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Somehow the Corbett/right guard conversation has permeated through various threads. Someone (not me) suggested that it should be it’s own thread, and that’s a fine idea. I will do the 5 minutes of dirty work if no one else will. To catch everyone up to speed... Holy hell we wasted a hugely high draft pick on a baby faced O lineman who doesn’t seem to be turning into the building block we all expected! And in the meantime we also signed a few guys who gutted their way through a less rosy path in the NFL and have earned their way to free agent contracts like Kush and Witzmann and Kalis, all of whom sport actual facial hair. I’m pulling for Kush. Forbes is out of the equation since he’ll be a starting Tackle sometime this year.

I’m sure this is all Googleable if all you want to know is who made what argument. The internet is quite full of people and their opinions.

I seem to recall Jobi got off to a really hot start last year, like in the conversation for best performing DTs in the game the first few weeks, but then cooled off a bit. Still a solid season all told, but l wonder if he and the team would have benefitted from a little more rotational help in the middle?

There you go, stalkers with panache, to use your analogy. A more interesting variety of stalker if you will. I’m not going to say you and l both find value in the same things. I’ve got my opinions on the matter, you have yours. If semantics wrangles your weenie then substitute the word “opponent” with “the guy making the counter argument to your argument”, which is where we are right now. And how could you sleep with Jessica?!?You knew she was engaged to Blake! Just wait until Stefano hears about this!

Yeah, flamebaiters = villains, l think we see eye to eye that there is a difference between trolls and those guys. I dunno. I guess from a personal standpoint the exchanges between flamebaiters and those who spar with them have influenced how l watch football, as strange as that might sound. The Ghoul’s anti-Olineman stance was one of the things that made me wonder just how important the Oline play was, so l started studying it. Between that and Tour’s Oline breakdowns he used to do, as well as insight from Tiamat, Gumby, and other more knowledgable posters, l have learned a lot, and now it’s my favorite nuts and bolts thing to watch in a football game. And with Turnovers guy, l think his take on things was just echoing some concerns we all had. With the Hunt signing l must admit in the back of my head was “is this a good idea?” But reading exchanges between himself and others l get to sort out any minor anxiety and at least arrive at a stopping point. If you look hard you can find value in the strangest of places.

I believe villains are separate from trolls. The Ghoul is what he is, but somewhere deep down he clearly has a deep seated investment in the Browns in his own wierd way. Same with Shörts, who l recall incessantly went on and on about how some Browns player sucked in his Rainman like way, but quite frankly he wasn’t wrong. I guess l would differentiate trolls, who just like to ruffle feathers, with villains, who like to ruffle feathers while talking about something they’re truly passionate about in the process. I’m pretty sure a lot of us like a good football talk sparring match from time to time, and villains are often willing opponents.

The SS Sashi has a nice ring to it. Or at least a lotta alliteration.

If l’m being honest the board has gotten tamer in the years since l’ve joined, and l’m not really a fan of that. At one point in time this was a pretty intimidating place and you had to be prepared to spar if you voiced a dissenting opinion. I’m personally a fan of the board villains, as l like to call them. The Ghoulies and Stöckton Shörts and Baking up Turnovers of the world. It seems there’s a recent trend of banning or time out-ing people like that, and again, l’m not a fan. I’m sure that anyone who watches traffic on the board sees a spike in activity when the villains are at it. I get that the debating can get circular in nature, 2 mofos standing their ground and all, but sometimes, real insight can be gleaned reading between the lines of a debate between folks on opposite ends of the spectrum. I rather like the “toughest fans in pro sports” as a motto for the board and would like to see us collectively show that thick skin on an everyday basis.

1. Takix2 2. Josh Cribbs 3. Kelly Holcomb? 4. Red 5. I got laid 6. Khal Drogo

Really well put together post. We seemed to hear a lot about Chubb’s “yards after contact” last year like it was a feather in the cap, but of course it’s ideal to have that contact happen a little further out than where it tended to be last year. Real good thinking material. I did like the core of our Oline play last year. Big Bitonio fan. Really liked Zeitler, and really like Tretter, but he seems to eternally play with an ankle sprain. I feel like l’ve read the phrase “the Hubbard experiment” enough that it irks me. I think he went through his adjustment period early in the season like many a guy would on a new team, but panned out well enough imo that we can remove the “experiment” from his name. Still, room for improvement. l kinda feel like we’ve laid the groundwork for said improvement though. I’m not counting out Corbett yet, but l still think he needs to get rid of that baby face a grow some scruff. We also signed a few solid vets in the offseason and Forbes could develop into something special. I dunno. I think the groundwork was laid to improve the Oline in an organic fashion, but only time will tell.

Where’s the love for Ray squared? I’m counting on that guy making the 53, and possibly becoming the MLB of the future. It’s a fact that he’s twice the Ray that Ray Lewis ever was.

I like this guy. The frontrunner for my new favorite player.

That clip was a very limited sample size designed to make Forbes look as good as possible, but it looked to me like he has the quicks to stay at Tackle. I mean, they basically used him as a pulling Tackle. You don’t really see much of that in the NFL. So l doubt there will be many designed plays where he’s sweeping behind the line to pick up a block on the other side of Center, but it’s a good asset to have.

Putting your head down is a mechanism to focus power. I would liken it to a baseball or fastpitch player putting their head down to focus on hitting a pitch, and l’m sure every Olineman does it when needed to fend off a bull rush or other power play. Are you saying he does it too early? And perhaps that mitigates his ability to disengage and reengage on stunts or delayed blitzes?

I’m guessing at his size and at his school he was a man among boys, but watching this you can see the appeal. Looks like a good candidate for misdirection plays, which l tend to think Kitchens is pretty good at drawing up, and you can definitely see the “finisher” compliment he was given in the interview clip. Gonna be fun to watch this guy develop. He seems to have the feets to stick at tackle.

Stay close to him. Don’t let him get a first down. Tackle his ass or deflect the ball or some shit.

Clearly Dorsey has a theme with his linebackers: 2 name guys. First he signed Ray Ray, and now Takitaki. I will henceforth refer to him as Taki squared.

Thanks for posting these. I liked the bit about D. Howard. I didn’t realize Dorsey “discovered” him. And on a side note, are the 80s back in fashion? Both Howard and Becham seem to be sporting outfits that are unabashedly from that time period. Perhaps we could start a godundme page to get those mofos some jelly bracelets.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/19182415 It’s actually almost identical to what Ray Rice got, which was effectively 13-14 games. His incident was in 2014. His 2 game suspension got Goodell’d to a lifetime suspension, which he appealed and got overturned late November of that same year. He was free to sign and play with any team after that point.

After thinking on this for a day it just seems like an excessive move. I guess l’m of the opinion that having a good and accurate QB lessens the need for a superstar wideout. That said, it can’t hurt l suppose. Welcome to the club Odell.

All l will say is that John Dorsey is one silver tongued devil. My first reaction was ”Scandalous!!” But then l read his statement and somehow, someway everything makes sense.

Very well done and very fun read Dutch. Remind me to play along next year. Guessing games like this always feels like trying to piss into a soup can off a 2 story building, which really sounds fun unless you feel like you’re actually expected to land a few drops in the can. A can full of piss is not necessarilly better than a pissless can, and that is liberating.

Bo Jackson said the same. It really boils down to doing what he loves. He’s clearly pretty amped up at the prospect of playing in the NFL right now. I guess success and the Heisman will do that to a guy. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/96492338

If Murray goes the NFL route then 1 of 2 unacceptable things happened. Either the A’s didn’t do their due dilligence to make sure the guy intended to play baseball, or he severely misled them about his post college intentions. It’s not super uncommon that a 2 sport athlete could be drafted by MLB and NFL. If anyone remembers, Johnny Manziel was drafted as a shortstop by San Diego, l think. But they used a really low pick because they knew his intention was to play football. However, before an MLB team burns their number 1 pick on a guy, there are usually conversations held between teams and players to discern what they plan to do. In baseball, players have options. They could go to or stay in college, they could go to Japan, or forego sports altogether and go for whatever career they studied for.

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