boo fagley Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, Flugel said: No, Boo is just trying to argue that garbage doesn't stink in NE. But somehow 2016 Britt racked up 1000 yards and 5 TDs. 2017 Larry Fitzgerald 1156 yards and 6 TDs. Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 11 hours ago, boo fagley said: Kizer led the NFL in INTs with 22. How many more were dropped by the defense. 2016 Britt didnt have any problem getting open and catching the ball after 3 years in the Rams offense and with only Case Keenum throwing the ball. Britt must have clicked with Keenum and thats important. You watched a new QB in Tennessee every year. Do you really think you need to tell anyone on this board that Kizer struggled - especially the guy who called him the Forfeit? That said, if you're going to argue all Britt needed was an accurate QB for much better production - in this comparison Britt had 2 receptions per game with Kizer and only 2 receptions in 3 games played with Brady. As I said to you already - the experienced Brady preferred the receivers that get open and run good routes. You can celebrate that 2016 exception to the rule all you want. I'm not nearly as impressed with a 1st round NFL WR that has played 9 years and only exceeded 42 receptions once and only exceeded 775 yards once while averaging only 3.5 TDs a year. FWIW, I tried to talk myself into him too when he was 1 of the only available veteran WRs that would have touched our 2017 situation with a 10 foot pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Britt was a cancer. He whined and cried the whole time. He groaned about playing in London. He stayed out all night with Coleman partying the night before Hogan got his one and only start. Shmuck him and his 500,000 dollars per catch salary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 14 hours ago, boo fagley said: But somehow 2016 Britt racked up 1000 yards and 5 TDs. 2017 Larry Fitzgerald 1156 yards and 6 TDs. Garbage. 😄 Come on Lancelot - all that sniffing Britt's garbage is making you silly! There's nothing garbage about Fitzgerald's 109 receptions in his 14th NFL season in 2017 - that's why you made sure you didn't include them. Here's Fitzgerald's career stats where his average # of receptions, yards and TDs blow away Kenny Britt's. In fact, count how many times he had more than Britt's career best of 68 rec and 1002 yards. Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 2017 Arizona Cardinals 16 109 1,156 10.6 72.2 37 6 16 0 66 1 2016 Arizona Cardinals 16 107 1,023 9.6 63.9 32 6 8 0 59 2 2015 Arizona Cardinals 16 109 1,215 11.1 75.9 44 9 17 1 65 2 2014 Arizona Cardinals 14 63 784 12.4 56.0 80T 2 11 1 39 1 2013 Arizona Cardinals 16 82 954 11.6 59.6 75T 10 11 3 49 1 2012 Arizona Cardinals 16 71 798 11.2 49.9 37T 4 9 0 44 0 2011 Arizona Cardinals 16 80 1,411 17.6 88.2 73T 8 25 8 61 0 2010 Arizona Cardinals 16 90 1,137 12.6 71.1 41 6 14 1 59 0 2009 Arizona Cardinals 16 97 1,092 11.3 68.2 34T 13 12 0 69 0 2008 Arizona Cardinals 16 96 1,431 14.9 89.4 78T 12 20 5 66 1 2007 Arizona Cardinals 15 100 1,409 14.1 93.9 48T 10 19 4 69 3 2006 Arizona Cardinals 13 69 946 13.7 72.8 57 6 11 2 52 0 2005 Arizona Cardinals 16 103 1,409 13.7 88.1 47 10 27 4 67 0 2004 Arizona Cardinals 16 58 780 13.4 48.8 48 8 15 1 36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Flugel said: Do you really think you need to tell anyone on this board that Kizer struggled - especially the guy who called him the Forfeit? That said, if you're going to argue all Britt needed was an accurate QB for much better production - in this comparison Britt had 2 receptions per game with Kizer and only 2 receptions in 3 games played with Brady. As I said to you already - the experienced Brady preferred the receivers that get open and run good routes. You can celebrate that 2016 exception to the rule all you want. I'm not nearly as impressed with a 1st round NFL WR that has played 9 years and only exceeded 42 receptions once and only exceeded 775 yards once while averaging only 3.5 TDs a year. FWIW, I tried to talk myself into him too when he was 1 of the only available veteran WRs that would have touched our 2017 situation with a 10 foot pole. Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN? Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp. His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game. 4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs 2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs 2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs. If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, boo fagley said: Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN? Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp. His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game. 4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs 2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs 2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs. If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential. was britt even activated for any of the playoff games last year ? oh wait I know the answer NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 I got stuck with this dog on a FL team once came a bit alive before coming to Cleveland but basically an overrated bust. Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 116 76 609 329 5137 15.6 32 80 2.8 44.3 2 14 0 12 7.0 0.1 0.0 355 5151 32 7 40 5 yrs TEN 57 30 299 157 2450 15.6 19 80 2.8 43.0 181 2450 19 5 22 3 yrs STL-LAR 47 42 267 152 2431 16.0 11 66 3.2 51.7 2 14 0 12 7.0 0.3 0.0 154 2445 11 2 17 1 yr CLE 9 4 38 18 233 12.9 2 38 2.0 25.9 18 233 2 0 1 1 yr NWE 3 0 5 2 23 11.5 0 16 0.7 7.7 2 23 0 0 0 2009 21 TEN wr 18 16 6 75 42 701 16.7 3 57 2.6 43.8 56.0% 66 701 3 1 7 2010 22 TEN wr 18 12 7 73 42 775 18.5 9 80 3.5 64.6 57.5% 42 775 9 1 8 2011 23 TEN wr 18 3 3 26 17 289 17.0 3 80 5.7 96.3 65.4% 17 289 3 1 2 2012 24 TEN WR 18 14 11 90 45 589 13.1 4 46 3.2 42.1 50.0% 45 589 4 2 4 2013 25 TEN wr 18 12 3 35 11 96 8.7 0 15 0.9 8.0 31.4% 11 96 0 0 1 2014 26 STL WR 81 16 13 84 48 748 15.6 3 63 3.0 46.8 57.1% 2 14 0 12 7.0 0.9 0.1 50 762 3 0 6 2015 27 STL WR 18 16 14 72 36 681 18.9 3 60 2.3 42.6 50.0% 36 681 3 0 5 2016 28 LAR WR 18 15 15 111 68 1002 14.7 5 66 4.5 66.8 61.3% 68 1002 5 2 6 2017 29 2TM 12 4 43 20 256 12.8 2 38 1.7 21.3 46.5% 20 256 2 0 1 CLE wr 18 9 4 38 18 233 12.9 2 38 2.0 25.9 47.4% 18 233 2 0 1 NWE 85 3 0 5 2 23 11.5 0 16 0.7 7.7 40.0% 2 23 0 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, boo fagley said: What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN? Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp. 😄 So, you're blaming Kenny Britt's disappointing 9 year career as a 1st round WR all on Kizer when they were only sentenced to each other for 9 games? The numbers reflect Britt only averaged 2.8 receptions per game with just 570 yards and 3.5 TDs per season. He was very consistent at being inconsistent all except 1 of the 9 years. Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 2017 New England Patriots 3 2 23 11.5 7.7 16 0 0 0 1 0 2017 Cleveland Browns 9 18 233 12.9 25.9 38 2 3 0 9 0 2016 Los Angeles Rams 15 68 1,002 14.7 66.8 66 5 15 4 47 2 2015 St. Louis Rams 16 36 681 18.9 42.6 60T 3 11 5 29 0 2014 St. Louis Rams 16 48 748 15.6 46.8 63T 3 13 3 33 0 2013 Tennessee Titans 12 11 96 8.7 8.0 15 0 0 0 5 0 2012 Tennessee Titans 14 45 589 13.1 42.1 46 4 7 2 24 2 2011 Tennessee Titans 3 17 289 17.0 96.3 80T 3 4 1 14 1 2010 Tennessee Titans 12 42 775 18.5 64.6 80T 9 12 5 33 1 2009 Tennessee Titans 16 42 701 16.7 43.8 57 3 10 4 34 1 TOTAL 116 329 5,137 15.6 44.3 80 32 75 24 229 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 More on the what not to do thread: Transactions Transaction, fine, and suspension data since 2015 December 13, 2017: New England Patriots signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year contract. December 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns cut WR Kenny Britt. December 8, 2017: Cleveland Browns waived WR Kenny Britt. March 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns signed WR Kenny Britt to a four-year, $32.5 million contract. <----- March 18, 2015: Los Angeles Rams re-signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year, $14 million contract. April 7, 2014: Los Angeles Rams signed WR Kenny Britt to a one-year, $1.4 million contract. September 11, 2012: Tennessee Titans lifted the suspension on WR Kenny Britt. July 25, 2012: Tennessee Titans placed WR Kenny Britt on the physically unable to perform list. February 6, 2012: Tennessee Titans has been taken off IR. September 28, 2011: Tennessee Titans placed on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít? Ok, carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said: Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít? Ok, carry on... Actually it's July 30 and I'm watching the INDIANS in a 4-4 game in the 8th inning........ yeah we're talking about BROWNS salary follies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 can we not bring up kizer, like at all? honest to god id gotten him out of my system and essentially forgot who are qb was last year. Obviously if pressed i would rem it but id done a goid job of putting the chargers and packers game, among others, in the back of my mind. Its the same weedons time here, u technically remember it but the vividness is mercufully diminished. I saw the shovelpass live and its something i never thought, until kizer came along, that id see its equal in stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít? Ok, carry on... Why not? As I said when we signed him- beware of guys coming off of contract years. Hah- he's so great, his current contract with the Patriots is only around $500k more than vet minimum. Looking at spotrac, almost none of that is guaranteed. He can be cut at any time, and it only costs Bill and the Patriots $150k to make him go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 7 hours ago, syd said: was britt even activated for any of the playoff games last year ? oh wait I know the answer NO Because he did not know the offense. Its not baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít? Ok, carry on... Did you know he was a 1st round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 hours ago, mjp28 said: More on the what not to do thread: Transactions Transaction, fine, and suspension data since 2015 December 13, 2017: New England Patriots signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year contract. December 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns cut WR Kenny Britt. December 8, 2017: Cleveland Browns waived WR Kenny Britt. March 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns signed WR Kenny Britt to a four-year, $32.5 million contract. <----- March 18, 2015: Los Angeles Rams re-signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year, $14 million contract. April 7, 2014: Los Angeles Rams signed WR Kenny Britt to a one-year, $1.4 million contract. September 11, 2012: Tennessee Titans lifted the suspension on WR Kenny Britt. July 25, 2012: Tennessee Titans placed WR Kenny Britt on the physically unable to perform list. February 6, 2012: Tennessee Titans has been taken off IR. September 28, 2011: Tennessee Titans placed on IR. Suspended 6 years ago. Cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 hours ago, Flugel said: 😄 Come on Lancelot - all that sniffing Britt's garbage is making you silly! There's nothing garbage about Fitzgerald's 109 receptions in his 14th NFL season in 2017 - that's why you made sure you didn't include them. Here's Fitzgerald's career stats where his average # of receptions, yards and TDs blow away Kenny Britt's. In fact, count how many times he had more than Britt's career best of 68 rec and 1002 yards. Britt had a season as good as Fitzgerald. You think that Antonio Brown could come to the Browns last year and Kizer would be Ben. Hallucinations are no laughing matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 8:17 PM, Comeonman said: Might be more productive than Miles Austin 😎 Miles Austin did not do to bad for us. Til he got hurt, Kenny Britt was the 1 laughing all the way to the bank, Oh and that Bowe guy from KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 hours ago, boo fagley said: Britt had a season as good as Fitzgerald. Hallucinations are no laughing matter. We can see that - but you're sharing them anyway so I'm 😄 Telling me 68 receptions in 2016 is as good as Larry's 107 receptions in the same year is hallucinating... As I said, Fitzgerald had 109 receptions a year later in his 14th NFL season. Thinking Britt is as good as Larry Fitzgerald is hallucinating. Britt's career stats show a disappointing 8 years of 9 and you're telling me that's all because of the 9 weeks had had to spend with Kizer in 2017 which went a lot better than 2 rec for 23 yards 0 TDs in the 3 weeks he spent w/ Brady/BB in NE. Lancelot, you got more "yeah but" than a Budweiser Frog Commercial. I'm all done with this topic. There's nothing more to say. Why don't you share your school girl crush on the guy with NE fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, Flugel said: We can see that - but you're sharing them anyway so I'm 😄 Telling me 68 receptions in 2016 is as good as Larry's 107 receptions in the same year is hallucinating... As I said, Fitzgerald had 109 receptions a year later in his 14th NFL season. Thinking Britt is as good as Larry Fitzgerald is hallucinating. Britt's career stats show a disappointing 8 years of 9 and you're telling me that's all because of the 9 weeks had had to spend with Kizer in 2017 which went a lot better than 2 rec for 23 yards 0 TDs in the 3 weeks he spent w/ Brady/BB in NE. Lancelot, you got more "yeah but" than a Budweiser Frog Commercial. I'm all done with this topic. There's nothing more to say. Why don't you share your school girl crush on the guy with NE fans. Foolgel do you understand that Britts 14 yards per reception is better than Fitzgeralds 10 yards per reception? Britt achieved virtually the same yards and TDs as a HOFer with less receptions. Im not saying that Britt is Fitzgerald, but you keep on blathering about that. Youre saying Britt is garbage and that is nonsense. Throughout Britts career he has shown flashes of being very good. Using the Browns last year as evidence that Britt is a bum is really goofy. Britt was brought in to replace Pryor who had 1000 yards in 2016. The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though. How are the Indians doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 13 hours ago, boo fagley said: Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN? Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp. His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game. 4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs 2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs 2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs. If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential. I have a compromise that hopefully both of you can agree on: BOTH Kizer and Britt sucked swamp water. OK...will that do it for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 hours ago, boo fagley said: Did you know he was a 1st round pick? So were Charles Rogers, and Jamarcus Russell.....and Mike Junkin. And a lot of other busts. Maybe he is not an epic bust like those guys were....but he was not first round talent...or production in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though. Actually...it can. If you have a QB like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady etc......you CAN just plug in a new WR and keep on winning. Those QBs have proven it. What you cannot do is to plug in a mediocre, or worse WR, and expect a losing team to start winning. (which seems to be what you are arguing about Britt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 hours ago, The Gipper said: So were Charles Rogers, and Jamarcus Russell.....and Mike Junkin. And a lot of other busts. Maybe he is not an epic bust like those guys were....but he was not first round talent...or production in his career. I never said that Britt was. He was drafted too high. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 hours ago, The Gipper said: The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though. Actually...it can. If you have a QB like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady etc......you CAN just plug in a new WR and keep on winning. Those QBs have proven it. What you cannot do is to plug in a mediocre, or worse WR, and expect a losing team to start winning. (which seems to be what you are arguing about Britt) They have to learn the teams offense and terminology. Its not that easy. No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 56 minutes ago, boo fagley said: They have to learn the teams offense and terminology. Its not that easy. No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good. Well....sure, anyone that puts on an NFL uniform, even a training camp grunt has to learn his teams terminology....and what to do at whatever position he plays. And, I suppose that he did show flashes of being good, it is why the Browns signed him. But...where were ANY of those flashes here? Nowhere clearly. John Dorsey could not wait to dump this guy. I think he did it within like 24 hours of being hired here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjp28 Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 7 hours ago, boo fagley said: They have to learn the teams offense and terminology. Its not that easy. No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good. Career TD highs and lows 9, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 0. Eh. But well paid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 8:22 AM, boo fagley said: Using the Browns last year as evidence that Britt is a bum is really goofy. Britt was brought in to replace Pryor who had 1000 yards in 2016. Thanks for the reminder. Pryor gave us over 1000 yards on a team that went 1-15 with QBs like Kessler, Whitehurst, Hogan and RG3andout. Britt came here for way more money and gave us far less effort and production with the guy that beat out Kessler. NOBODY except maybe Poe wanted Kizer replaced more than me last year. That doesn't mean Britt didn't perform anywhere near like a 1st round WR in 2015, 2104, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009. As I said before, I lived in Nashville throughout Britt's disappointing tenure on and off the field as a 1st round draft pick. THAT, not to be confused with just 9 games with Kizer, was enough of a 1st impression to justify why I think he sucks. Already told you that earlier in our discussion but it's not what your Kizer alibi wanted to hear. In a 9 year career, Britt had only 1 year that resembled 1st round performance (not to be confused with 9 forgettable weeks in Cleveland). If he wasn't on NE's roster - we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Flugel said: Thanks for the reminder. Pryor gave us over 1000 yards on a team that went 1-15 with QBs like Kessler, Whitehurst, Hogan and RG3andout. Britt came here for way more money and gave us far less effort and production with the guy that beat out Kessler. NOBODY except maybe Poe wanted Kizer replaced more than me last year. That doesn't mean Britt didn't perform anywhere near like a 1st round WR in 2015, 2104, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009. As I said before, I lived in Nashville throughout Britt's disappointing tenure on and off the field as a 1st round draft pick. THAT, not to be confused with just 9 games with Kizer, was enough of a 1st impression to justify why I think he sucks. Already told you that earlier in our discussion but it's not what your Kizer alibi wanted to hear. In a 9 year career, Britt had only 1 year that resembled 1st round performance (not to be confused with 9 forgettable weeks in Cleveland). If he wasn't on NE's roster - we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Not true at all. Just looking at Britts entire body of work. Like his 3 games with 3 TDs and approximately 300 yards. Where he was drafted is irrelevant at this point. Britt did not get a fair shake in Cleveland, but he also should not have shot his way out of town. So, I can see why you would be upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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