MLD Woody Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Peppers sucks butt. The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post. You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Hogan sacked, loss of 9, 3rd down and 16... and... lost the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Hogan and Kizer have no vision at all. Obviously, we need a QB as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Even though we were getting our asses whooped this team gave up. Even the coaches quit it seems like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, bbedward said: Even though we were getting our asses whooped this team gave up. Even the coaches quit it seems like. "Fake it 'til ya make it" optimism can only get you so far when things go so wrong for so long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 44 minutes ago, Tacosman said: stopping the run in the nfl today is almost worthless. It actually can be a bad thing if it encourages teams to throw more. Oh I couldn't agree more. What i'm trying to say is stopping the run only is killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 It's almost over. Then we can hear the press conference. They battled out there. We've gotta keep working and getting better every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns1216 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 my stream is completely lost now, worth going through the trouble to find another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Orion said: It's almost over. Then we can hear the press conference. They battled out there. We've gotta keep working and getting better every day. Imagine if Hue was clearly upset and not even-tempered while "saying all the right things". I think that day will be sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 TD Browns. 33-17 with a minute left. Another late Hogan TD after the other team stopped really caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Officially 0-6 for 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 6 down, 10 to go for perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, D Bone said: 6 down, 10 to go for perfection Can we start planning the parade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 I have to admit, it makes me wonder what Kessler did so bad that these guys are better. Kessler showed some good things last year and this Sheet show at QB couldn't be worse. I'm not saying I think Kessler is the dude, but was he THAT bad that these guys are better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post. You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out. DieHard is a miserable twat. You were being too kind. The only thing he's good at is liking everything miktoxic posts like he's a school girl with a crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, bbedward said: Can we start planning the parade? Yep..... everyone must dress up as some form of poop and wear toilet seats around their necks, all while chanting "Trust The Process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Bring on the Titans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 I'm not throwing in the towel on Hogan, you shouldn't either. It's one game against a hot team, the NFL clearly wants to pump up Watson. Hogan had an off game. That is the exception to the rule. Stick with Hogan, give him another week to prepare. You can't expect him to be perfect yet. This team has to help out. There were multiple mistakes that WR's made this game. We'll have to review the tape and see where the mistakes were made. Hogan didn't play his best game but he had little help. This was the Browns 16th consecutive road loss. It gonna take more than 3 days for Hogan to fix this. Hogan is 0-1. Kizer is 0-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Penalties killed all of the momentum. Took first downs off the board. Made 2nd and 3rd n short into 3rd and longs. The lack of screen plays and plays with some movement were telling, maybe Hue set Hogan up to fail. We'll see if that's the case if he pulls Hogan before he's had a FAIR shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 1. For the first time all season, the Browns had a little momentum on their first offensive series of the game. Trailing 3-0, Cleveland picked up back-to-back first downs and neared midfield following a Kevin Hogan scramble on third down. On a second-and-7 from the 49, Hogan found Kasen Williams for what appeared to be a big first down. Williams took a short pass and cut up the field for 17 yards and into field goal range. A flag, though, nullified most of the damage, as running back Isaiah Crowell was penalized for an illegal block in the back. Instead of first-and-10 from the Texans’ 35, the Browns had a second-and-3 at the 47. Two plays later, they punted, marking the sixth straight game they came away with no points on the first drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, PoeticG said: I'm not throwing in the towel on Hogan, you shouldn't either. It's one game against a hot team, the NFL clearly wants to pump up Watson. Hogan had an off game. That is the exception to the rule. Stick with Hogan, give him another week to prepare. You can't expect him to be perfect yet. This team has to help out. There were multiple mistakes that WR's made this game. We'll have to review the tape and see where the mistakes were made. Hogan didn't play his best game but he had little help. This was the Browns 16th consecutive road loss. It gonna take more than 3 days for Hogan to fix this. Hogan is 0-1. Kizer is 0-5. Nope, nope, nope. Kizer was the reason the Browns were 0-5, if Hogan was in there the Browns would be at least 3-2. Sounds like what you've been saying, right? Now the backpedaling and excuse-making begins, just like I knew it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 There is NO EXCUSE- just facts. Hogan's had 3 days to play a HOT Texans team. Hogan's INT for a TD came because of poor route execution by the WR. Maybe multiple times. He didn't throw something that wasn't there for an INT. The defense made a play. The INT to Duke was a little high for him but then Watson threw that same type of overthrow for an INT. Don't make Hogan the sole excuse for the loss and turn a blind eye to the facts, that's all. This game had blame to go around. How many holding calls did the refs call on the Browns that shouldn't have been called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: The site told me you quoted me in a topic. I already knew what you were gonna post. You need a hobby old man. Living your last days in a retirement home as an average to below average troll is no way to go out. I couldn’t give a Sheet less where he played in college but I am wholly underwhelmed with him right now. He’s playing out of position and infinity yards off the ball and that’s no doubt part of it, but still. Bad angles in pursuit 5 minutes ago, PoeticG said: There is NO EXCUSE- just facts. Hogan's had 3 days to play a HOT Texans team. Hogan's INT for a TD came because of poor route execution by the WR. Maybe multiple times. He didn't throw something that wasn't there for an INT. The defense made a play. The INT to Duke was a little high for him but then Watson threw that same type of overthrow for an INT. Don't make Hogan the sole excuse for the loss and turn a blind eye to the facts, that's all. This game had blame to go around. How many holding calls did the refs call on the Browns that shouldn't have been called? Here’s a fact: Kevin Hogan sucks and you were extremely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Sorry PoG, I was with you 100% going into this game, but Hogan just didn't pass the eye test on what an NFL QB should look like in terms of velocity and ball placement...... The dude is tough and I like the kid, but he isn't going to be our QBOTF....... He's just another name on the back of that jersey, and likely won't be near the last. What a sorry, sorry professional sports franchise....... It would be hard to suck this bad for this long if you were actually trying to, as sooner or later you would accidentally win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 44 minutes ago, PoeticG said: Penalties killed all of the momentum. Took first downs off the board. Made 2nd and 3rd n short into 3rd and longs. The lack of screen plays and plays with some movement were telling, maybe Hue set Hogan up to fail. We'll see if that's the case if he pulls Hogan before he's had a FAIR shake. Same story for both Kizer and Hogan. They get nervous and make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns1216 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 with kizer, it's hitting the receivers in the hands and having the ball deflected for interceptions. with hogan, it's overthrowing your receivers by a few feet for interceptions. both are not ready to carry an NFL team on their shoulders. Both have shown flashes but it's a tough choice, do you want a diarrhea milk shake or a snotsicle? i don't envy hue right now. Kessler is looking good right now but the Browns have to ride out the season with Kizer to leave no room for doubt that they need to draft a 1st round QB next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, PoeticG said: I don't think that it was Hogan making the mistakes. I think the young WRs ran some bad routes. It wasn't even 'bad routes', it was more subtle little body placement issues that can be corrected. These guys have been playing with Kizer for 5 weeks, the timing is off. TIMING is what Hogan is good at. Maybe, just maybe the WRs and RBs need to sync to the playbook that Hogan is running and not the one Kizer has been making up. This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Richiswhere said: This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1971 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Richiswhere said: This is absolutely the most Retarded post ever. I get the impression that not only are you a crack smoker but you lace your crack with meth all while huffing paint Is Heisenberg back in business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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