LondonBrown Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/.amp/news/browns-release-sheldon-richardson $10m freed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Not only do I not like this move, I HATE it. I believe it was Teddy Bruschi who famously said "The best ability is availability." Richard played every game the last two seasons. Clowney? Don't think so. I hope their thinking is bringing Sheldon back on a cheaper deal, but since they already ate a million dead cap, doesn't seem likely. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 $10m freed up For what? Like I said elsewhere, I thought they had any cap issues in hand without releasing anyone when they signed Clowney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Damn I hope Berry knows what he’s doing. Sheldon has proven himself to be a very reliable and solid DT. Always enjoyed watching him play and felt like he put everything he could into making the team better. Don’t like this at all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 How the turntables... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 I saw the news of this around 3:30.... It still makes no dam* sense, 3 hours later... You just took the 'play angriest' player from your defense.. He deserved to finish the ride thru this season.. When Myles got Covid.. It was Richardson, rallying the troops that it was "your chance to make a name" (several did)... That kind of Veteran leadership will be missed in our locker room... Wishing you well Shelton Richardson !! my late father, was right from your draft night... Good Luck #98 & stay out of the AFCN.....please 😇 #hate-it yeah twitter has gone ape/chit @AndrewBrandt The Browns waited until today, three months since their season ended, to release Sheldon Richardson. $12 million salary in "contract" turns to dust, most teams done spending. Cold business. 6:00 PM · Apr 16, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, hoorta said: Not only do I not like this move, I HATE it. I believe it was Teddy Bruschi who famously said "The best ability is availability." Richard played every game the last two seasons. Clowney? Don't think so. I hope their thinking is bringing Sheldon back on a cheaper deal, but since they already ate a million dead cap, doesn't seem likely. I absolutely agree. What's the point in having cap room? We need PLAYERS. Not only that, he was BELOVED. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 I'm not a fan of this move either. He was a good player for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 It’s a business, I’ll agree Richardson is a good player, but not 12 million dollars good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin the Martian Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 He may be worth the money if the middle of our line is butter soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 It's about the cap.. it's always about the cap. We simply didn't have the room to keep everyone after signing Clowney. [We didn't actually have room to sign Clowney] I hope at least one of these DE signings works out.. there's a couple more cuts coming. Or perhaps a bunch of the ST-only guys -- Meander, Malveaux, Derrick Willies, etc Browns salary obligations are 25.8M over the cap for 2021.. and that's after removing Richardson's contract. The number to pay attention to is "Total Cap Liabilities" - as you know the cap is 182.5. Rookies based on the wage scale are 8.9M. This doesn't include the 1-year rollover [100% of the "cap space" entry of 20.9 on OTC] so 4.9M over if nothing else was happening before season start, 13.8M over when you include the rookie pool. After this season starts everything from Sashi is dust in the wind; back to zero rollover for 2022! I'm almost certain first-round will be some DL now.. Both the short contracts of clowney/takk and the Jackson/Billings interior duo are ripe for a long-term solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, gumby73 said: The Browns waited until today, three months since their season ended, to release Sheldon Richardson. $12 million salary in "contract" turns to dust, most teams done spending. Cold business. Shocking news... and not just because we just really downgraded our DT rotation. The above tweet nails it. This is the type of move UFAs remember when it comes time to pick an employer. That said.... a resign at a lower price tag would not shock me. I can't help but believe we were trying to restructure SR's contract and he wasn't interested in doing so. Now? Even if he carries a grudge, if his choice to get paid only 60 or 70% of what he was slated to make or "retire" then we could see him return. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Shocking news... and not just because we just really downgraded our DT rotation. The above tweet nails it. This is the type of move UFAs remember when it comes time to pick an employer. That said.... a resign at a lower price tag would not shock me. I can't help but believe we were trying to restructure SR's contract and he wasn't interested in doing so. Now? Even if he carries a grudge, if his choice to get paid only 60 or 70% of what he was slated to make or "retire" then we could see him return. I hope this is it. The Browns didn't want to restructure and offered him the same deal as Higgins. They told him a figure they were comfortable with and said see what other teams offer and then come back. The only problem with this is that they could have done this when free agency started. Clowney's contract didn't put us in cap hell but cutting S.R. now sure makes it seem that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 So, I ask myself, Are we better with Clowney and no Richardson? Or were we better with Richardson and no Clowney? We were only truly better for a couple of days. Perhaps they're asking Clowney to put on about 50 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 So DTs to start rounds 1, 2 and 3?😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, Orion said: So, I ask myself, Are we better with Clowney and no Richardson? Or were we better with Richardson and no Clowney? We were only truly better for a couple of days. Perhaps they're asking Clowney to put on about 50 pounds. I don't even believe that, I liked the the DLine at this point last year better than I liked it yesterday... Then they released Richardson. Still a draft, though, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Still a draft, though, I suppose. Yeah, but I don't like, at all, creating draft needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Jackson and Elliott should be able to fill his role and we save a good amount of money. We have Billings beside them so I think we are good with a late round runs stuffer to give him a break. We are in a good position going into the draft. Maybe we need a #2 corner but I like Samuel alot and Farley might slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I prefer having Richarsson than having Clowney, so I'm not a fan of this move. And if the timing makes it harder for Richardson to land a good deal with another team, it feels like the Browns have done him dirty and I don't like that. Maybe he didn't put stellar numbers but he played a lot and made some big plays. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 don't see this as a 'Clowney vs SR'.. see this as the Money-baller's vs. getting 'my long-tooth money matters to me' players out of our room... details should surface as the norm, but, i fully believe this was a attempted re-struct that went way sideways... just a opinionated guess.. Hubbard was a re-struct of poor play with some injury... Vernon's was, long in tooth with injuries...This seems long in tooth, but with clean bill of health.. stay tuned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 8:34 PM, Tour2ma said: Shocking news... and not just because we just really downgraded our DT rotation. The above tweet nails it. This is the type of move UFAs remember when it comes time to pick an employer. That said.... a resign at a lower price tag would not shock me. I can't help but believe we were trying to restructure SR's contract and he wasn't interested in doing so. Now? Even if he carries a grudge, if his choice to get paid only 60 or 70% of what he was slated to make or "retire" then we could see him return. Interesting perspective Looks like we all really appreciated what Richardson brought here. Last year at this time I wondered how our defense could handle the loss of Schobert in what looked to be a depleted LB Corps. Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Athlon's Draft Guide : 1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'2" 305 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 13.5 TFL 5.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - (2020 stats) 9.5 TFL 8 sacks 6 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 3. Jaylen Twyman - Pittsburgh - 6'2" 295 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 10.5 TFL 10.5 sacks 2 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round. 4. Jay Tufele - USC - 6'3" 310 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 6.5 TFL 4.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - (2020 stats) 6 TFL 2 sacks 0 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Lindy's Draft Guide. 1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'3" 305 lbs Jr - 40 time 4.95 - Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. Listed as the Pass Rush Proto-type for the DT position stating: "Nixon fires off the snap like he's been shot out of a cannon, exhibiting rare flexibility to slither through gaps and close on the QB." Final Grade: 1st round 2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - 40 time 4.94 - Listed as the DT Prototype for Run Defense stating "The broad-shouldered Barmore is built like a barn door and possesses the raw strength and length to corral ballcarriers." Final Grade: 1st round 3. Marvin Wilson - Florida State - 6'4" 305 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.95 - Extremely agile with tremendous strength and ability to fire off the snap. Uses cinder block hands to break the grips of would-be blockers. Knocked down 4 passes as a junior in just 9 games and blocked 3 kicks as a senior. Writer gives him a comparison to the Eagles Fletcher Cox which is high praise especially if that's accurate. - Final Grade: 2nd round. 4. Khyiris Tonga - BYU - 6'3" 340 lbs Sr - 40 time 5.25. Very powerful player that played NG. Shows great quickness for a guy his size and will face a lot of double teams in the trenches. Listed as the Prototype for Intangibles with the following endorsement: "Overshadowed by QB Zach Wison, Tonga was the Cougars' unquestioned star on defense and stayed true to his commitment to Head Coach Kilane Sitake, following him from Utah to rival BYU." Final Grade: 2nd round 5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.96. Listed as DT Prototype for Tackling with this description: "A sleeper of sorts in this class after opting out of of the 2020 season. He recorded an impressive 45 stops in 2019 , showing terrific quickness, balance and the long arms to lasso ballcarriers." - Final Grade: 2nd/3rd round It doesn't look like there's a Big Sexy that will attract upper/mid 1st round interest here; while the Browns don't pick until #26 overall... Looks to me like we can still add a DT and LB with our 1st 2 picks... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Louisville Slugger said: Jackson and Elliott should be able to fill his role and we save a good amount of money. Elliott played some last season. I didn't see much out of him. I'm sure, as gumby and others said, it's a restructure discussion that did not come to the correct conclusion, from Berry's perspective. I don't see us drafting a DT in round 1 however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 All to do with rolling over some cash to next year to pay for Baker, Ward and Chubb ....would you rather keep the money for Richardson for 1 year and not extend one of the three I just mentioned ? Maybe we sign Maurice Hurst for a lot less..... and he had a similar PFF rating to Richardson ....I mentioned on here recently that Sheldon would be cut ......really good player but thats business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Well D line does not look so strong this draft... I'm not too sure it about this move.. I understand the money thing,, but still.. you could've used him another season before you cut bait with him... Weird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 There is an argument for moving S.R. based upon his contract, although they could have waited a year. Plus we don't know if he refused to restructure or not. The other interesting question is the timing. If the Browns are going after a DT in the draft, why couldn't they wait until after the draft to do this, instead of telegraphing their need now? That's the head-scratching part for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver slayer Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Im totally feeling it was a restructure thing between berry and the agent. Berry is playing hardball, he knows Richardson won't get a contract offer as high as he was due. I'd be highly thinking berry cut just ahead of the draft to let the draft play out then re sign him if needed at 60% or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Orion said: Elliott played some last season. I didn't see much out of him. I'm sure, as gumby and others said, it's a restructure discussion that did not come to the correct conclusion, from Berry's perspective. I don't see us drafting a DT in round 1 however. Yeah, gun to my head I still think they go either DE or CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 We now have Billings, Jackson, Elliott and Day ....Clowney can play inside too as a run stopper ..... draft needs as things stand DT x 2, DE, CB, LB, WR .... developmental QB and a TE if Njoku is traded .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I’m pretty confident we are taking a DT maybe 2 in this draft. I wouldn’t be surprised if one or both are heavily involved in the the rotation. Elliot and Day based on what I’ve seen should play very sparingly barring any major improvement. I hope we bring S. Rich back...he might not be worth 12M but he plays every week and makes some plays each game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: I’m pretty confident we are taking a DT maybe 2 in this draft. I wouldn’t be surprised if one or both are heavily involved in the the rotation. Elliot and Day based on what I’ve seen should play very sparingly barring any major improvement. I hope we bring S. Rich back...he might not be worth 12M but he plays every week and makes some plays each game. Baring SR returning I see the same thing, two DTs in the 1st 3 rounds depending upon how they fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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