Louisville Slugger Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams. These are the top LBers from those teams. Mosely- good/elite Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher) Roquan Smith- above average Demario Davis- average Cory Littleton- Special teamer You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 DK Metcalf no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 A bunch of my BB picks are going tonight. I got a few steals in later rounds that will go before the 3rd is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 52 minutes ago, Louisville Slugger said: The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams. These are the top LBers from those teams. Mosely- good/elite Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher) Roquan Smith- above average Demario Davis- average Cory Littleton- Special teamer You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers Where TF are you getting your stats? Scoring defense? YPG Net Yards Per Game Leaders RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G 1 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9 2 Buffalo 4706 294.1 2867 179.2 1839 114.9 374 23.4 3 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7 4 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3 5 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8 6 Pittsburgh 5235 327.2 3697 231.1 1538 96.1 360 22.5 7 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3 8 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9 9 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6 10 Detroit 5360 335.0 3599 224.9 1761 110.1 360 22.5 edit: PPG makes your argument look even more silly with the top 10. All of those teams have some quality LB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Louisville Slugger said: Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league. I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...? You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's. He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him. One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense. Just ask Cincy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy07 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Surely its time to pull the trigger and trade up for greedy? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, chimpy07 said: Surely its time to pull the trigger and trade up for greedy? Greedy is falling further and further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...? You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's. He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him. One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense. Just ask Cincy. The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, Louisville Slugger said: Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us No love for greedy williams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, bjh2130 said: No love for greedy williams? He has potential but he is a kind of soft. If we dont land Love Moreland from James Madison is my next target at CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Louisville Slugger said: The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G 1 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7 2 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9 3 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9 4 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8 Houston 5490 343.1 4167 260.4 1323 82.7 316 19.8 6 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3 7 New England 5746 359.1 3943 246.4 1803 112.7 325 20.3 8 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6 9 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3 10 Indianapolis 5431 339.4 3805 237.8 1626 101.6 344 21.5 PPG... Out of that list you have Roquan, Trevaithan (pretty good), Mosely, Woodyard, Jack, Smith, Jaylon, Vander, Hightower, Barr and Bulter. That's a pretty solid list of names there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 I knew the Broncos were gonna find a way to get him (Lock) after they traded down with the idiot Giants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy07 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Someone's gonna look at us an think they gonna take greedy and jump us... We need to make a move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G 1 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7 2 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9 3 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9 4 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8 Houston 5490 343.1 4167 260.4 1323 82.7 316 19.8 6 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3 7 New England 5746 359.1 3943 246.4 1803 112.7 325 20.3 8 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6 9 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3 10 Indianapolis 5431 339.4 3805 237.8 1626 101.6 344 21.5 PPG... Out of that list you have Roquan, Trevaithan (pretty good), Mosely, Woodyard, Jack, Smith, Jaylon, Vander, Hightower, Barr and Bulter. That's a pretty solid list of names there. I'm not saying they aren't good I'm saying that it's more important to prioritize pass rush and secondary. Just like you dont need to have an all-pro OG just a guy is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 We made a move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvcanedy Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Greedy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Looks like Greedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Feelin greedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy07 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Boom thank u john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALCON7 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 2013 Draft... Greedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Projected 1st rounder who slipped. I'm trusting Dorsey and I really like the fact he traded up a few spots to make sure he got his guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 So the big q is why greedy dropped...was targeted as a first rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Tall, long armed press corner and needs to learn to use his hands to jam/press a lot more. No point in having that gift if you don't use it. I'm hoping to Christ our coaches focus on that day 1 and the mentality to play DB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Glad about the pick but but man Jim brown looked bad. Not trying to be funny, he looked confused like my grandpa did before he was told he had dementia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Kvoethe said: So the big q is why greedy dropped...was targeted as a first rounder Total head case, major character flags and he’s a one trick pony. He’s really good at his one trick tho and it’s man coverage. He also doesn’t tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, jrb12711 said: Glad about the pick but but man Jim brown looked bad. Not trying to be funny, he looked confused like my grandpa did before he was told he had dementia. It's a brutal game and these dudes deserve every penny they can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Vagitron said: Total head case, major character flags and he’s a one trick pony. He’s really good at his one trick tho and it’s man coverage. He also doesn’t tackle. Someone was watching ESPN and now thinks he's a draft guru. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Before we traded 17th overall pick in the obj trade I was targetting/hoping greedy would slip to 17 and we got him at 46. Phenomenal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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