stillmotion Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Not having him is telling. We need more of a veteran presence on D. And about the others, it's one game, look at the overall picture. OBJ, Baker, all of them, let them have a chance to prove they can bounce back. And the whole kicker deal is ridiculous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Not having him is telling. We need more of a veteran presence on D. And about the others, it's one game, look at the overall picture. OBJ, Baker, all of them, let them have a chance to prove they can bounce back. And the whole kicker deal is ridiculous. That was a bad decision. It's not like they didn't have the cap space or like there were better players here to replace him. But awful personnel mng. Make it stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Icecube said: That was a bad decision. It's not like they didn't have the cap space or like there were better players here to replace him. But awful personnel mng. Make it stop. You can thank MoneyTard and BerryBust for that ridiculous move... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Agreed. Was very surprised when much of this board was cool with his exit. We miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 But we have Malcolm in the middle now isn’t he supposed to be making up for the loss of Schobert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 I think we should have given the LB position group the same kind of treatment that the Oline position group had this past offseason. It was one of the weakest groups on our team last season. Whether the treatment was resign joe I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 I know. It really hurts. How far away could we have really been in money? Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 He got paid a lot. Easy to say this when our starting LB Mack is injured and after a really bad game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambdo Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnbHS4vOCHk#action=share Link shows Jonathon Taylor cake walking the edge against schobert last week. Not overpaying for that when you can underpay for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 If I recall?... It was not the 10.7M/year for the'show that was the issue... but, It was the 21.5M guarantee'd on a 5 year deal of 53.7M... that Berry walked away from... Anthony Barr nor Jalen Smith saw that much upfront dough on similar timed deals If the Steelers can find them? Berry better start L👀king.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzz2 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Todd Davis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 22 hours ago, gumby73 said: Berry better start L👀king.. Yeah.... Joe was good, but he wasn't great and you cannot pay everyone. The problem is not that Joe is gone... It's that we have not replaced him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Man this defense is bad. the issue I had with it, and it was touched on up above is they have the cap space AND it seemed like they had no plan to really replace him... maybe if they already had another vet but Kirksey was out the door too.....If they banked on Mack after that hot and cold season he had last year.... that’s worrisome..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Yeah the defense isn't good. I hope more playing time they will get better. Getting Greedy and Kevin Johnson back will help I hope. But the LBs and safeties leave a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Ward did look good last nite... returned to his rookie form. D overall??? Not good, to be sure, but DL rotation looks better than decent. We need Olivier to bookend MG... he was dbl-teamed a ton last nite. Back 7? Really not elite, but look at who we are missing on the field in our 2ndary. LBs... well... again missing a piece due to injury, but even with Mack the talent level just is not there. This area has to top Berry's "do List" in 2021... draft and FA. All the above said I do have to add that the effort I saw last nite impressed me. All the backups forced to play... all the vets we did sign... they were all flying to the ball all nite long. Now sometimes they started their flight too late... and sometimes they forgot to "brake it down" on final approach and missed their target... but the energy was there. And that's a good thing... Remember the D-side, too, has a new system. So give it some time. While this D as it is is not going to become great let alone dominant, it looks to me like it can become competitive under Joe Woods. And with a run game like we saw last nite that's a recipe I can get behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Isn’t clay Matthews the third still out there? I just don’t see why we can’t get someone of that caliber to play here when he was on the street. He had eight sacks last year. And I swear inexperience is part of our biggest problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 20 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Yeah.... Joe was good, but he wasn't great and you cannot pay everyone. The problem is not that Joe is gone... It's that we have not replaced him. Isn't that funny that a few of the good players we had we all named Joe? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, The Gipper said: Isn’t clay Matthews the third still out there? I just don’t see why we can’t get someone of that caliber to play here when he was on the street. He had eight sacks last year. And I swear inexperience is part of our biggest problem. I have to imagine they did some kind of outreach on that option. PR perspective...it’s a need...he was a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 In addition to being in decline Clay III is not a scheme fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 45 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: In addition to being in decline Clay III is not a scheme fit. Even in decline he may be better than what we got. As for schemes these are players they know how to fit in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 4:17 PM, stillmotion said: Not having him is telling. We need more of a veteran presence on D. And about the others, it's one game, look at the overall picture. OBJ, Baker, all of them, let them have a chance to prove they can bounce back. And the whole kicker deal is ridiculous. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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