The Gipper Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 How did the defense get so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Get so bad? When was it good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I lost count of how many 4th down stops we didn’t make last night. I don’t even need fingers to count how many 4th down stops we made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said: I lost count of how many 4th down stops we didn’t make last night. I don’t even need fingers to count how many 4th down stops we made. bagels were 8 of 18 on 3rd..and 5 out of 5 on 4ths...glad to help...our back 7 is astoundingly bad.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Injuries, departures of key secondary players. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Injuries, departures of key secondary players. Is it just that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Posted in tavern.. Mack Wilson/ Jacob Phillips/ Delpit/ Greedy/Kevin Johnson/ and sadly Billings opted out .... 10 days off 🤞.. let's get some back (toss in Njoku) we need to consider looking into faster closing speed at the Safety position... Moffett had a good Camp.. get him up off PS or get to l👀king.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Is it just that? Yep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I will say some pleasant looking things coming from the DL. I really like Richardson, and Porter Gustin looks to be a nice surprise. Heard Joe Jackson’s name a couple times too. Night and Day is a fantastic album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Injuries, departures of key secondary players. ...plus how many DCs in how many years? It ain't rocket science... except to Gipper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hish747 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Please jettison Sendejo...wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I think the lack of coaching continuity is catching up too. approach was a little disheartening last night. Let’s sit back when the Bengals haven’t shown a willingness to go downfield so far this year. And let’s not attack a rookie QB!!! Burrow when off had pressure when he time and could set his feet he was and is more accurate than most QBs. Nothing novel here just the same thing going on as it goes on with other QBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darubes Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 We finally have been able to stop the run so far after years of ineptitude against the run. So instead of not being able to stop the run we substitute not being able to stop a Tight End ( Not that we did a good job of that before. We will need to put up 30 to stay in games.Plus if we are in a less than one score game late in the fourth we are in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, hish747 said: Please jettison Sendejo...wow Yeah , Pendejo looks terrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: I lost count of how many 4th down stops we didn’t make last night. I don’t even need fingers to count how many 4th down stops we made. I remember when it was 5/5 keeping Cinci in the game. Even a few stops and they could have put the Hunt/Chubb running game back on the field to run the clock out and maybe scored even more. Every sports announcer I've seen so far that the BROWNS have the best 1-2 punch for a running game in the NFL. The both might keep either from winning the running back in yardage. -But- winning games, controlling the clock, keeping the defense off the field are all more important ! GO BROWNS... just win games, baby ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Does anyone remember Joe Schobert?... The D captain?... Losing him hurt a lot like I knew it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, nickers said: Does anyone remember Joe Schobert?... The D captain?... Losing him hurt a lot like I knew it would. Yeah you wonder why that decision was made. I was thinking maybe he had some underlying injury that the FO would know about. Maybe budgets which run a lot of things in today's world. D captain to off the team ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Tour2ma said: ...plus how many DCs in how many years? It ain't rocket science... except to Gipper. What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, The Gipper said: What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Gipper is so cute when he goes potty mouth... ... OBJ would like it tho... allegedly... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 hours ago, The Gipper said: What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers. 39 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Gipper is so cute when he goes potty mouth... ... OBJ would like it tho... allegedly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said: Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball. lol.... not all agreed with Ghoulie IIRC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: Gipper is so cute when he goes potty mouth... ... OBJ would like it tho... allegedly... You would eat it if it were on Berry’s balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Unsympathetic said: Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball. NSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 12 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Injuries, departures of key secondary players. Departure of LB'ers too. It's sad how many injuries we've had in the preseason. And we didn't even play any games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just for reference, here's how the Browns defenses fared in the four seasons with Joe Schobert: 2016: Allowed 28.3 points per game (16th out of 16 AFC teams) 2017: Allowed 25.6 points per game (15th/16) 2018: Allowed 24.5 points per game (11th/16) 2019: Allowed 24.6 points per game (12th/16) As I said before, when was this defense good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 I don't know how this is shocking. Other than All-World Ward, nobody in the back 7 can cover at all. Maybe Kevin Johnson or Greedy will help, but unless and until they get full speed, this season is going to be a lot of 35-30, 42-38, and Parkey shanking game winners. Phillips and Wilson aren't improving the pass D any.. watching Burrow pick this team apart means it's going to be a long season. They need to upgrade the pass D both at safety and LB after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 15 hours ago, gumby73 said: bagels were 8 of 18 on 3rd..and 5 out of 5 on 4ths...glad to help...our back 7 is astoundingly bad.. Yea, gonna be hard to beat good competition with that back 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: I don't know how this is shocking. Other than All-World Ward, nobody in the back 7 can cover at all. Maybe Kevin Johnson or Greedy will help, but unless and until they get full speed, this season is going to be a lot of 35-30, 42-38, and Parkey shanking game winners. Phillips and Wilson aren't improving the pass D any.. watching Burrow pick this team apart means it's going to be a long season. They need to upgrade the pass D both at safety and LB after this season. And I don't think this offense (read: Baker Mayfield) is dynamic enough to consistently put up 25-30 points a game to overcome this defense. And Greedy needs to get on the field - before he's officially considered an injury-prone player who cannot be depended upon. I believe he's missed over a 1/3 of the NFL games he's been eligible to play in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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