Legacy Fan Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Let's see how many balls you catch in triple coverage. Signed, Braylon Edwards (Our coach is horrible.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefellswoop7 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Let's see how many balls you catch in triple coverage. Signed, Braylon Edwards (Our coach is horrible.) He caught a few in tough double coverage. I sure hope he is up for the challange. Leon Hall couldn't have played him any tighter and he gained 148 yards... (side note: BE was NEVER triple teamed lol) I'm dying to know what the draft picks are...BE would have walked at the season's end anyway. With a season all but over we miught as well build on what we have and get rid of a bad egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Furry is going to reap the benefits of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 He caught a few in tough double coverage. I sure hope he is up for the challange. Leon Hall couldn't have played him any tighter and he gained 148 yards... (side note: BE was NEVER triple teamed lol) I'm dying to know what the draft picks are...BE would have walked at the season's end anyway. With a season all but over we miught as well build on what we have and get rid of a bad egg. You wont be too excited about the draft picks ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumAssWhiteGuy Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Furry is going to reap the benefits of this. What about Robiskie? Does this mean he will be out of Mangini's Dawg House soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damajuki Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 C'mon, Leg, this is great news and you know it. BE was a non-entity. Do you really think he helped MoMass last week? I honestly don't. He's not a Mangini guy and never would be. This is the definition of addition by subtraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 While I agree this is going to make life more difficult for Momass. Do you really believe our coach is horrible for trading a guy who wasn't going to be here anyway next year, was just the biggest moron for creation on the night AFTER a loss, and might very well get suspended? I know I know, everyone is going to tell me Edwards was our only "playmaker" on offense, the only guy with any talent blah blah blah. IF Mangini got two players and at lease one of the two reported picks is a second rounder? I'll say he made a great move. We don't know BE would not be in CLE next year. With no new CBA, Edwards was going to be a RFA, not a URFA. So CLE could tender him a 1st and a 3rd if they wanted. They'd also have matching rights on any offer BE got. Chance are good he'd be gone, but I don't know if this was really a good move at this point. I am certainly curious to see how the offense goes now, w/o BE on one side attracting saftey help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 C'mon, Leg, this is great news and you know it. BE was a non-entity. Do you really think he helped MoMass last week? I honestly don't. He's not a Mangini guy and never would be. This is the definition of addition by subtraction. Of course he helped MoMass last week. MoMass was seeing single coverage w/o saftey help, because teams roll coverages toward BE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumAssWhiteGuy Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 well that's what I am saying I guess. even if you went that 1st and 3rd route, he's still gone. I doubt they would have matched the offer to keep a guy who CLEARLY does not want to be here. I think this for sure hurts the offense in the short term, no question. but I think this helps the TEAM in the long run. I doubt anyone would have given us a 1 & 3 after the season to sign him if he is a RFA, glad Chansi Stuckey part of the deal - the guy can play. It will be interesting to see what picks they got with this deal to say one way or the other if it was good. A good deal for us I think would be a 2 & 5 and the two players they got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 well that's what I am saying I guess. even if you went that 1st and 3rd route, he's still gone. I doubt they would have matched the offer to keep a guy who CLEARLY does not want to be here. I think this for sure hurts the offense in the short term, no question. but I think this helps the TEAM in the long run. After this weekend incident, you are probably right that CLE wouldn't match. We'll just have to see what the picks really are and how the guys they got do. But I am leary of this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greythan Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 The rotation of safety help to BE's side of the field last week wasn't even masked by the Bengals. I was there and most of the time the strong safety was closer to the los and the free safety was rotated on top of BE. Doesn't matter as we're 0-4 and not going anywhere this year and weren't likely to resign BE. Probably a shrewd move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefellswoop7 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 While MoMass definately reaped the benefits of having a BE type reciever across from him...lets not sleep on him going forward. When you're a high 2nd rounder you're expected to produce. I guess I wasn't surprised to see him rack up some yards last game. He was picked because he is 6'2 and extremely athletic (tons of upside). He has good hands and as he gets used to the speeed of the NFL game he should continue to progress. I said it earlier. He caught a few balls with Leon Hall on his back and a safety over the top as well. Just check out his reel on NFL.com We're sticking to the plan. Edwards was only here for the year and MoMass/Robiskie were brought in to compete and make his departure welcomed...it just came a bit sooner than we as fans expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Definitely a shrewd move. Yes BE's off-the-field shennanigans are a distraction, and his actual play is inconsistent at best (ranging from super-human to super-terrible), there is no denying the value he brings to this team and this offense off the ball. In a related note, the Browns will be wearing the Brown pants for the remainder of the season as the stain DA placed in his has been unable to be removed ever since heard the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegasdogg Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 This I agree with. heck even if the defense was guarding Momass and Edwards evenly, that helped Momass. Now you have Furrey, Robiskie and maybe Chancey Stuckey as your choices opposite Momass? Who are they gonna scare? You havent seen this group play yet. Lets face it until Momass came out last week, who the fook did he scare? Now he and Harrison are the cute pickups in fantasy. Lets play these last 12 games. You just may go into the offseason riding high on the possibilites and the coach/team. Mangini bought himself 3 more weeks with me because of that performance last week. I want to continue to see improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegasdogg Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 There are some MoMass highlights in here, plus the INT from DA on the goalline Ate keeps asking about. The kid Momass ran some nice routes and made catches in traffic. DA HIGHLIGHTS I like how he doesn't get all shitty after catching what he thought was a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damajuki Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Of course he helped MoMass last week. MoMass was seeing single coverage w/o saftey help, because teams roll coverages toward BE. Well, duh (on me, that is). Of course you're right. I was thinking less about on-the-field help and more about getting him on the field. But it was still a stupid post. Thanks for not ripping me for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damajuki Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I heard a rumor that it was two second rounders . Holy cow, that would be AMAZING. Yeah, I know, he's a game-changer, he's an athletic beast, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda (Seinfeld again.) #1 WRs are like a nice spinners. They only really fit and look good on a nice car. Having him on this team, this year, was like seeing spinners on a Yugo. Just made the whole thing look more ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Im going on record right now as saying BE is going to have another Pro Bowl year and be a huge reason they make it to the playoffs we really xxxxed up on this one. The guy has insane potential and I was praying we could unlock that. It will happen in NY and we'll be fleeced once again by the Jets and Mangina. Are we the Jets farm system now? Iss Mangina secretly still on their payroll? We gave them a franchise QB and now a franchise WR. Mark my words folks and be ready for an 0-16 season! Wheres the fawking grocery bags! P.S. The optimism of getting even a 3rd and 5th is outlandish, we got bent over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Get a grip buddy. Edwards wasn't doin shit this year and he wouldn't even be around next year so..... the timing sucks but it had to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damajuki Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Im going on record right now as saying BE is going to have another Pro Bowl year and be a huge reason they make it to the playoffs we really xxxxed up on this one. The guy has insane potential and I was praying we could unlock that. It will happen in NY and we'll be fleeced once again by the Jets and Mangina. Are we the Jets farm system now? Iss Mangina secretly still on their payroll? We gave them a franchise QB and now a franchise WR. Mark my words folks and be ready for an 0-16 season! Wheres the fawking grocery bags! We were no more or less likely to win games with BE this year. That was abundantly clear from his play so far this year and evidently ManKok agree with me. He was doing the NFL version of a "sick out". Oh, he was playing, alright, if by "playing" we mean "running around trying not to get hurt". The guy has potential. Great. So do MoMass and Robo and they actually seem to want to play football. Good freaking riddance to BE. He's NY's problem now and they are welcome to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I disagree with you BE and DA's chemistry is very good and took years to build. Eventually BE was going to have a break out game and the guy draws double coverage alot. He was in fact our only seasoned weapon and If you think he wasn't going to have a solid year with DA at the helm your smoking crack! Pro Bowl with the Browns maybe not, but with the Jets he will! We got xxxxed and thats all there is to it Stuckey isnt a #1 and we got a special teams LB! Who xxxxing cares! Once you find out we didn't get at least a 3rd and we win maybe 2 games your going to understand very quickly how much this deal sucked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 We were no more or less likely to win games with BE this year. That was abundantly clear from his play so far this year and evidently ManKok agree with me. He was doing the NFL version of a "sick out". Oh, he was playing, alright, if by "playing" we mean "running around trying not to get hurt". The guy has potential. Great. So do MoMass and Robo and they actually seem to want to play football. Good freaking riddance to BE. He's NY's problem now and they are welcome to him. He's in a contract year and you're telling me he's trying to not play hard to get a good deal? He and DA have great chemistry and it was bound to come out at some point! He draws double coverage which entail gives other WR's an opportunity. Thats all gone which equals less wins for this team! Mangina isn't playing to win this year or be competitive at all, the Jets are! Oh but we've got an awesome defense so it doesn't matter lol! Bust out your paper grocery bags gentlemen, its going to be a LONG season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 0-16 here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 He's in a contract year and you're telling me he's trying to not play hard to get a good deal? He and DA have great chemistry and it was bound to come out at some point! He draws double coverage which entail gives other WR's an opportunity. Thats all gone which equals less wins for this team! Mangina isn't playing to win this year or be competitive at all, the Jets are! Oh but we've got an awesome defense so it doesn't matter lol! Bust out your paper grocery bags gentlemen, its going to be a LONG season! You are so clueless on the logic here man. This is good for the browns, chant it until you believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 This is good for the browns, chant it until you believe it. It is only good for the Browns if a) Stucky and that other dude make significant contributions down the line or b.) the draft picks end up amounting to players that significantly contribute to the team down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 You are so clueless on the logic here man. This is good for the browns, chant it until you believe it. Problem is I don't believe it and I won't believe it until it equates to wins. For instance the game this weekend vs the Bills I thought was very winnable, now not so much. We'll see how the offense plays this weekend and I might brighten up to this trade. I just dont see anything good coming in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopaji Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Let's see how many balls you catch in triple coverage. Signed, Braylon Edwards (Our coach is horrible.) This is a FANTASTIC move. BE was useless beyond useless. Stucky is the perfect #2 WR and Mo Mass prolly won't garner double teams until he beats them. And EVERY good WR in the league has to deal with double teams sometimes it's just part of the game. Then, Stucky is one on one and he catches everything so this is a great move. Plus, we got a 3rd round pick out of the deal! Mangini hosed em' and I love the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Problem is I don't believe it and I won't believe it until it equates to wins. For instance the game this weekend vs the Bills I thought was very winnable, now not so much. We'll see how the offense plays this weekend and I might brighten up to this trade. I just dont see anything good coming in the near future. He ain't gettin us any wins NOW is the issue man. He has 10 catches this year. Yeah he commands a doubleteam.. so what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Yeah he commands a doubleteam.. so what. As to what, it allows a guy like MoMass to go out and see mainly man coverger and put up a big day like he did Sunday. In the long run, getting rid of BE will probably make the team better. In the short term, we are likely not going to see many games this year out of MoMass like we did on Sunday. We shall see how the passing game looks this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damajuki Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 This issue is the same short-term vs. long-term debate I was having with Stan in the DA thread but now about WRs. To me, this whole year should have been about long-term. It should have been (and increasingly now is going to be) about developing young talent. I obviously think BQ should have been part of that but if he really was that detrimental, fine. Stan brought up a good point about DA allowing guys a better chance to develop. Okay, I'll buy into that; it makes me feel better about the move. And this is in the same vein. COULD BE have helped us win a few games this year? Sure. WOULD he have? Probably not, simply because we are not that good. At some point, the coach/GM has to say: "What's this season about?" Maybe they really thought it was about trying for this year in August and then when it became apparent that what they decided wouldn't work, they switched gears. Personally, that's great. The more young, hungry players on this team, the better. It's the only way out of the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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