10 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

interesting -

Jerry Sherk

Jerry Martin Sherk

Position: DT-DE-NT

6-4, 258lb (193cm, 117kg)

Born: July 7, 1948 (Age: 71-022d) in Grants Pass, OR

Why is this interesting? 

Dude played 40 years ago. 

13 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Can you say Aaron Donald

I can. 

It is not a difficult name to say. 😄

6 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Any word on the AJ Green injury?   Could he be gonzo all year long?

Out 6-8 weeks

6 hours ago, hoorta said:

If we're going for the Mount Rushmore of all time busts, it has to be a combination of draft position\ non production - injury problems. 

So, the top 4

Mike Junk- in "Mad Dog in a meat Market" 

Just-not ready -in Gilbert

Trent (one hit wonder) Richardson

And Barkless Mingo

 

 

I'm going to have to disagree with you on Richardson.

Is he a bust overall? Absolutely. 

But the Browns got a solid rookie season out of him (1300+ yards rushing/receiving) and then dealt him right at the beginning of his second season for a first rounder. In reality, Richardson didn't really hurt the Browns. (It was a dumb pick, though)

Richardson absolutely killed the Colts, though. 

20 minutes ago, Orion said:

I don't think Duke can take the pounding that an every down RB has to take.  I see him more as a, Raise My Hand For A Break, type of guy rather than the Carlos Hyde, I Don't Need To Come Out type.

Remember the argument Haley had with Hue about Hue letting guys sit too much during Training Camp and that Haley thought they needed to be on the field practicing more? I swear I think it was Duke specifically they were talking about

I'd be fine if ALL the leagues shortened their seasons, to be honest.

14 games for the NFL, 140-148 games for MLB, 60ish games for NBA and NHL. 

For the love of dog, shorten the NBA and NHL playoff season. I swear it feels longer than the regular season sometimes. 

3 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

oh, come, folks. That is a real Haiku ! 5-7-5..... Hue was all wet in Egypt, in "deNile...."

that's pretty good for a minute and a half of poem construction.....

It was as well constructed as most of your posts, for sure. 

Hunt also is definitely a better kicker than Duke, too. 

6 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Didn't Mayfield have like 27 TDs in his rookie year to set the rookie record...in only a partial season:?

The stats NFL QBs are putting up now, even mediocre ones, are insane.

Mayfield is going to obliterate every passing record the Browns have, way before he turns 30. (If he stays healthy, of course)

8 hours ago, mjp28 said:

JT would be nice for the current day fans.

Clay Matthews is so overlooked.

Shafrath is a blast from my past.

A few defensive players from the original dog pound days might come close.

There were a lot of really good players on the 1985-1989 Browns, but the only player who I think has a chance for the HOF is Matthews, and that seems somewhat in the air. 

13 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

Simple enough. It’s PC to be an idiot now. It wasn’t then. 

So you are politically correct then? 

7 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

If Jesus suffered from low self-esteem and didn't believe in himself, would he be committing blasphemy? 

1 hour ago, Flugel said:

I showed up to a thread about Hunt and landed in a debate about Hell. 

Here's my beef with the Catholic Church and their religious instructions I wasted way too many years participating in. What part of excommunicating a divorced couple and their young children from the church exemplifies  "don't judge others" and "forgiveness of sins"?    So, if a spouse is repeatedly unfaithful - the whole family pretty much gets thrown out of the church, judged and unforgiven.    That said, an allegedly celibate Priest going Sandusky on little boys hasn't been kicked out of the Catholic Church.   He just gets sent to another Catholic Church where he can rinse and repeat the unthinkable (quite often under the same roof where most of the sacraments take place). 

Did you ever see the film 'Spotlight' with Michael Keaton? 

Fascinating movie on the Catholic Church in Boston and their coverup of pedophiles in their midst. 

1 hour ago, jcam222 said:

First sorry he drank himself to death. Secondly I’ve been sober now 30 years. One thing I know is that a bar at 3am is no place for me or people like me. 

The funny thing about nickers is how testy he is about this situation (YOU DON'T KNOW THE ENTIRE STORY!) while you know if there's even a hint that OBJ is late returning a library book he'll be all over his ass... 😝

1 hour ago, hoorta said:

Our atheist pals over on the political forum had better hope they were right.  

This atheist who avoids the wasteland of the political forum like the plague is smart enough not to extorted into believing in the imaginary mob boss in the sky. I'm Italian, I'm versed in the whole "protection" racket already. 

And I don't believe there's any mention of Purgatory in the Old or New Testament. I always was under the impression that Purgatory was a Catholic invention to try and squeeze more money out of their flock by hinting that giving more money to them might persuade Jesus's dad into moving them from Purgatory to Heaven. 

This is a strangely interesting conversation, by the way. Not Browns-related at all, but still interesting. Nothing wrong with that. 

1 hour ago, Flugel said:

You've always done a great job of keeping your political views out of the football forum discussions!  

Unintentionally Flugs this is one of the funniest things I've read on here! 🤣

1 hour ago, bjh2130 said:

In the King James Bible, Sheol (old testament) is translated to Hell 31 times, "the grave" 31 times, and "the pit" 3 times. In new testament "Tartarus" (deepest pit of divine torture below hades) and "Gehenna" (a place where both soul and body could be destroyed in "unquenchable fire") are typically translated as either "Hell" or "Hell fire" in many English versions.

While we are talking about fiction books, how many times is hell mentioned in the Lord of the Rings, The Godfather and The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? 😝

1 hour ago, Canton Mike said:

LOL!

I don't like "fruity" beer & I can't IMAGINE drinking beer that tastes like grapefruit. OMG!!!!

Mike

I remember taking the first drink and instantly thinking: "ohhhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooooooooo".... 

20 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said:

Rheingeist’s Truth seems to have become the premier IPA here in Cincy. You see it everywhere.

Love me some Skyline though. Can’t help it. I even love their hot sauce. 

Visited Cincinnati for the first time last summer, thoroughly enjoyed my time there. Caught two Indians/Reds games while there. 

Stopped in an Irish bar to have a drink on the way back to the hotel after both games (O'Malley's in the Alley) and had a Rheingheist Truth the second night, because when in Rome.... Grossest beer I've ever had. I can drink some Summer Shandy, Blue Moon, etc, but Truth was disgusting. Fucking grapefruit. Ugh. 

And Skyline tastes like someone tried to make chili, had a stroke, and then thought they were trying to make a pumpkin pie. Seriously, what the fuck is that shit? 

7 hours ago, hoorta said:

Yes, but  too much  booze can put your  religion on the  back burner.

A gentle breeze puts most people's religious beliefs on the back burner. 

There's not a chance in hell he did anything wrong.

Don't you guys remember he was just baptized back in May with Dorsey and Freddie? Jesus is Hunt's homeboy. 

20 hours ago, The Gipper said:

The thing is, the Browns have never had a Hall of Fame caliber  MLB.....and no LB at all that had played for the Browns has ever made the HOF. (overlooked Clay Matthews played OLB)

Costello may in fact have been the best MLB we have ever had.  Are there any other candidates? Who would they be?

I know defenses were different back in the day but didn't Bill Willis play MLB? (or the version of it back in the 40s and 50s?)

Edit: Willis was a middle guard, which was another name for nose tackle. When defenses went from a 5-2 front to 4-3, the middle guard moved off the line and became the middle linebacker. 

So I'd go with Mike Johnson being the best MLB besides Costello. 

9 hours ago, nickers said:

I think it was Galen Fiss who actually came up with the defensive game plan against the colts for that game..

Now that I think of it, and watched a video to confirm it, it was Galen Fiss who made that open-field tackle on Moore, not Vince Costello. 

And it was defensive back Bernie Parrish who came up with the game plan vs the Colts, not Fiss. 

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2014/12/cleveland_browns_1964_champion_14.html

Costello made what many consider to be "the play" of the '64 Championship, when he made a perfect tackle of HOF RB Lenny Moore on a screen pass when there still was no score in the game. If Costello didn't make that great open-field tackle, Moore might have taken that screen pass all the way to the endzone. Costello did make the tackle, and the rest was history. 

As much that has been written about the Jets huge upset of the Colts in Super Bowl III, the Browns were huge underdogs in '64 too. 

19 hours ago, hx214 said:

I didn't even know there was a report button.... I thought that logo in the corner was on of those Instagram buttons.....

Most people not named calfox are not aware that a report button exists, actually.