Jax Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Bob806 said: Well, the Libertarians are kind of like Republicans, fiscally. RFK is a moderate Dem. I don't think some of you really want to deviate from the two parties who really just benefit from serious $$, and bicker with each other. I guess my point is the whole system is corrupt for the most part. I'm not talking deep state or any conspiracy theories. If you ever heard stories about your local gov't, like people just creating a job title out of thin air so they could have a friend come in and do nothing to make 80k+/year, that kind of corruption. All the back door deals, making bills so they can 'do good' by spending money just to get a kickback in some way. You probably can't even get into higher positions of gov't without favors and being in debt to those favors. Until we hold accountable those that are corrupt nothing will improve, instead it'll get worse. Like being over run by illegals that contribute nothing but take from our resources. The question is how do we hold them accountable? By and large, none of these people in either party care about us and less and less about our country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Browns149 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Jax said: I guess my point is the whole system is corrupt for the most part. I'm not talking deep state or any conspiracy theories. If you ever heard stories about your local gov't, like people just creating a job title out of thin air so they could have a friend come in and do nothing to make 80k+/year, that kind of corruption. All the back door deals, making bills so they can 'do good' by spending money just to get a kickback in some way. You probably can't even get into higher positions of gov't without favors and being in debt to those favors. Until we hold accountable those that are corrupt nothing will improve, instead it'll get worse. Like being over run by illegals that contribute nothing but take from our resources. The question is how do we hold them accountable? By and large, none of these people in either party care about us and less and less about our country. It’s been this way for decades. The politicians are not here to help us, unless they get rich doing it. They don’t pass legislation, to make things better, unless they get something out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 anybody who would vote for biden again.....that is a cult. like the manson groupies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nickers Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 21 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: anybody who would vote for biden again.....that is a cult. like the manson groupies. Bingo!.. Manipulated sheep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 but some will FEEEELLLLLL that it is a good idea to vote for communism, their idea of the "ultimate welfare free ride". so freaking stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 38 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: but some will FEEEELLLLLL that it is a good idea to vote for communism, their idea of the "ultimate welfare free ride". so freaking stupid. Which is exactly what they did to my Grandfather and the countless hundreds at Blieburg... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Oh look…Dementia Joe picks up another endorsement! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2024 at 5:15 PM, Browns149 said: It’s been this way for decades. The politicians are not here to help us, unless they get rich doing it. They don’t pass legislation, to make things better, unless they get something out of it. It's much, much worse since 2010, Citizens United decision. Dark money is running the major parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 19 Author Report Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, Bob806 said: It's much, much worse since 2010, Citizens United decision. Dark money is running the major parties. like communist china, russia, etc etc funneling money to the dems? 1996 United States campaign finance controversy The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy, sometimes referred to as Chinagate, was an effort by the People's Republic of China to influence domestic American politics prior to and during the Clinton administration and also involved the fundraising practices of the administration itself. While questions regarding the U.S. Wikipedia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 10 hours ago, calfoxwc said: like communist china, russia, etc etc funneling money to the dems? 1996 United States campaign finance controversy The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy, sometimes referred to as Chinagate, was an effort by the People's Republic of China to influence domestic American politics prior to and during the Clinton administration and also involved the fundraising practices of the administration itself. While questions regarding the U.S. Wikipedia yes, just one example it's far more spread out & not unique to dems ( I sure hope you realize that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 19 Author Report Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Bob806 said: yes, just one example it's far more spread out & not unique to dems ( I sure hope you realize that) well, a little bit true - but you shouldn't equate 75 percent dems and 10 percent reps. "both do it" doesn't fly when you look at the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 19 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: well, a little bit true - but you shouldn't equate 75 percent dems and 10 percent reps. "both do it" doesn't fly when you look at the numbers. They do both do it. Soros (Dems), Koch Brothers (Rs) probably the biggest donors/influencers out there. Once again, who's GREAT/FANTASTIC idea was the Citizens United case again? Yeah, the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, calfoxwc said: well, a little bit true - but you shouldn't equate 75 percent dems and 10 percent reps. "both do it" doesn't fly when you look at the numbers. you believe that only 10% of republicans do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 5 hours ago, calfoxwc said: well, a little bit true - but you shouldn't equate 75 percent dems and 10 percent reps. "both do it" doesn't fly when you look at the numbers. That's adorable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 I was guessing = making a point. any reason to disagree other than trolling, bitching and wanting to be whoreta's boyfriend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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