BrownIndian Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 As the story goes, Edwards started the trash talking to begin with, not the other way around. By your logic, if someone starts talking crap to you, and you decide to defend yourself, you should get punched According to Mr Givens quotes he coms and starts trash talking which i find strange .. why would someone all of a sudden come and start talking trash to a mr givens whom nobody has ever heard of ? There is more to this story than what is being reported for sure. I woul d rather wait for the police report to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Just some more evolved than others (in this case, looking like BE is the less evolved one) So if 2 donkeys are fighting why care about the light weight one that got itself kicked ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 According to Mr Givens quotes he coms and starts trash talking which i find strange .. why would someone all of a sudden come and start talking trash to a mr givens whom nobody has ever heard of ? There is more to this story than what is being reported for sure. I woul d rather wait for the police report to come out. I don't find it strange, especially if BE has some issue w/ Lebron. We are talking about BE who parked in a handicap spot and was classy enough to swat a basketball hard into Dana Jacobs face in a game for charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedawg Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Braylon "Brick hands" Edwards could learn a thing or two about professionalism from Mr. James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I don't find it strange, especially if BE has some issue w/ Lebron. We are talking about BE who parked in a handicap spot and was classy enough to swat a basketball hard into Dana Jacobs face in a game for charity. Dude these are minor misdemeanors. I dont think that is good enough for me to call it quits with BE. If he is going to be traded let it be for his lack of production or TO like team destruction , not cos he punched LeBron's friend in his face or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW Ohio Brownie Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Edwards is as good as gone at the end of this year anyway. Don't trade him, don't waive him. Play him. That's right. Play him. He's in a contract year and he's killing himself right now with his performances. Hopefully, he'll come to that realization and give this franchise a few more good games before he skips town. And as far as LeBron goes, his comments on the story are another gallon of gas in Braylon's car ride out of town. Edwards' departure at the end of this season will be another addition by subtraction situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedawg Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Why doesn't BE just shoot himself in the leg at clubs like normal WRs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegasdogg Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm not buying this yet. You telling me the only think BE didn't drop Sunday was a 130lb guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darubes Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Why can't Braylon be like Gerard Warren and just smoke some weed and have guns around him? Then he could have been arrested in Cleveland. Kokinis like Policy could have said that the arresting officer called him "the nicest person I have ever arrested." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm not buying this yet. You telling me the only think BE didn't drop Sunday was a 130lb guy? I was with you earlier, but after hearing WKNRs reporter talk about it, and him talking about people he knows who were there that are telling him the same story, I think there is far more truth than rumor to this one. Alcohol can make some people do some dumb things. Especially someone who might be upset about something else that occured earlier in their day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor1414 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I was with you earlier, but after hearing WKNRs reporter talk about it, and him talking about people he knows who were there that are telling him the same story, I think there is far more truth than rumor to this one. Alcohol can make some people do some dumb things. Especially someone who might be upset about something else that occured earlier in their day. I have to back masters here. I drink a ridiculous amount and I do a ton of dumb things on a fairly regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 This incident is another example of why it's time to cut ties with Edwards after this year (or before). If you're one of the highest paid players on the team and you're going to do stupid stuff like this and be immature, then you'd BETTER be a star player. Edwards isn't. He is incredibly athletic, but he's proven time and again that he takes almost as much as he gives, and his lack of maturity is flashing in neon. I think, given the right system and a strong, quality core around him to keep him in line, BE could be very productive. That kind of situation won't be in Cleveland at least for the next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumcrazy73 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...aylon/#comments LeBron calls out Braylon Posted by Mike Florio on October 5, 2009 5:32 PM ET Earlier today, a man who claims that Browns receiver Braylon Edwards beat him up attributed the trouble to jealously that Edwards has for Cleveland Cavaliers star LeBron James. And now James is wading into the dispute. And, in other words, it's getting goooooood. "I've never crossed paths with Braylon before, but it seems like there's a little jealousy going on with Braylon and me and my friends," James said Monday, per the Associated Press. "I have no idea why. I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense." More importantly for Edwards, his boss responded to the situation on Monday. And coach Eric Mangini, who has been fining guys for parking-space infractions and water-bottle violations, doesn't sound happy. "I know there is an incident that has been reported with Braylon Edwards, it's something that I am aware of," Mangini said Monday. "It is something that I spoke with Braylon about and personal conduct is very important to me. I always want our players to put themselves in the most positive positions. This is something I will continue to gather information on." Edwards had zero catches in Sunday's overtime loss to the Browns. Per the AP, it's the first time that Edwards failed to make a reception in his entire career. UPDATE: The Cleveland Plain Dealer has more from LeBron, who attempts to educate LeBrown on one what it means to be a pro athlete. "I know how to handle myself as a professional athlete and I take care of my friends and my family. It is unfortunate that some guys don't understand that. You are a role model to kids and you should carry yourself that way on and off the field. And I carry that. I'm not going to do anything to jeopardize myself or my family. I'm one of the guys that look at being a professional athlete at more than just being out on the court." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Fantastic! This should definitely get him benched and we can see what we have in our young wr's! Glad LBJ did this, and hope he feels pitty on us and signs as a wr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 way better article: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4534215 BEREA, Ohio -- Braylon Edwards was fighting mad Sunday, exchanging a few blows with one of Cincinnati's massive defensive linemen. Later, Cleveland's contentious wide receiver allegedly took a swing at someone much smaller but with a towering, more famous friend: LeBron James. And the King isn't happy about it. James called Edwards "childish" for allegedly punching his friend early Monday morning following an argument outside a Cleveland night club. The Cavaliers superstar said Edwards punched his friend, Edward Givens, a promoter who was working outside the club around 2:30 a.m. EDT. “ I've never crossed paths with Braylon before, but it seems like there's a little jealousy going on with Braylon and me and my friends. I have no idea why. I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense. ” -- LeBron James "I've never crossed paths with Braylon before, but it seems like there's a little jealousy going on with Braylon and me and my friends. I have no idea why," a protective and perturbed James said after practice. "I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense." Edwards was not available for comment Monday as the Browns regrouped following their 23-20 overtime loss at home to the Cincinnati Bengals. He did post a message on his Twitter account, offering praise to James, the NBA's reigning MVP. "I have no issue with LeBron," Edwards tweeted. "I respect and admire him." James said he was home when the alleged fight occurred, but got a call from Givens telling him about it at 7 a.m. Monday. "The situation is very sensitive right now, but it's unfortunate that it happened," James said. "Hopefully my friend is doing well." Edwards faces possible disciplinary action from the Browns and the league. The Plain Dealer first reported the incident on its Web site, cleveland.com. According to a police incident report, Givens accused an unidentified man of punching him in the face following an argument at approximately 2:30 a.m. Givens, who is listed as 5-foot-7, 135 pounds on the report, said the 6-foot-3, 215-pound Edwards hit him with a closed fist. He told police he suffered a black eye and cut and was treated at a hospital. Braylon Edwards Edwards Edwards' name did not appear on the report. He was not arrested and there are no charges pending against him. His manager issued a statement, hoping to soothe any perceived bitterness or rivalry between two of Cleveland's biggest sports stars. "Braylon has nothing but the highest respect for LeBron James as an athlete and person," Hayes Grooms said. Browns coach Eric Mangini was aware of the alleged altercation and said he spoke with Edwards, who did not catch a pass in Sunday's loss -- the first time in 62 career games he did not have at least one reception. "Personal conduct is very important to me," said Mangini, who has drawn criticism for fining players this season for breaking team rules. "I always want our players to put themselves in the most positive positions. This is something I will continue to gather information on." Edwards, who has a long list of off-field issues since being drafted by the Browns with the No. 3 overall pick in 2005, was not in Cleveland's locker room during the portion open to the media. On Sunday, he drew a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct after getting tangled up with Bengals defensive lineman Pat Sims following a pile-up near the end zone in the third quarter. He was the last Browns player to leave the locker room and Edwards spent several minutes after the game chatting in the corridor with Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco. Edwards later went to View Ultralounge & Nightclub, a downtown hot spot located near Quicken Loans Arena. Givens told the newspaper's Web site that he was outside greeting people when Edwards approached him. "Braylon comes up and started saying things, degrading me," Givens said. "He said if it wasn't for LeBron [James] or the Four Horsemen [James' friends and business partners], I wouldn't have what I have, nor would I be able to get girls. Everyone knows Braylon has a problem with LeBron. "I had to speak up for myself. The conversation started to escalate. As some of his teammates started to pull him back, he punched me. As long as I've known Braylon, I've allowed him and his friends to come into our events free of charge. Whatever jealousy he has with LeBron, he felt he needed to take it out on me." The immensely talented Edwards, who is in the final year of his contract with Cleveland, has been a headache for much of his time with the Browns. While recovering from a foot injury -- he cut his heel running in his socks after practice -- last year, he was pulled over in his Bentley for driving 120 mph in a 65 mph zone. He has dropped passes, criticized Cleveland's play-calling, argued with teammates and famously took a helicopter to the Ohio State-Michigan game in 2006 despite being told not to go. Edwards was also out partying in March with teammate Donte' Stallworth, who later that night struck and killed a a 59-year-old pedestrian while driving drunk in Miami. Stallworth has been suspended for the season. Mangini is trying to instill discipline to the Browns, many of whom took advantage of former coach Romeo Crennel's good-natured ways. Mangini wants his players to be accountable on and off the field. "The thing I love talking about is how much they're doing in the community, who they're helping, how they're playing, all of those positive things," he said. "Sometimes things happen and you address them and you work to find out the best course of action, but the important thing for all of us is to be the best Cleveland Browns we can be." For all his worldwide adulation, James has managed to keep a squeaky clean image. Without naming Edwards, he said he wished others would follow suit. "I know how to handle myself as a professional athlete," James said. "I take care of my friends and my family. It's unfortunate that some guys don't understand you're a role model to kids and you should carry [yourself] that way, on and off the court, on and off the field. "I'm one of the guys that looks at being a professional athlete as more than just being out on the court." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmreaper3 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Fantastic! This should definitely get him benched and we can see what we have in our young wr's! Glad LBJ did this, and hope he feels pitty on us and signs as a wr I hope god takes pity on us and makes sure he doesn't. Let's see, a WR for our QB to not throw to, or the solitary hope for a Cleveland championship this decade? He'd be a great football player, as his particular build is unrivaled in any sport. However, he's decent at his current sport. Let's try that project to see if it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I hope god takes pity on us and makes sure he doesn't. Let's see, a WR for our QB to not throw to, or the solitary hope for a Cleveland championship this decade? He'd be a great football player, as his particular build is unrivaled in any sport. However, he's decent at his current sport. Let's try that project to see if it works out. cant we have both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmreaper3 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I just now realized I'm taking this seriously. Alright, I was about to retort with 'Let's trot him out and have Anderson throw over his head on a slant route.' Then I realized the absurdity of the conversation. LBJ for Cleveland Browns Josh Cribbs redux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gips Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Edwards was looking for trouble in the game yesterday i guess he took it onto the street with him...and beat up some little 130 pound guy in my mind its bench time followed by a trade to anywhere for anything this disease must go the team will function better on the field without him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumcrazy73 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 IF we are going to trade him, either RB or RG or CB but not for a scrub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 LeBrowns Talk about Fantasy Football, nobody would even remember Bernie Kosar's name if LeBron led the Browns to a Championship. Okay, i'm awake now....... it was just a dream.(but a good one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Was this whole thing linked? If not, here it is. Lebron sounds pissed... and he's right about how to carry yourself. Lebron ain't gonna be at a party after a loss at 2:30 a.m., looking to start something. This is what James said: He's (Givens) a good friend of mine. The situation is sensitive right now. But it is unfortunate. Hopefully my friend is doing well at this point. It is unfortunate when something like this happens at someone's work place. My friend, that is where he works, and it is unfortunate that it happened there. I've never crossed paths with Braylon before but it seems like there is a little jealously going on with Braylon and me and my friends. I have no idea why. I've never said anything to Braylon at all. For him to do that I think is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds, seriously it is like hitting one of my kids or something like that. It doesn't make sense but the right people will take care of it. It hits home for me when I hear something like that at 7 a.m. in the morning when I get up for work. I know how to handle myself as a professional athlete and I take care of my friends and my family. It is unfortunate that some guys don't understand that. You are a role model to kids and you should carry yourself that way on and off the field. And I carry that. I'm not going to do anything to jeopardize myself or my family. I'm one of the guys that look at being a professional athlete at more than just being out on the court. I do beleive A Cav has just called out a Browns for being an azzhat punk. LeBron has basically let Lerner know what a peice of property he has in Edwards.(one with declining value) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millersc Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Braylon has enough energy to party and get into fist fights after playing a pro footbal game? Thats some poop there! I only went to the game and tailgated and was out buy 10PM. Guess he didn't play hard enough to have all this extra energy.. And they traded Winslow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkandstoopid Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Edwards was looking for trouble in the game yesterday i guess he took it onto the street with him...and beat up some little 130 pound guy in my mind its bench time followed by a trade to anywhere for anything this disease must go the team will function better on the field without him... they need to ship him to Seattle for a second rounder & a belintnekof winner sitting on their practice squad that caught DA's rockets for 3 years with maybe, if that, a drop or two in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmreaper3 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I do beleive A Cav has just called out a Browns for being an azzhat punk. LeBron has basically let Lerner know what a peice of property he has in Edwards.(one with declining value) I was meaning to say that. Essentially, you have the most beloved person in Cleveland, whose off-the-court antics have been nearly crystal-clean, ripping on a Browns player. If that doesn't turn public opinion on a guy, I don't think anything will. Not that it matters with Mangini at the helm, for better or for worse. But Braylon had better thank his lucky stars that he's a good football player, because running for public office, I imagine that he would have a very high name recognition but a very low approval rating. *That* bodes poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Next Year?! Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 who cares.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJokersWILD Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 they need to ship him to Seattle for a second rounder & a belintnekof winner sitting on their practice squad that caught DA's rockets for 3 years with maybe, if that, a drop or two in that time. Nope, ship him to Oakland, that turd deserves to be in the NFL toilet. Oakland is his punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobalaz Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Riding Shotgun has a whole new meaning I thought we were just joking about Browns players, no need to drag Maurice Clarett into this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'd trade him now for a backup RT. Way, way too bad we didn't trade him right before or during the draft. A second rounder? Wow, that would be great next year. He needs to be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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