Dutch Oven

I guess my lack of interest in responding to you is pretty much the same reason tia doesn't bother with you... You are a moron.

I'm thankful I wasn't drinking something when I read the above last line by tia, or I would have sprayed my laptop screen methinks...

Minnesota's Tyler Nubin is Lindy's #1 rated safety and has a 1st/2nd round grade. Kinchens is their #2, with a second round grade. And yes, indeed!

The magazine (Lindy's) has both Mitchell and Powers-Johnson as second rounders. But you got me on Stover, they have him as a third rounder. 🤣 But the "possibly the most well-rounded TE in this class" part made me think, you know, maybe he wouldn't be such a reach here in the second.

WR Adonai Mitchell, Texas. 6'3, 196. Lightening quick off snap, giving the Browns WR unit more needed speed. TE Cade Stover, Ohio State. 6'4, 251. Possibly the most well-rounded TE in this class. C/OG Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon. 6'3, 320. Bulldozer in run game. Can play center or guard, giving Browns flexibility in two positions they will need an eventual starter. DT Maason Smith, LSU. 6'6, 315. Top run stopper in DT class, has potential as pass rusher too. LB Junior Colson, TCUN. 6'3, 247. Probably my favorite 2nd round prospect, honestly. Great run defender perfect complement to JOK. S Kamren Kinchens, Miami. 5'11, 205. Thumper AND ballhawk.

Nice list of prospects Flugel... I waited until I did mine before really looking at your and gumby's list, didn't want to get influenced. We have different players but exactly the same positions picked 🤣 I ended up with six guys, could have had damn near twice that.

I'm out of reactions right now, (that Winston thread is the gift that keeps on giving) but good job gumby! But with Sweat, do the Browns really need another massive IDL, since they took Ika last draft?

Alright @Flugel (or anyone else who would like to participate)... Your assignment is to come up with your five favorite (and realistic) choices for the Browns second round pick. Take your draft guide and get crack-a-lackin' on it. I'll do the same.

Cal prefers the nomenclature "Non-running QB". Thanks in advance.

You're a Steelers fan, I can understand you having rose-colored glasses for your first round QB. What's funny is the "Browns" fans on here like Ghoolie and his butt-sniffer extraordinaire Gorka who kept going on and on about how "that Kenny Pickett just seems to have it." 🤣

I feel like we dodged a bullet multiple times with Lamar and JK Dobbins, but JKD could never stay healthy. If Henry still has tread on his tires, it could be interesting.

Aaron Donald announces his retirement. His Hall of Fame bust is being made as we speak.

Apparently sexual assault is a very serious thing to certain people here when it pertains to "running quarterbacks". It stops being a problem when it pertains to other "non-running quarterback" type people. Fascinating.

You are the mayor of the village of idiots. You have to know this, right?

Apparently your front office thought otherwise. You can say I was right about him now, buddy.... 😉

I don't remember the guy, but apparently Devin Bush's dad (also Devin Bush) played for the Browns back in 2001-02.

And remember during his rookie season when I said that there was nothing I've seen from Najee Harris that scared me, and you said I'd eat those words? 3.9 career yards per carry after three seasons. Not a bad player, mind you, but pretty much what I said he'd be - a JAG. And I'd take Pickett over Watson too, he'd be a lot easier to release.

Interesting band, this song has a fun early 80s sound to it.

Seriously though, has the Steelers ever drafted, traded or signed a player you thought was no good, and on the flippy flip, has a player ever left the Steelers that you thought was still a very good player? I mean, Kenny Pickett my man. You tried so hard to convince, well, maybe yourself that he was a viable NFL starting QB.

So we didn't sign Ohio State's backup QB to play LB for the Browns? 😁 When I heard about the Browns interviewing Bush today, I kept thinking they were talking about Devin White, and couldn't understand why they didn't seem real high on the guy. 🤣 Shenanigans, Vag. Straight up shenanigans in my head today.

Yeah, I'm just looking at him as Takitaki's replacement. Not going to expect him to all the sudden prove his first round draft status with us.

It's like the movie Groundhog Day up in here. I bet you $355 mill it's not the last time...

LB Devin Brown signs a one year deal with the Browns. Both Walker and Takitaki's spots were quickly filled.

Glad to see the back-to-back pick sixes he threw in the playoff game vs the Texans to start the avalanche of defeat isn't being held against him. We are growing as a board. How nice. Warms the cockles of my heart. Might even warm the sub-cockles area. It was a short but memorable run... kind of like Mike Napoli back in 2016 with the Tribe. We Italians know how to have a good time.

You mean like getting your ass handed to you for two decades straight, dodging the 2020 contest because your 2-4 team was going to get annihilated and then starting the biggest on-field cheating scandal in NCAA football history desperate, Woody? 🤣