelligence Committee on March 20, referring to a statement made by the former director of national intelligence that no evidence had been found of collusion between members of Trump’s team and Russia.

(Win McNamee/Getty Images)

“On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire, at all. … There’s no little campfire, there’s no little candle, there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.”

Michael Morell, former acting CIA director under the Obama administration, as quoted by NBC News

[calfoxwc]

the only one I know of offhand, taking the fifth, is Flynn. I don't have much use for him, being an

obaMao hack, then gone, then being in the Trump admin, then he lied to Pence, and he's gone.

 

all this angst about reps/hacks taking the fifth, but never a complaint about the endless

 

dancing around answering questions, and lying by lerner, higgardly, and all the rest.

[calfoxwc]

I'm beginning to believe either you're incapable or unwilling to read. As I've said more than once I would closer identity myself as libertarian or a "socially liberal conservative". In the truest sense of the phrase. Tiamsies

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I read fine, always have. You need to understand what you post. You was gonna change from being a dem, but didn't.

You didn't vote for obamao or higgardly...tough to believe.

 

but, then you say your are more libertarian/socially liberal conservative."

 

ROF,L. A socially liberal....person.... IS A FREAKING LIBERAL. NOT A CONSERVATIVE.

Unless of course, you have obamao or some liberal corrupt federal judge order the word to be

redefined.

 

That is also what liberals do - they use words like they have no idea what the real definitions are. Like "marriage".

"liberal". "conservative" Liberals vent emotionally, using words interchangeably any time it makes them feel "right".

Not much right about liberals.... they emote leftly.

[Clevfan4life]

Caoatse doesnt know what a libertarian is. And per usual he wont educate himself. Libertarians are socially liberal coatse, u ignorant sock puppet

[BaconHound]

 

The article I posted only pointed out the hypocrisy in the liberal media. If you read it that should have been clear. In no place was the assault being condoned. In fact the article even stated there was a good argument not to vote for Gianforte over the incident.

 

BTW - weren't you the guy who giddily posted about Trump supporters getting beat up...if you check prior threads I am sure it was you Cleve.

 

 

Do we just forget Fox News' coverage of the Bush Administration? How about Rush, Bill, Glenn & Hannity? These all unbiased far right journalists? Can we at least be honest in here.

[Clevfan4life]

Can we at least be honest in here.

 

Nope. Aint happenin

[Clevfan4life]

Fox is/was right down the middle.....never waivered. Im not one of these partisan headlice so i'll pkainly state the constant anti trump narrative, daily...hourly......its on my last nerve. Why did i have to be subjected to melanoma slapping trumps hand away? Why is this fucking news?

[LogicIsForSquares]

Cal, so if a person differs just on one thing they are a liberal? Even if they are for small government, fiscal conservatism, pro 2nd Am. etc.? Logic would be that then means any person who identifies as liberal but is pro-life would be a conservative.

 

Am I missing something or are you just fishing to get one on Tia?

[LogicIsForSquares]

Fox is/was right down the middle.....never waivered. Im not one of these partisan headlice so i'll pkainly state the constant anti trump narrative, daily...hourly......its on my last nerve. Why did i have to be subjected to melanoma slapping trumps hand away? Why is this fucking news?

I was equally annoyed when Fox was harping on the amount of corn in Obama's shit. A constant deluge of bitching about any president just turns into background noise eventually.

[Westside Steve]

I love "evidence free". The cia basically said we know the russians were trying to worm into trumps campaign. Whether they succeeded or not is up in the air....but u.s spies know the russians were trying. Its all circumstantial still, and thats how OJ get off buttttt.....

No, it really wasn't.

WSS

[OldBrownsFan]

 

 

Do we just forget Fox News' coverage of the Bush Administration? How about Rush, Bill, Glenn & Hannity? These all unbiased far right journalists? Can we at least be honest in here.

 

Rush Limbaugh: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Bill O'Reilly: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Sean Hannity: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Glen Beck: Not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

 

These guys are commentators. They give out their opinions and they are free to do so because they only claim to be commentators and not journalists. It is on the left where journalists have gone off the rails of being unbiased reporters to activists and making commentary when journalists should not be doing that.

[tiamat63]

Cal, so if a person differs just on one thing they are a liberal? Even if they are for small government, fiscal conservatism, pro 2nd Am. etc.? Logic would be that then means any person who identifies as liberal but is pro-life would be a conservative.

 

Am I missing something or are you just fishing to get one on Tia?

This is because home girl ain't a conservative or centrist, he's been pushed so far alt right that anything reasonable he has the option of respectfully disagreeing with is dirty and liberal. A man so hell bent against marxism, communism and socialism. Though I'm sure he draws SS at his age.

 

I believe in limiting government (especially federal) hands when and whereever reasonable and possible. That is the hallmark of comversative as it were. This is the smell test Cal doesn't pass and why he isn't my people - I don't give a flying fuck about gay marriage. If the queer couple down the road keeps their home nice thus positively impacting property values in my area, I'm good. The rest is none of my business and again, simply don't care. The government should have no say in that as I'm all for getting them out of.marriage all together in essence.

 

Cal would shed tears of joy to even think an EO that banned gay marriage could be legally upheld. Or that in the perfect, Christian American it would be made illegal entirely.

 

Because he's good with big brother determining morality and legislating when it suits his beliefs.

 

False conservative. False republican. He's Alt right Christian. Nothing more.

 

My stance is at least consistent.

[MLD Woody]

Cal is a FAKE conservative? Hmmm, good point.

[MLD Woody]

Cal, so if a person differs just on one thing they are a liberal? Even if they are for small government, fiscal conservatism, pro 2nd Am. etc.? Logic would be that then means any person who identifies as liberal but is pro-life would be a conservative.

 

Am I missing something or are you just fishing to get one on Tia?

You know this answer. If you've ever presented a differing opinion on ANYTHING, you've been called a liberal.

[MLD Woody]

 

Rush Limbaugh: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Bill O'Reilly: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Sean Hannity: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Glen Beck: Not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

 

These guys are commentators. They give out their opinions and they are free to do so because they only claim to be commentators and not journalists. It is on the left where journalists have gone off the rails of being unbiased reporters to activists and making commentary when journalists should not be doing that.

I started with Beck. First link...

 

 

 

And let's be real, these people are on a NEWS station. Whether or not they call themselves journalists, their viewers treat them as such.

[OldBrownsFan]

I started with Beck. First link...

 

 

 

And let's be real, these people are on a NEWS station. Whether or not they call themselves journalists, their viewers treat them as such.

 

The difference between reporting and commentary

 

Journalists are held to a very high standard of ethics and are expected to meet that standard on a daily basis. It is a fair assumption to make; after all, we are trusted to report the truth of what is happening in the world we live in, and what we say carries an enormous impact.

 

The public has a right to expect the best from us. But the public also needs to be aware of a particularly distinct division between journalists when they seek to enforce a standard of excellence.

 

The primary division between us is that of reporters and commentators, which essentially splits us into the “news” section of the newspaper, and the “opinion” section. More often than not, the public treats both sections as if they are one and the same.

I’ll be blunt: they are not the same thing. I do not report the news; I give my opinion on the news. The Collegian’s reporters report the news; they do not give their opinions on it. To insinuate otherwise does a disservice to both you the reader and the newspaper as a whole.

 

There are different standards for each desk. Reporters are expected to seek the truth and report it, usually as it happens or shortly after it happens. They must, therefore, find as many aspects of a story as they can. If there is a conflict (and usually there is) they must fairly represent both sides of that conflict where possible. Both sides have a unique angle to add to the story, and the public needs that to make up their own minds about the story.

 

For columnists, the news has already been reported and our job is to provide our perspective on it. If there is a conflict involved in the news, we tend to fall on one side or the other and we structure our opinions accordingly. Our job is to provide a bit of color to the story, share a unique perspective on the story, or explain why we think the story is a non-issue.

 

We take sides because that is what we are supposed to do. That’s our job. You don’t look for an opinion columnist that doesn’t express an opinion; that’s like looking for a teacher that doesn’t teach, or a taxi driver that doesn’t drive a taxi.

 

I tend to see examples of people falsely equating news and opinion when they start complaining about bias in the media. My liberal friends complain that FOX News is biased because of people like Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity. My conservative friends complain that MSNBC is biased because of people like Rachel Maddow and Ed Shultz. Are these people biased? Definitely. Are they reporters? Not by any stretch of the imagination. Their job is to say, “I’m a liberal/conservative and here’s what I think of the news,” not, “Here is objective news.”

News and opinion writers both publish articles they believe to be the truth about an issue. But here’s the difference: reporters would cover a debate about gay marriage, whereas columnists would take one side or another — sometimes neither.

Does this mean that we are forgiven for poor fact checking, or simply making things up? No, absolutely not. Our opinions would have no weight otherwise, and nobody (not just the people who disagree with us) could take us seriously. Columnists adhere to the same standard of accuracy that reporters do (we do make mistakes from time to time, but we’re human just like everyone else) — we just look at the world through a particular lens.

 

There are many, many valid complaints to be made about commentators like my staff and me. I’ve heard a lot of them in the relatively short time that I’ve been at the Collegian and they are definitely complaints that I myself have made before arriving here.

Are we sometimes given more influence than we should have? Yes. Do we sometimes come off as arrogant and dismissive? You betcha. (Although, to be fair, that’s a complaint that fits just about anyone who works in the public spotlight). Do we occasionally give the impression that we have an axe to grind? Sure.

 

But that’s what we are supposed to do. Conflating us with reporters does you a disservice. If you’re looking for news in the opinion section, you’re going to be disappointed. If you point to the opinion section as a poor standard of reporting, you’d be correct because we aren’t reporting.

 

There is a big difference. Knowing that difference helps you become a more savvy media consumer, which is something that we sorely need in today’s society.

 

https://collegian.com/2013/02/the-difference-between-reporting-and-commentary/

[MLD Woody]

Right, great copy and paste.

 

You said he never claimed to be. He clearly has. It's on video.

[BaconHound]

 

Rush Limbaugh: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Bill O'Reilly: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Sean Hannity: not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

Glen Beck: Not a journalist, never claimed to be one.

 

These guys are commentators. They give out their opinions and they are free to do so because they only claim to be commentators and not journalists. It is on the left where journalists have gone off the rails of being unbiased reporters to activists and making commentary when journalists should not be doing that.

 

 

They were on Fox News not Fox Commentary

[Clevfan4life]

Right, great copy and paste.

 

You said he never claimed to be. He clearly has. It's on video.

Its srsly time to stop conversing with "those people". Obf is obviously one of them. Im dead serious is there another browns board that has a poly section and isnt populated by whining snowflakes protected by board admins?

[OldBrownsFan]

 

 

They were on Fox News not Fox Commentary

 

And Fox news is separated with their hard news dept and those who do commentary and editorials.