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Baker has led the league in interceptions since being in the league. Off the field issues that are not legal or suspendable but unnecessarily annoying Broke rookie TD record Led team to playoffs Led team to playoff win against Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh At times very accurate What I read about Brisset who is also less expensive, bigger and faster than Baker but never led a team to the playoffs. "Brissett will join his fourth NFL team since entering the league in 2016 and has played 60 games with 37 starts. He’s passed for 7,772 yards, 36 touchdowns and 17 interceptions, including 1,281 yards, five touchdowns and four interceptions in 11 games and five starts with the Miami Dolphins last season" Is Baker better than Brissett? If so....by how much do you think?

You're reading into it what you want to read into it for argument sake. I worked for a criminal defense attorney for 7 years out of law school. Deal with definites. I wasn't there...nor were you. Bottomline. Just because you don't go to jail don't mean you didn't do it. Just because you go to jail don't mean you did do it. Those are statements of fact proven time and time again by DNA evidence and the Freedom project. You're welcome

Sheesh....reread the ENTIRE reply I typed

Cuz the Browns have beaten your fandom.down so many years...... If this don't work I'll be with you

Or....listen to this one....you can just not reply to the post? Lol

Nor are you...therefore you have no case to rest. Lol

It's not about you agreeing with my take as much as your take has falsified. I worked for a criminal defense attorney for 7 years out of law school. I'm not an Attorney. Where's there smoke theres fire? Well if that's correct then the freedom project wouldn't get prisoners free every year? Maybe the fire is brewing between the Texans owner and the Attorney.? Out of all the attorneys...how is a very good neighbor and friend of the owner is the one representing all of the women? The FBI got involved....trust me. They didnt get involved over massages but they will get involved over a conspiracy involving a billionaire. Your personal football opinion on Watson we just agree to disagree. Watson didn't demand white Texans employees be replaced with black employees. That's just....comedy . He was upset at the coaching decision and the Texans being ran as the worse franchise in sports. Ask D. Hopkins and Watt. As in always will be doubts? So there will be with the Ray Lewis murders, Ben Roethlisberger rapes and Tom Brady cheating. Ask if Ravens, Steelers and Patriot fans if they really care?

Probably not...doesn't hurt to ask. Bottom line is I'm sure he can get more somewhere else than what we we're gonna pay him...yet he seems to want to come back....wtf does that for Cleveland??

All I'm saying is that many are emphasizing that number saying that many women can't be lying? 22 says alot... But for a grand jury( that can indict a ham sandwich) to not indict Watson on not even 1 of the 22 alleges says just as much. The grand jury could've indicted him on 1 count and sent the other 21 packing. They didnt ... If it's also true of the abnormally close relationship of the Texans owner and the attorney ( neighbors, family members are best friends, run and endorse eachother's politics)....thats almost as concerning

I saw a report he wants 15 at most... I didn't see 20 anywhere. Does it matter? He knows he can't get that here yet he is considering us again.

Or people were right and then the person under center proved it more? You can be pissed all you want, but adults have adult reactions. Going to social media and demanding a trade screwed him over and you blame him. Billion dollar business.....emphasis on business. Business is never personal...it's business. For 18 million the paperboy can film it.....idgaf....especially if I wasn't hitting it right anyway but acting like I was....

More than just obnoxious and embarrassing..its immature to a point where it's childish and his talent doesn't outweigh it. You see any teammates coming to his defense? There's a reason. Bench him? You forget how Baker ran to the press and stated only he makes the decision for him to sit? In combination of the medical staff clearing him then wtf are you supposed to do other than play him? He's the no.1 pick who just helped win a road playoff game against Pittsburgh. Baker bet on himself, put the contract before his team well being...and lost. I disagree. Them getting Watson might be their best move yet. Money means very little to me because in 2 seasons the next contract for a elite QB is 60 mill a year...Watch what Burrow and Herbert get. As in Watson's criminal case...dead. civil suits...we will see. I think Brisset can hold the fort down for a bit until the suspension. As in go all in with Baker this year...you wanna go to war against Lamar, Wilson, Mahomes, Burrows, Herbert, Josh Allen ...with Baker? How many seasons Chubb, Garrett, Wars, Hunt...etc have? Not a fan of Haslam..never really been. But Baker is the author of all his ills. Imagine if he would've just STFU and got surgery last year? He would've gotten a contract I gauarantee.... Heck, After Watson turned the Browns down he could've swallowed a little pride and got a contract in that window.....naw...he gonna go " trade me to the Colts "

Yuo.....For example I have ZERO doubts the Pats organization did know Aaron Hernandez was a complete murdering monster. They just didn't gaf....

I saw this to....just look like it's going to go nowhere.....one of the same individuals...

Let's pause.....in 4 years Baker attacked medical staff, local journalists, national talking heads, former coach, other player's about their contracts.....please name the QB in 4 years who did all that? Why you think no one wants to pay the 18 mill while elite QBs out here getting 40? His mouth doesn't out weigh his talent...everything needs to be perfect around him to thrive-how often does that happen?.. Carolina reps stated they weren't interested in Mayfield....dude responds with we're not interested in them either. That's not Halslam, FO or fans fault....it's Baker

Or does it implicate a lack of hypocrisy. I didn't leave my country when we gave the nuclear football to a man with 25 alleged sexual assaults, so why would I leave my team over a a quarterback with 22 of them? Could it be a massive money grab? Certainly....the grand jury can indict a ham sandwich and they didn't indict him on even 1 charge. None of the women complained to a supervisor and most did it multiple times. The court could've done 1 and sent the other 21 packing, the 22 accusations came almost all at once when he requested a trade, the attorney lives on the Texan's owner street, family are friends and the run in the same political circles. What's also very possible is Watson is a complete perv and deserves prison.....it's just out of my hands and way above my paygrade.

And like there was ALMOST no escalation whatsoever...like..BOOM 22. And as they say the grand jury can indict a ham sandwich...they didn't indict him on a singe 1? They could've indicted him on 2 and sent the other 20 packing away for example....but not even 1? Exactly....don't stick ...they don't give a F

Yeah...waa they made at Mahomes near half a billion? Rodgers 50 mill a year.....? They should be more upset at alot of other things than that...F THEM GO BROWNS!!

I wanted him too...I always thought it was strange that a guy who tore up a Bama defense twice, packed full of future NFL players, we wouldn't get. makes me think Hue was right.....lol It's not that I don't have any complaints about Watson....it's just 2 things.. Its all about if your talent outweighs your issue (Baker's don't)and 2nd -NFL had had way too many issues like this and those actually convicted and kept moving for me to have any real concern...vehicular homicides, rape, assaults, murder (Ray Lewis, Henandez), Indy owner, Pats owner, racial discrimination (they just started paying black CTE victims as much as whites because their analysis was blacks were dumber than whites thus it's harder to prove CTE). How can I make Watson 22 allegations that all were thrown out by a Grand jury that usually can indict a ham sandwich my line with all of those things aforementioned? He has elite talent, court cleared him....lets go I think Watson will get 10 games....there's no telling. Not to be political but they are all conservative wealthy men who all voted to give the nuclear football to someone with 25 allegations (other side ignored ignored Bill's as well). Will they make a example out of Watson or say he served a year already? So inconsistent that it's totally up in the air

It's also Baker's immaturity. He just said something stupid about Carolina. His mouth outweighs his talent. Who wants to deal with a guy who needs everything to be right (top 5 oline, rushing attack, defense, landry, hooper, njoku) to succeed but acts like Aaron Rodgers? He has attacked medical staff, former coaches, players about contracts, local and national reporters.....I mean remember he went to the media saying only HE makes the decision to play or not through his injury? How dafuq that makes your GM and HC feel? People bring up the Steelers playoff win like they didn't watch the Steelers implode with 5 turnovers?? He isn't worth it.....especially at 18 mill....he maynot be worth it for free

Baker just said something stupid about Carolina...his immaturity is costing him MILLIONS

You should look up the definition of "denial." Denial would be I don't believe he did anything wrong. I'm the no.3 approach. It's called REALITY. In REALITY people do horrible sh@$ and get away with it. Since I'm not a super hero, cop or God then it's not my lane. GO BROWNS

Yes...for the human brain. Some people are easier to mislead than others and that's why you have a Jonestown, cults, drug addicts ...etc. I was taught a long time ago to not put people, places and things on a pedestal with such ease. Especially a celebrity, athlete and or politician. Topic is posted because for me...it's a matter of recognizing how things are in reality and double standards, hypocrisy.... Facts? Facts are Grand jury can indict a ham sandwich and they didn't indict Watson on a single count. He didn't even get arrested, no mugshot... Need Deeper? Some of the women who performed the massage, went back and performed it multiple times without alerting any supervisor. None of the women said there was physical force was used by Watson and the defense attorney didn't even charge him with soliciting (But the Pats owner was).........Besides, .If 70 million people can give the nuclear football to someone with 25 alleged sexual assaults...How can I have too much of an issue with someone at quarterback with 22 of them? Why go to the NFL for morals when you can't even go to the highest office in the land? So.....yeah

Uhm....for you maybe. For how I was raised I was told right and wrong from my parents and to only look at them and my faith for my morals

Thank you. People are scared of just laying out the facts being that it may seem like you are defending Watson. The bottomline fact is that The Grand Jury can indict a ham sandwich and chose not to indict Watson on a single count...ijs