On 5/21/2024 at 4:44 PM, Dutch Oven said:

Let me sum it up for everyone:

Watt is white, and you are a racist piece of garbage, hence why this is a subject you come back to over and over. In a thread about Stefanski possibly handing over control of the offense to Ken Dorsey, you just had to shoe-horn  "the race card player" Myles Garrett, because that is all you are - A Fox News spewing troll.  In fact, this very subject got you kicked off this board. A subject that has zero to do with the thread topic.  

But we are all aware why this is a subject so close to your heart, Mr. Tiki Torch At Charlottesville. 

And of course nickers and Ghoolie are in lock-step with you on this. Birds of a feather.

 

Racist? LMAO. so if I dislike a black player I am racist. Fuck Myels Garrett. The only ones who believe Mild Garrett is better than Watt are Browns fans.

You judge the bastard on his highlight films. I judge him on the fact that he doesn't show up 6 games every year.

Mild Garret is a cahunnt. You and Flugels are cahunnts.

On 5/15/2024 at 4:03 AM, ballpeen said:

It's not about just what you like.  It's about having a facility that can be used dozens of times a year and become an economic engine for all of NE Ohio.  That point really isn't debatable when comparing to an upgraded outdoor stadium.

The thing is, concerts are not huge money makers for venue owners. Many acts today demand cash before they will even show up, and the cost for an act is almost prohibitive.

The economic benefit provided by beer and hotdogs sales at a Lizzo beaching will never offset the tax dollars residents have to pay.

You wouldn't catch me attending a game live any more. Domed or not.

3 hours ago, Flugel said:

Myles Garrett didn't need to tee off from the Women's Tees vrs Right Tackles every game like TJ.  If you want to be the best - you gotta beat the best.  

We can go back as far as the Browns beating the Steelers in the playoffs when Myles scored our 1st TD on the 1st play of the game.  Our Defense forced 4 INTs from Roethlisberger while you were watching the Hallmark Channel.  TJ Watts' defense forced 0 INTs. The Browns scored 48 points while Pittsburgh only had 29 points with 1:09 remaining (before a junk time TD).  

In college, Garrett played his final year with high ankle sprain which impacted his performance.  I never heard or read he announced he doesn't play hard.  @TexasAg1969goes to a lot of A&M home games every year as a huge fan of that program.  I'd rather hear what he has to say about that since he doesn't have trouble telling the truth like you.

 

Garrett Blows

2 hours ago, Jax said:

My local pizza shop, Wedgewood, like to joke when you come in about your pizza having anchovies.

It was funny the first time...

Lived 1 mile away on New Road for 10 years.

45 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

LOL

Doing awesome, having fun. My Wife had surgery last Oct, to replace a defective aortic heart valve done 6 yrs ago,  a week after my knee replacement. Two days after I got home, her best friend took her to emergency. They scheduled it They don't use that valve anymore. I ditched my walker, and hung out at the hospital for two whole days because going back to our car in the parking deck was tough. lol

So, now, we are getting our stamina going for a lot of hikes on our vacation out west. I hope you had fun at cardio rehab. lol

God Bless you and your family - that surgery is tough on everyone. She is in outstanding shape now. Me - I used to be able to work "all day long" - (Jack Nicholson line from "Goin South")

Meanwhile, I have about 30 tomato plants to put in the garden I haven't rototilled yet, catching up on farm work I couldn't do last year since I blew out my knee. I made dandelion jelly earlier. It looks like a huge crop of wild blackberries is coming this year.

We went to our friends' son's wedding in NC - it was beautiful weather in April. The morning we left to head for NC, our battery was dead. LOL, so we took our other car.

 It's always something. lol

Thanks for the reply, my friend. Keep at it, and I will do the same!

9 minutes ago, Vambo said:

This is the story of a young couple in Portland, Maine.
While waiting for her husband Don to return home from work, she reaches for
a can of anchovies. As she spreads the tiny fish across a piece of lettuce,
she notices a small note at the bottom of the can. Written on it is a
telephone number. Curious, she dials, and is told, "Don't move, lady, we'll
be right over." Placing the phone back on the hook, she turns to see three
smartly dressed men standing in her kitchen doorway. Before she realizes
what is happening to her, she is rolled tightly in long sheets of cellophane,
transported to an international airport, and placed on a waiting jet-liner.
All this being too much for her to comprehend, she passes out.
Upon awakening, she finds herself in a strange, foreign speaking nation
("Dalas nekcihc dna tihs nekcihc neewteb ecnereffid eht wonk ot suineg a
ekat t'nseod ti."). Alone, fearing her escape impossible, she seeks comfort
in the arms of a confidential agent. With the trace of her kiss still warm
upon his lips, he betrays her to the hands of three scientists who are
engaged in diabolical, avant-garde experiments previously performed only on
insects and other small, meaningless creatures. Using her as their subject,
they are delighted with the results. For the first time, a human being is
transformed into a ("shhh... it's secret").
Meanwhile, back in Portland, Maine...
Her husband Don, now chain-smoking 40 packs of cigarettes a day, sits at a
local bar and has a few beers with the regulars. Bored, everyone's
attention turns to the television set that just hangs from the wall.
("Welcome to Bowling for Dollars"). Suddenly, crazy Al says, "S-say, Don,
there sure is something familiar about that bowling ball." To which a
terrified Don replies, "Oh my God! That bowling ball! It's my wife!"
And the lesson we learn from this story is, next time you place your order,
don't forget to say, "No anchovies please."

 

 

This joke was so long, you had to post it twice

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

we do go fishing. and going to Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons with friends this summer.

I work hard, got the new knee going great - have two good knees for the first time in my life.

Brushhogging, log splitting, putting in the garden..........

    This is fun - talking about politics. And it is a great break from working on stuff.

CALSNOTS......How the hell are you doing brother? I had open heart surgery 116 months ago. 95% blockage of my Aorta, no symptoms..Hereditery shit that my Dad had. They did emergency surgery, said I was a dead man walking.

Political.debate? 

I like it too, but I also like being a dickhead. 🙂

Seriously, go fishing, make a sandwich. Stop this bullshit already.

Why would a guy not let his wife have a facebook account, but instead have her with him on a joint account?

I have a Steeler fan friend who did this. 

Weird.

12 hours ago, Flugel said:

Someone might want to tell Ghoolie JJ Watt retired.  His little brother TJ in Pittsburgh lines up across from Right Tackles that only make a fraction of the income that Left Tackles make protecting passers for obvious reasons. Myles Garrett faced the bigger challenges in a world that lives by to be the best you gotta beat the best.  TJ Watt lined up from the women's tees.  

Most people that watch football instead of only listening to it on the radio every Sunday can see how many reasons why Garrett easily emerged as the DPOTY on the defense he helped achieve a #1 ranking.  One of the runner-ups Micah Parsons said it was no contest; and film will show anyone why Myles was obvious winner.

You keep checking grammar. BOTH Watt specimens are miles ahead of Myles.

Garrett admitted that he didn't play hard on every down on college, it is the same with the Browns.

He is overrated shit.

1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

Gay bashing and b******* aside in Moneyball some suit at least set the plays in motion as far as probability versus outcome. Probably not that far-fetched to think that Depodessa has at least some input. Now back to your squabbling.

wSS

When Stefanski is gone in a couple years, then the true exte t of Depo control will be shared.

5 hours ago, FY56 said:

Yeah that guy.

C'mon man. That's a bunch of malarky, couldn't you see I was critical of Ghoolie for calling the DPOY a Zumba dancer???

You were critical, but you now agree with me. Mild Garret is an atheist.  he doesn't show up on Sunday.

1 hour ago, Orion said:

I'm trying to think of one time that you were right about something...but I can't seem to...

Your affliction with Alzheimers does not alter the truth.....

I called for Sewage and Crennell to be fired after 1 quarter of the first preseason game

I called for Hue to be fired at that same point.

Richardson, Manzeil, Green, Mayfield, Winslow, Edward's just to name a few were busts I called out?

More? 

Here is one for you to keep in your hip pocket. After Stefanski is fired, he will go on to share how much Depodesta controlled play calling.

Despite being a yes man, a coffee fetcher, he will be made the scapegoat after another 1 or 2 disappointing seasons.

2 hours ago, FY56 said:

They may not like hearing this as well. Too bad.

I'd trade the race card player for Watt in a heartbeat. The guy who begged Dallas to pick him in the draft. Yeah he wanted to be a Brown all right.

Watt was destined to become a Cleveland Brown, but fate took a wrong turn.

Just look at the guy, that face...he's Clay Matthews v2.0.  And like that other stud, he's also from Wisconsin...you know him, Joe Thomas.

He had Cleveland Brown written all over him.

But because Watt is a Steeler, these proud homers around here could never bring themselves to even suggest that Watt may be the better player. I don't play like that. Not afraid to call it like I see it.

Dead on. Regarding Joe Thomas being a stud. He certainly was a physical specimen, and unlike Mild Garrett, he gave 100% every down.

I have inserted the same remembering of this DPOY asshole not only begging Jones to come.get him, but also telling Jerry Jones, and I quote, "Dak Prescott is the leader of our team". Then the dumb bastard called Jerry Jones, "Mister Garrett".

48 minutes ago, Flugel said:

Here's a little response to what went into winning DPOTY, which may or many not tell us anything we don't already know.  Before I share it, one comment that really stood out to me was from Pro Bowl LBer (and DPOTY finalist) for the Dallas Cowboys. He said watching film of Myles Garrett assured him there was no better choice for NFL Defensive Player of the Year.  He clarified how many guys on any 1 play that opponents assign to him.  He also clarified Garrett faces LTs (as opposed to RTs Watt matches up with).  

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-mailbag-what-makes-myles-garrett-the-defensive-player-of-the-year

Browns Mailbag: What makes Myles Garrett the Defensive Player of the Year?

Staff Writer Kelsey Russo answers your questions

Feb 12, 2024 at 03:44 PM

 

Kelsey Russo

Staff Writer

The Browns cleaned up at NFL Honors on Feb. 8 – with four awards total in Defensive Player of the Year, Coach of the Year, Assistant Coach of the Year and Comeback Player of the Year – and the 2023 season came to a close as the Chiefs won Super Bowl LVIII on Feb. 11.

Now the offseason continues, with the NFL Combine beginning Feb. 27 as the next touchstone of the offseason. So, we opened up the mailbag and answered your questions.

How can the DPOY Award to Myles Garrett be justified? — Gregg E., Orlando, FL

There's plenty of evidence to justify the award for Garrett. Let's first look at the numbers.

He led the Browns with 14 sacks for the 2023 season, which tied for third-most by a Brown in a season. He was tied for seventh in the NFL in total sacks for the season. Garrett is also the only NFL player to record at least 14 sacks in each of the past three seasons and the only player to record at least 10 sacks in each of the past six seasons. He is the Browns all-time sack leader with 88.5 over his seven-year career.

But sack production is not the only statistic that indicates a defensive player's effect on the game. It's the most obvious statistic, but we have to look beyond just this number.

Garrett finished the 2023 season with six quarterback hurries, 16 quarterback knockdowns and 30 quarterback hits. He totaled 37 pressures, alongside his 42 total tackles – 33 of which were solo tackles – and 17 tackles for loss. He also added three passes defended, four forced fumbles, one fumble recovery and one blocked kick.

Those stats indicate how he was able to affect quarterbacks throughout the league and how effective he was in the pass rush, as well as create key defensive stops. Garrett played a necessary role in their success in third down situations, as the Browns had the best third down percentage in the league at 29.1 percent, allowing just 67 third down conversions out of 230 attempts.

The blocked field goal kick against the Colts in Week 7 demonstrated another level of his athleticism, as Garrett leapt over the Colts offensive line and jumped to block the field goal attempt.

His impact also goes beyond stats. Teams game plan for Garrett, trying to find ways to take him out of the game. And yet, he still found ways to affect the game. I don't think we can look past those elements when evaluating his defensive dominance. Coach Kevin Stefanski summed it up pretty well in his end-of-season press conference about Garrett's overall impact.

"With Myles, the other unique thing about him, teams do everything in their power to make sure he doesn't make those disruptive plays," Stefanski said on Jan. 14. "So, he's getting a tight end, he's getting – the line is sliding to him, they're running away from him, those type of things. […] If you look at his impact overall, it was unbelievable."

 

I am not reading all this horseshit, but again Tom, you make my.point for me.

If Mild Garrett.is so good....why the fuck does his mother, this "Staff Writer" have to right a justification piece?

Garrett getting the DPOY award is nondifferent than Cher's induction into the R&R HOF.

Had, Watt, by far the better player recieved the award, Only.Browns fans would object. With Mild getting thenaward, 31 other groups of fans are crying, "bullshit".

The Hexatron?

I had no knowledge.of such a thing. Thoughts?

https://fox8.com/news/a-covered-stadium-option-for-the-browns-on-the-lakefront-what-we-know/

5 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

The defensive end that will be elected to the Hall of Fame as soon as he's eligible Myles Garrett? That guy?

But you running to Ghoolie's aid is always adorable. 🤣

Yoko Ono, Grammy.......that guy?

5 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

The defensive end that will be elected to the Hall of Fame as soon as he's eligible Myles Garrett? That guy?

But you running to Ghoolie's aid is always adorable. 🤣

He quotes facts, you can't refute him sonagaon, you tuen into a cahunnt and address the poster. Stick to the topic Francis.

Hoorta.....$2 billion?

Looknat the attached financial spread for the tiny 30,000 seat A's domed stadium. The service on debt is $1.4 billion over 10 years.

There is no no fucking way Cleveland is getting a new 70k seat retractable dome, starting with 2027 dollars? $3 billion easy.

My partners and I got to take a look at the proposed financing of the new athletic stadium in Vegas. This pile of shit is going to incur 1.4 billion dollars of new debt over the next 10 years. And then in 20 years or so the Athletics will want a new stadium in this big pile of shit will be there doing nothing, or being torn down by yet more taxpayer dollars.

It's no secret that I don't like Jimmy Haslam or his pandering wife. Even if I did like the guy I think the entire idea of building a new stadium is highway robbery to the fans and taxpayers.

Other than lining the pockets of a lot of politicians and construction companies and God knows what else can someone explain to me how exactly building a new stadium is going to benefit the fans or the citizens of Cleveland?

It seems a little fuck tardish to expect people in Cleveland to pay for a new stadium that's going to go to Brook Park. Instead of that why can't Brook Park pay for the new stadium? Why can't the fans who won a dome and all the sissy shit that goes along with that voluntarily pay for the new stadium? And I will again ask what's wrong with the existing Stadium?

I admit, I am not reading the horseshit replies to my post that seems to have riled the girl scouts.

I would bet that somewhere in his oral diarrhea Flugel injected Maurice Clarett.

Look guys,if I want shit I'll squeeze your heads. We aren't going to agree on ShitMyPantski, but when he gets canned, you will hear him illuminate my insight.

2 hours ago, FY56 said:

Maybe this was already mentioned... to be fair you did repeatedly state that Myles Garrett is nothing more than a zumba dance instructor.

For your information, he won defensive player of the year.

 

 

.....despite not showing up the last 6 games and losing nearly every statistical category to Watt over there in Pittspuke.

Now that is impressive!

FY56 there is no place for people like you on this board. You think for yourself and this fucks people up here.

If they read it, it must be true.

I have nicknamed the zumba instructor MILD GARRET. 

He has more than proven my words about him to be true.

I would love it if Tiamat composed a montage of the Texan's tackle attaching a dog leash to Mild and directing him out of the way all afternoon.

Garett is a physical specimen, but he is only a disruptor a few plays each game. He scares nobody.

Flugels, I saw the you responded to me..I didn't read.your bullshit because it was just copy and paste bullshit from you telling me that Crennel and Sewage were geniuses.

Oh yes, I also remember your vigorous support.of William Green. You assured me that my mocking of his drafting would be laughed at. Then you told me when I laughed at his inability to break a tackle I would eat my words.

Stefanski is a coffee fetcher.

If I am a betting man, his adhering to Depo and analytics makes '24 a 8-9 proposition.

You like dickhead coaches.

Go give me grief on another thread. This one is mental masturbation.

7 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

 

LOL! May I refer you to Orion's excellent post above. I'll have mine with cream and Splenda please Tom. LOL!☕🪗🛎️

I guess you guys haven't never had a life experience where you went against the boss.

Stefanski is a coffee fetcher. However, when this latest pile of shit philosophy flops, he will be the fall guy.

After that, when he speaks his mind, as it has happened time after time after time, you fucking geniuses will all be posting well, d'uh, I guess Ghoolie was right again.

Here is the difference between people like you imbeciles and people like me.

To you, Haslam owns the team, Haslam gets to call the shots, A coach has to abide. 

Do you believe that? Yes, you do..So does Syd, Dutch, Flugs and the rest of you.

I can only imagine the advice you would have give to blacks before the Civil Rights movement...."You can't tell the man what to do, he is the boss"

Nobody has ever achieved greatness with this beta, cowardly manner of existence.

Stefanski can buck the system. He can defy DePodesta, he can defy the owner.

Oh, boo hoo, he may get fired?

Again, the difference between me and you guys..You are afraid to lose.your job, afraid of consequences for doing the right thing. Afraid of making waves.

If you think this is a team on the right track, then you are a fool. Stefanski has only so much time as a head coach. That he chooses to do it as a coffee fetcher is shameful, and worse, it keeps this team mired in .500.

Middle of the road Stefanski, middle.of the road Browns.

The catfight here is in what information each of us uses to assess ShitMyPantsky.

What has always been an issue on this board with the Ghoolie (Not Ghouli, Ernie speeled it Ghoolardi, the station forced Ghoulardi), is that most here form their FO/HC opinions from what they read in the media.

Do you actually thingnthe Browns would let the public know that ShitMyPantski is a pussy? A coffee fetcher?

I form my assessment on what I know about life, business, and human nature.

My calls after 1 preseason game to fire Crennel and Sewage, then Hue Jackson were met with same Flugle-style mental masturbation of dissecting media releases that you imbeciles are defending ShitMyPantski with now.

Generally, the first thing out of a person's mouth is where the truth lies. Politicians for instance routinely say something stupid at the beginning of a discussion, and then spend 95% of the time releasing propaganda about how they never meant what they originally said.

My assessment of life is that the Grossi article in question hit home. The shock of this being true is so sickening that most Browns fans, like Flugel, are happy to accept propaganda as reality. It makes sleeping at night easier, doesn't it.

Sorry, but therebis something bizarre and abnormal about Stefanski. He reminds me of the beautiful Las Vegas call girl giggling as she carelessly pours $100 bills into a slot machine.

She is carefree because she has no skin in the game, she is spending Daddy's money, and as long as she puts out, Daddy doesn't care.

ShitMyPantski is too detached. Too calm. Too happy to be his own man.

If you think a man the caliber of Andy Reid or Bill Belichik would coach here, you are delusional.

ShitMyPantski is a coffee fetcher.