MLD Woody Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, Westside Steve said: Civil unions as a perfect compromise. Even though I've always been fine with gay marriage. WSS In the case where the government calls EVERYTHING a civil unions, and then different religious institutions can call it whatever they like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: You're a liar. Woody and I agreed on it years ago. Because you're an idiot you have problems understanding that I'm not really anti-gay in the slightest bit. Matter of fact I supported gay marriage all along and the civil union was just a compromise that I thought would be okay. And of course you're under no obligation to back up any garbage that you spew, nobody respect you enough to care about your fabrication one way or the other.  WSS so testy when u get straw manned huh? except im not really sure tgsts what i did.....i seem to recall some wordage from you about there being no substantial difference between unions and marriage....☕ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Even though I've always been fine with gay marriage. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Cysko Kid Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: That's a sad way to think. Being an American Indian is quite normal and genetic. There is no perversion/morality aspect of color of skin, or heritage, or genetics. Being an American Indian doesn't mean anything perverse whatsoever. It's not a behavior choice. Now you can STFU. Shan't. As long as people like you still have a say I'll never shut up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Not gay marriage, faggot marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MLD Woody Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 You're not even putting ant heart into it anymore DieHard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 12 hours ago, MLD Woody said: In the case where the government calls EVERYTHING a civil unions, and then different religious institutions can call it whatever they like Kind of ironic, I'm to the left of you on this issue. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 58 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said: You know, I completely agree with you, for a change. Thankfully, so did the Supreme Court in 2013 when they legalized gay marriage. Both parties are well on their way to having equal rights when it comes to marriage benefits and protections, yet for some reason, calling it "marriage" infuriates you and other religious nutbags - even though their marriage doesn't affect you in the slightest. Except that, for many years, it was. And, unsurprisingly, religious zealots justified slavery and then racial segregation by use of biblical principles, so you're off on that account. nonsense. nowhere was being black "perverted". Discriminated against, sure. and I am not a "religion nutbag". I know God is there, and and I'm not "religious" at all. AGAIN, I have said for many years, on occasion - that religion is one of the worst things that ever happened to Christianity.   A lot of religious people justify stupidity etc, based on their own misunderstandings. Perversion aversion and racial discrimination - one is normal, and the latter is a disgrace. There were a lot of reasons, all bad, for whoever to try to justify slavery.   that has nothing to do with perversion. AGAIN, I have a gay brother-in-law, we didn't know it for many years. We treat him like anyone else - except will never condone the behavior, would never go to a wedding, etc. Being black is not a chosen behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 13 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: Shan't. As long as people like you still have a say I'll never shut up lol. Not much of a reasoned, informative explanation of your stance. Again, if the left demands that it can't be Biblical Marriage because they demand no Biblical influence in our laws, then the left should demand that murder be legal because of the 7th Commandment - Â Â except the left doesn't. They go by emotion, not principle. The left reverses any principle, anytime it fits their emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 14 hours ago, jbluhm86 said: Yes, ketchup is separate from catsup, but they're equal, so it's all good... misspelling of a category of a condiment is not the issue, though. You have all sorts of different brands. I never use Heinz. Hunts is the best, off hand. the left always ignores the real issue. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Kind of ironic, I'm to the left of you on this issue. WSS I mean, I'd be ok with the solution I just posted But I also think just legalizing gay marriage should be easy enough and a fine solution. That's kinda been this whole thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: I mean, I'd be ok with the solution I just posted But I also think just legalizing gay marriage should be easy enough and a fine solution. That's kinda been this whole thread what about my point about legalizing murder? You know, the 7th of the Ten Commandments? You can't have that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: lol. Not much of a reasoned, informative explanation of your stance. Again, if the left demands that it can't be Biblical Marriage because they demand no Biblical influence in our laws, then the left should demand that murder be legal because of the 7th Commandment -   except the left doesn't. They go by emotion, not principle. The left reverses any principle, anytime it fits their emotions. I would ignore you except you so hilariously lack any kind of self awareness. Its sort of the only reason I stay on Facebook. I love a good train wreck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Your only reason for any of your arguments is "it's icky. Gawd said so." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: I wound ignore you except you so hilariously lack any kind of self awareness. Its sort of the only reason I stay on Facebook. I love a good train wreck. I'm aware of me just fine. Your response is emotional knee jerk avoidance. Perhaps you are not aware you, emotional knee jerk like a liberal.  I say again, I'll ask you - Woody has no legit answer to any issue - Again, if the left demands that it can't be Biblical Marriage because they demand no Biblical influence in our laws, then the left should demand that murder be legal because of the 7th Commandment - right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 You're not at all aware that you're a caricature. a puppet on a string. You think you're an real boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 No one cares about biblical anything. The concept of marriage predates your fairy tale by thousands if not tens of thousands of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: I mean, I'd be ok with the solution I just posted But I also think just legalizing gay marriage should be easy enough and a fine solution. That's kinda been this whole thread Well it is legal. So... WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 and you can't answer the question: why did you all bring up the Bible then? Your objection is that the Bible has influence. Again, if the left demands that it can't be Biblical Marriage because they demand no Biblical influence in our laws, then the left should demand that murder be legal because of the 7th Commandment - right? the left's hypocrisy can run, but it can't hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 I don't know how many times and in how many different ways you have to be told that no one cares about the bible - in any respect - before it sticks with you. Never, I'm sure. Marriage is a legal contract. Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 The only thing that I care about the bibke us that no one has an archaic storybook dictate their very real lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: lol. Not much of a reasoned, informative explanation of your stance. Again, if the left demands that it can't be Biblical Marriage because they demand no Biblical influence in our laws, then the left should demand that murder be legal because of the 7th Commandment -   except the left doesn't. They go by emotion, not principle. The left reverses any principle, anytime it fits their emotions. There is nothing new under the sun and we are seeing many in our nation turn from God. It's happened before in human history. We see in Israel's history a period of time where they rejected God and chose to do what was right in their own sight and it always had disastrous consequences. I hate to see it happening in our country but even in Israel's history when they abandoned God and went their own way and suffered the consequences and God could no longer bless the nation he still would bless those individuals who remain faithful. There is always a remnant who stay faithful and that will be the case in our country.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Even without a legal contract - Real Marriage is real, and you all brought up attacking Christianity and the Bible. Why argue that, then say it wasn't part of the argument? You just said you don't want the Bible to dictate your life - so the question still stands: Again, if the left demands that it can't be Biblical Marriage because they demand no Biblical influence in our laws, then the left should demand that murder be legal because of the 7th Commandment - right? the left's hypocrisy can run, but it can't hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Cal...that's the stupidest argument anyone has ever made. Please stop embarrassing yourself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Just now, OldBrownsFan said: There is nothing new under the sun and we are seeing many in our nation turn from God. It's happened before in human history. We see in Israel's history a period of time where they rejected God and chose to do what was right in their own sight and it always had disastrous consequences. I hate to see it happening in our country but even in Israel's history when they abandoned God and went their own way and suffered the consequences and God could no longer bless the nation he still would bless those individuals who remain faithful. There is always a remnant who stay faithful and that will be the case in our country.     True - it's been going on for a long time - getting worse. It's why empires have fallen, and societies have fallen apart. Forcing Real Marriage to become subverted through the courts, instead of just creating civil unions - was just a vicious leftwing political slap in the face of American society. They can deny it - but it's at all fronts, any issue they can warp - they will warp it. Family values, structure. Sanctity of Innocent young life- born and unborn Consequences of bad choices, our nation's national security/borders/sovereignty our Flag, Anthem...our economic system that is the most successful on earth.... they are above the law, and can use it any way they wish.... at every turn, they want to pervert the status quo. Some kind of emotional illness, brought on by spiritual emptiness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Cysko Kid said: Cal...that's the stupidest argument anyone has ever made. Please stop embarrassing yourself. then answer the question. you are dodging. The question is valid. Put up or shut up. Again, if the left demands that it can't be Biblical Marriage because they demand no Biblical influence in our laws, then the left should demand that murder be legal because of the 7th Commandment - right? the left's hypocrisy can run, but it can't hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:    True - it's been going on for a long time - getting worse. It's why empires have fallen, and societies have fallen apart. Forcing Real Marriage to become subverted through the courts, instead of just creating civil unions - was just a vicious leftwing political slap in the face of American society. They can deny it - but it's at all fronts, any issue they can warp - they will warp it. Family values, structure. Sanctity of Innocent young life- born and unborn Consequences of bad choices, our nation's national security/borders/sovereignty our Flag, Anthem...our economic system that is the most successful on earth.... they are above the law, and can use it any way they wish.... at every turn, they want to pervert the status quo. Some kind of emotional illness, brought on by spiritual emptiness. Cal I believe we are living in the end times. What is going on today was all foretold in the bible. The signs of the times are so in the open today you have to be spiritually blind not to see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 11 hours ago, MLD Woody said: You're not even putting ant heart into it anymore DieHard Just because you say it, doesn't mean its true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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