Anti-Israel mobs sweep across elite universities just before Passover

[FY56]

Now here are some college students that would be more likely to answer the simple questions like which president freed the slaves, how many states there are in the US. and who fought in the Revolutionary War. 

Regardless, there is little antisemitism and most of protests have been peaceful.

Right Woody?

[LogicIsForSquares]

1. 
   For reference HR 6090 will be using the IHRA contemporary definition of antisemitism that includes talking about Jewish involvement in the death of Christ.

 

1. Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
2. Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
3. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
4. Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
5. Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
6. Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
7. Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
8. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
9. Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
10. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
11. Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

[calfoxwc]

[calfoxwc]

[MLD Woody]

7 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

Cal, the IDF has bombed refugee camps

You're a moron 

[MLD Woody]

11 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said:

 

1. 
   For reference HR 6090 will be using the IHRA contemporary definition of antisemitism that includes talking about Jewish involvement in the death of Christ.

 

1. Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
2. Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
3. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
4. Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
5. Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
6. Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
7. Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
8. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
9. Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
10. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
11. Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

Jesus (not killed by Jews) Christ.

That's incredibly excessive. Imagine if this was applied to all groups legally. 

[MLD Woody]

16 minutes ago, FY56 said:

Now here are some college students that would be more likely to answer the simple questions like which president freed the slaves, how many states there are in the US. and who fought in the Revolutionary War. 

Don't overestimate frat bros

[FY56]

6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Don't overestimate frat bros

Maybe you shouldn't underestimate frat boys.

[FY56]

18 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Jesus (not killed by Jews) Christ.

That's incredibly excessive. Imagine if this was applied to all groups legally. 

That I would have to somewhat agree, he was killed by the Jews except that the only reason it's ever brought up is to spew anti-jew rhetoric.

 

[MLD Woody]

8 minutes ago, FY56 said:

That I would have to somewhat agree, he was killed by the Jews except that the only reason it's ever brought up is to spew anti-jew rhetoric.

 

Would it be antisemitism for a church to mention that in mass? Or in private Christian school?

[FY56]

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

Would it be antisemitism for a church to mention that in mass? Or in private Christian school?

No priest in any Catholic church I've ever attended has ever made the topic of a sermon be about Jews killing Jesus.

So if any rouge priest should happen to start now, then yes it would be antisemitism because it would be no other reason to start peaching about it now considering what's been happening.

Funny you said mass. If you had said "service" I would have said that I wouldn't doubt if there were some black Baptist churches that already openly preach antisemitism and have no reservations about reminding the congregation that the Jews killed Jesus.

Surely you remember it was "The Reverend" Jessie Jackson who referred to NYC as "Hymetown" and recall the "reverend" Al Sharpton history of anti- Jewish hate speech.

Although not Baptist let's not forget Obamas "spiritual" mentor, "The Reverend" Jerimiah Wright.

[VaporTrail]

15 minutes ago, FY56 said:

No priest in any Catholic church I've ever attended has ever made the topic of a sermon be about Jews killing Jesus.

So if any rouge priest should happen to start now, then yes it would be antisemitism because it would be no other reason to start peaching about it now considering what's been happening.

Funny you said mass. If you had said "service" I would have said that I wouldn't doubt if there were some black Baptist churches that already openly preach antisemitism and have no reservations about reminding the congregation that the Jews killed Jesus.

Surely you remember it was "The Reverend" Jessie Jackson who referred to NYC as "Hymetown" and recall the "reverend" Al Sharpton history of anti- Jewish hate speech.

Although not Baptist let's not forget Obamas "spiritual" mentor, "The Reverend" Jerimiah Wright.

You've never heard a sermon about the hypocrisy of the pharisees?

[FY56]

42 minutes ago, VaporTrail said:

You've never heard a sermon about the hypocrisy of the pharisees?

No sorry.

[VaporTrail]

15 minutes ago, FY56 said:

No sorry.

I am calling bullshit. Jesus calling out their hypocrisy was the sermon topic for like a quarter of my church attendance as a kid. Who do you think the moneychangers were that he was driving from the temple? Which religious leaders were pissed about it and cried to the Romans to crucify the guy stirring shit up? 

It was the Pharisees, who were the precursor to modern day Rabbinic Judaism. It's why Pete Buttigieg got accused of antisemitism for using the term "Pharisee" to describe Pence being a hypocrite. And Buttigieg apologized and swore to never offend with that word again after it got him in hot water. Ridiculous. 

[FY56]

12 hours ago, VaporTrail said:

I am calling bullshit. Jesus calling out their hypocrisy was the sermon topic for like a quarter of my church attendance as a kid. Who do you think the moneychangers were that he was driving from the temple? Which religious leaders were pissed about it and cried to the Romans to crucify the guy stirring shit up? 

It was the Pharisees, who were the precursor to modern day Rabbinic Judaism. It's why Pete Buttigieg got accused of antisemitism for using the term "Pharisee" to describe Pence being a hypocrite. And Buttigieg apologized and swore to never offend with that word again after it got him in hot water. Ridiculous. 

Ah yes when Jesus got pissed at those traders doing business in a holy place. That was like 6th grade catechism stuff.

 No shit the Jews called for Christ to be crucified.. That aint the point.

Woody asked me if it would be considered antisemitism it the church mentioned Jews killing Christ.

Antisemitism as you know is hatred of Jews. The church doesn't make it a point that it was the Jews that killed Jesus.

"The Jews killed Christ" is not the message that this parable is trying to get across. Another indicator is that the word "Jew" is not used.

I may be wrong but it seems that the word Jew is never mentioned when it is associated with something negative, as in the crucifixion.

When the word Jew arises it's always associated with something positive or neutral, never in a negative light...as in the admission that the Jews were the chosen ones, the first ones to come to know the one true God.

Now that there is what I've heard mentioned many times in church.

 

 

 

 

[calfoxwc]

8 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Cal, the IDF has bombed refugee camps

You're a moron 

again, you can't fight a war and not have civilian/refugee casualites when hamas hides in hospitals, schools, and refugee campes.

Your posts reflect acute ignorance. Learn some freaking history.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/10/31/israel-admits-striking-refugee-camp-says-it-targeted-and-killed-hamas-commander/?sh=3b41589f2ee2

Israel Admits Striking Refugee Camp—Says It Targeted And Killed Hamas Commander

[FY56]

9 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

again, you can't fight a war and not have civilian/refugee casualites when hamas hides in hospitals, schools, and refugee campes.

Your posts reflect acute ignorance. Learn some freaking history.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/10/31/israel-admits-striking-refugee-camp-says-it-targeted-and-killed-hamas-commander/?sh=3b41589f2ee2

Israel Admits Striking Refugee Camp—Says It Targeted And Killed Hamas Commander

This looks like this will do more to support the rhetoric that comes from the haters Cal.

The first thing I wanted to know was the name of the Hamas commander killed. No name given. If Israeli intelligence says the camp was harboring a Hamas commander, then you would think they also knew who he was by name.

But then maybe not. You don't have to know the name of person if you witnessed him commit a crime.

 

[VaporTrail]

18 hours ago, LogicIsForSquares said:

 

1. 
   For reference HR 6090 will be using the IHRA contemporary definition of antisemitism that includes talking about Jewish involvement in the death of Christ.

 

1. Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
2. Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
3. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
4. Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
5. Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
6. Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
7. Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
8. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
9. Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
10. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
11. Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

You can accuse evangelical Christian of being more loyal to Israel than the US, and that is honky dory. But if you suggest the same of a Jewish person, then you have committed a crime in the eyes of the House. 

I suspect it will pass the Senate too. Can't wait for this unconstitutional legislation to be vetoed by Biden or struck down by SCOTUS. 

This idiocy is what $100M from AIPAC buys them. Ironically enough, it will probably INCREASE antisemitism.  Germany passed laws like this in the 1920s, I assume, it pissed a bunch of people off and we all know what happened in the 1930s.

Honk honk 🤡

[LogicIsForSquares]

6 minutes ago, VaporTrail said:

You can accuse evangelical Christian of being more loyal to Israel than the US, and that is honky dory. But if you suggest the same of a Jewish person, then you have committed a crime in the eyes of the House. 

I suspect it will pass the Senate too. Can't wait for this unconstitutional legislation to be vetoed by Biden or struck down by SCOTUS. 

Honk honk 🤡

I also don’t think the folks behind this legislation understand the internet or how trolls work. The second you tell people that you want special treatment, circumventing the 1st Amendment, autists will work furiously to test the bounds of that law.

[VaporTrail]

10 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said:

I also don’t think the folks behind this legislation understand the internet or how trolls work. The second you tell people that you want special treatment, circumventing the 1st Amendment, autists will work furiously to test the bounds of that law.

The problem for AIPAC and the ADL is that it's no longer just autists. What some people here are incapable of understanding is that the world now is not the world they grew up in. The ADL is the boy who cried wolf. They've literally accused, bullied, and coerced politicians on both sides of the aisle, including former president Trump, If you don't acknowledge that this 👌 is a dog whistle for white supremacy, then you're an antisemite. 

If you call everyone an antisemite, then the word loses its meaning. Thankfully, people are finally wising up to this entitled behavior and calling it out for what it is. Can't say I have an ounce of sympathy for the all the ire that's directed toward AIPAC and the ADL. They've certainly earned it. 

[MLD Woody]

10 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

again, you can't fight a war and not have civilian/refugee casualites when hamas hides in hospitals, schools, and refugee campes.

Your posts reflect acute ignorance. Learn some freaking history.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/10/31/israel-admits-striking-refugee-camp-says-it-targeted-and-killed-hamas-commander/?sh=3b41589f2ee2

Israel Admits Striking Refugee Camp—Says It Targeted And Killed Hamas Commander

They are literal refugees. Any number of civilian deaths is ok as long as the IDF says it killed someone in Hamas?

We get it, you're with the right wing Israeli government in thinking that Palestinians are sub human, but you don't have to be so obvious about it. 

 

 

Cal, if a school shooter barricades themselves in a school with student hostages, do you bomb the school, kill everyone, and claim victory because you got the school shooter?

[MLD Woody]

12 hours ago, FY56 said:

Ah yes when Jesus got pissed at those traders doing business in a holy place. That was like 6th grade catechism stuff.

 No shit the Jews called for Christ to be crucified.. That aint the point.

Woody asked me if it would be considered antisemitism it the church mentioned Jews killing Christ.

Antisemitism as you know is hatred of Jews. The church doesn't make it a point that it was the Jews that killed Jesus.

"The Jews killed Christ" is not the message that this parable is trying to get across. Another indicator is that the word "Jew" is not used.

I may be wrong but it seems that the word Jew is never mentioned when it is associated with something negative, as in the crucifixion.

When the word Jew arises it's always associated with something positive or neutral, never in a negative light...as in the admission that the Jews were the chosen ones, the first ones to come to know the one true God.

Now that there is what I've heard mentioned many times in church.

 

 

 

 

Is it not a historical fact though that Jewish people called for Christ to be killed and then killed him? The priest doesn't need to be all "Jews are evil cuz they killed Jeeeesus!". I'm just talking about staying fact. That's now antisemitism?

[Canton Dawg]

5 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Is it not a historical fact though that Jewish people called for Christ to be killed and then killed him? The priest doesn't need to be all "Jews are evil cuz they killed Jeeeesus!". I'm just talking about staying fact. That's now antisemitism?

It was actually Pontius Pilate a Roman prefect that presided over Jesus’ trial and ordered the crucifixion.

[VaporTrail]

2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

It was actually Pontius Pilate a Roman prefect that presided over Jesus’ trial and ordered the crucifixion.

Right, which is why I said

22 hours ago, VaporTrail said:

Which religious leaders were pissed about it and cried to the Romans to crucify the guy stirring shit up? 

But the chief priests stirred up the crowd to have him release for them Barabbas instead. -Mark 15:11

The writers of the gospels were no fans of the Pharisees - they were clearly the biggest antagonist in the stories of Jesus. Here's all the things that were said about that religious group

https://www.openbible.info/topics/pharisees

[calfoxwc]

9 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

(peck, peck, really asinine pecking)

Cal, if a school shooter barricades themselves in a school with student hostages, do you bomb the school, kill everyone, and claim victory because you got the school shooter?

please stop being stupid. A school shooter is not a war, stupidass.

No one thinks "palestinians" are subhuman. Nobody.

You invented that because you are a coward, you're extremely ignorant, and can't take part in any discussion in a legitimate way.

Again, you have just made yourself look like an ass.

[DieHardBrownsFan1]

9 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

They are literal refugees. Any number of civilian deaths is ok as long as the IDF says it killed someone in Hamas?

We get it, you're with the right wing Israeli government in thinking that Palestinians are sub human, but you don't have to be so obvious about it. 

 

 

Cal, if a school shooter barricades themselves in a school with student hostages, do you bomb the school, kill everyone, and claim victory because you got the school shooter?

Hamas uses civilians (really sympathizers) as human shields.  Pay attention to detail dimwit.

[DieHardBrownsFan1]

Muslim members of the Waffen SS.  Kind of like today.

 

[calfoxwc]

https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/bringthemhomenow

[MLD Woody]

18 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

please stop being stupid. A school shooter is not a war, stupidass.

No one thinks "palestinians" are subhuman. Nobody.

You invented that because you are a coward, you're extremely ignorant, and can't take part in any discussion in a legitimate way.

Again, you have just made yourself look like an ass.

One Hamas general is hiding in a Palestinian school. What is the over/under on number of children killed in the bombing where it is worth it to get that general? 

 

A school shooter is not a war, congrats cal, great job! On both instances you want to get the bad guy and in both examples children die as a result. 

Just wondering how your math changes between each scenario 

[VaporTrail]

3 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

One Hamas general is hiding in a Palestinian school. What is the over/under on number of children killed in the bombing where it is worth it to get that general? 

 

A school shooter is not a war, congrats cal, great job! On both instances you want to get the bad guy and in both examples children die as a result. 

Just wondering how your math changes between each scenario 

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

This report worth reading as it actually discusses the IDF's answers to your questions. Their reliance on AI is troubling, to say the least.