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oh...no logic....

I beg to differ.......without a oline you aren't doing jack. Its part of your weaponry. Browns were middle of pack in drop passes and Baker was very, very inaccurate last season and I agree playing him hurt was dumb...But that's on Baker. He decided to not get surgery and ran to the press stating only HE can bench himself. HE was his own worse enemy....again. Rather someone is a sleezebag or not...I personally dgaf...You think the Ravens fans care about Ray lewis double murder or Stoolers with Ben double rapes? The Ratbirds had bottom receivers, line, running backs and yet their QB was in the MVP race cuz he was top 10 in passing and rushing yards....they were 7-3 before falling apart due to injuries... Just win The Browns rushing attack was ranked no.4 Enjoy your Sundays

Not sure your point. Yes...he went to 4 Superbowl games and lost to some absolute historic teams...have we been to even 1? Is Kelly not in the HOF? Kosar had alot of talent around him as well but couldn't get past Elway to even make it 1 Superbowl

In comparison to the ones I mentioned past seasons arent that much better than the Browns aif at all and most importantly the Browns are much better than them presently. Disagree? If so...which one you pick over the Browns? Jets?Jax? Wash?Texans?

None of the ones I mentioned are considered Superbowl rosters...Browns are. None have been to the playoffs or even close recently...We were just 2 seasons ago. We won 8 games last year and made big moves. Washington won 7....Jets 4, Jax 3 and the Texans 4......Your opinion but respectfully disagree easily

It's true a QB needs weapons. Baker had them...his line was top 5. top 5 rushing attack, obj,landry, hopper were all pro bowlers before they got here.Njoku is very solid...etc. We cant act like Baker was just surrounded by low level talent....

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Over Dan Snyder of Washington? The Texans owner who the FBI just investigated probably? Jets owner? Kahn in Jacksonville?? Naw dude....you wrong on this one

Exactly....if Baker was what his fans claim to be, teams would've snatched him up at the bargain price of 18 mill....they wouldn't risk another team getting him. bottomline....these DCs and teams have seen the tape of him. Scouts have scouted him...experts, people with decades in the biz. They know he needs everything around him right to succeed any and he got too much mouth.

And he is way too loose with his mouth and social media...

If Baker was elite like you think......no one would wait. They would want to beat the other team to Baker......but there's not a team in the league who is "Can't wait for Baker"......

That's called reality....People cried about Cousins' contract too. Now its nothing....so will be Watson's in a few years Highest salaries=Best results is a joke....That's a fantasy, reality is there''s a many of people who don't work hard, few results and get paid great Didn't say he was better than Rodgers or Mahomes....did I?

PERIOD

That's your opinion if they gave up too much. The entire league thinks Baker is a after thought.....lol. You can be as critical as you want....that's your right as a fan. As long as Watson don't lead the league in interceptions its cool. Other than that...meaningless. If they go to the playoffs every year for example....the FO go nowhere....PERIOD!

By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....

Very good analysis

Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him. Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him. bottomline

ok. I think Baker is better as well...but I don't think by that much. 13-20 mill a year more? Brisset is a little under 5 mill

No parroting needed-just pay attention. Attacking medical staff, former coaches, local journalists, tv talking heads..etc...heck...the moron could've had a job after Watson turned the Browns down but he demanded a trade because of his feelings getting hurt. No one wants your guy for even half the price of an elite QB------ so it matters. His career is in danger.......you can go root for his mediocre ass at the USFL next year tho.....lol!!

No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

its a "discussion" board

Very Good points...I would say in Brissett defense most of it was in a backup role and Dolphins were a mess last year and I'm not a big QBR guy

yes it does!! lol I think the Browns......only because the Ravens didn't upgrade really, Bengals will be a close 2nd cuz they did...they got lucky alot last year, and the Steelers are starting Trubisky

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