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6 minutes ago, syd said:

the only pic i didnt get was the one after the muffed punt,the other two were on the receivers

The guy has game, the team has game. The injuries exposed that some of our bench players are rock stars.

THIS is a team to be proud of.

Love the Browns. Flacco is the shit.

13 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Yes it's a short piece. With the bronze it could be a miniseries.

WSS 

 

The really disgusting part of this is that they have the technology to make calls 99.9%.accurate.

Do you remember the camera changes BEFORE 911? They installed panoramic 360 degree Camara technology on the roofs of every stadium. They would do stop.action and then show you a rotating photo and sto on the best angle.

After 911 they pulled the Camara crews off the roof for security reasons. They never returned.

The sick part is that the technology exists but for whatever reasons one wants to speculate, the NFL wants wiggle room to manipulate games.

Steve, this is no different than smash and grab crime. The tools exist to prevent Walmart, Target and mall shops from ever being mass burglarized. However, someone at the top has an agenda that is fed by animals robbing their stores.

I will say this, until I took $10 million of investment into my start up company, I had no fucking clue as too how influential money can be. Oh, I THOUGHT I did. But can you imagine someone who has it in their best interest to give your $5 million, just so they can fuck your technology and kill the company?

Agenda, Steve. The fan looks at the NFL and cries that they have to clean up the refs.

Conversely, the NFL looks at the complaints and plans, "how can we create a new quality control program to distract idiot fans the illusion that we are upping our game, while we maintain the ability to manipulate games?

Stever, this is by design.

3 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

For THEE last fucking time, because you're still trying to make the "no receivers" argument, but thinly veiled.   Brady and Bill won over half their SBs without Gronk.  

Go back to the Tampa boards, ya fucking mook. 

I think this is one of those debate topics that draws a lot of "definitive" opinions. Maybe less hyperbolic that "defense wins championships" but close. Add to that emotions about Belichik and this conversation turns into a mosh pit. Not my intention.

I liked Bill B from the time he came to the Browns. I told Hoorta around the Kosar drama that Bill would be a SB HC before the Brownsnever made an appearance.

No, I am not a football genius, I just liked Bill and his fetish for discipline and order. 

So, my assessment.....

Winning doesn't make a man a success or a great coach. Sometimes great coaches also win chamionships.

Bill benefitted from Brady. But I think Brady benefitted from Bill. They made each other better.

This business of detracting from a man's accomplishments because he had a great QB is idiotic. No coach ever won a championship wit a Mike Pagel or Mark Malone.

I think it's very difficult, I think impossible to create two dynasties because one can never duplicate all the ingredients that went into it, and nobodynis that smart to recognize who the ingredients for a new, different dynasty are.

In that, I think Bill has had his time. To slight him is to be an imbecile.

28 minutes ago, FY56 said:

Thank god that at least we are finally a formidable team and are winning.  No one is laughing at the Browns now. 

 

Haslam is. He is the village idiot.

Does Belichik get put out to pasture?

Brady without Belichik won a Superbowl. Conversely, Bill is looking like he could step in for the President. I think the coach has been tarnished a bit.

If Missourah beats the Buckeyes, will Dilday keep his job? How fucked up is it to say Missourah?

I will have the Spaghettah! Can I get a Zucchinah? I drive a Farrarah!

I like Pussah? (Well, that one is okay)

Fuckstick stuff aside, The Browns are one scrappy team. Or should I say scrappah?

How about Mississipah state?

Why is Ray Mancini wearing a wig?

8 hours ago, nickers said:

I feel bad for Brandon Staley only because his parents are my neighbors and are very nice people... I hope he learns and grows from this...

He will learn to bring vaseline to the games.

Imagine, it's December and we are debating what our favorite win has been, also still alive for the playoffs.

Add to that, life-saving open heart surgery and a tender offer for a start-up company Increated, and for me, 2022 has been a good year.

1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said:

Nah.. coming back from 14 down TWICE on the road vs the Ravens has to beat this. 

"I don't give a fuck about my Grandfather, I want a fucking iPhone under the tree"

-DY56-

This is the weirdest fucking team of all time. Flacco starts, now he is on the masturbation bench in favor of DTR. I guess that means DTR IS the guy. 

21 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

As with anything, this story has more nuance than most people ever want to touch on. 

1. There are quite a few members of the 1964 Browns who 100% believe they would not have won the NFL Championship if Paul Brown was still head coach. 

2. Interesting fact: Blanton Collier's win % as the Browns head coach was identical to Paul Brown's win % with the Browns in the NFL. 

3. But, yes, it is true that once Collier retired, one could say that was the true end of the "Paul Brown Era" of Browns history. Collier was the right hand man of Brown, and with him retiring, this is when I believe the Browns really became Art Modell's team in totality. The Browns from that point to the day they left became a mediocre also-ran. That's Modell's legacy.

Dutch, it is hard for any of us to know if The game had passed Paul Brown up. PB is an emotional topic for we Browns fans, although most unter 40 couldn't give a shit.

One of the reasons we long-timers hate Steeler fans is that none of them know Jack shit about their team before the Noll Era team.

Unfortunately, that has also become the case.with Browns fans except our time benchmark is 1999.

I hate what this team has become. Hell, I hate the NFL. But the masochism continues.

14 hours ago, hoorta said:

Yeah Tom, we've been down this road a million times. It warms the cockles of my heart that Modell eventually had to sell the team to Biscotti, because his cash flow wasn't enough to cover the interest on his loans. Oh he was massively successful as an entrepreneur. Buying the Browns in 1961 in what would be $2.5 million in todays dollars. Couldn't leave well enough alone, continually rolling over and refinancing his debt until it caught up with him.  

Brown would still be at the top of the heap in the record books if he had gone the Jerry Rice route and played until he couldn't anymore... But back then NFL players were working for relative peanuts. His 1964 $100,000 salary wouldn't even be worth $1 million today. And Modell was an ass Jim wasn't going to show for training camp, and was over in LA working on a move. Modell was dumb enough to try and make Jim play by his rules.  

Well, we agree, Modell caused the demise of a lot of good things.

Sadly, we went from a control freak, to two successive village idiots.

7 hours ago, Bob806 said:

My dad warned me not to get atttached to the Browns. He was a die hard, going all the way back to the AAFC days. He witnessed the Browns-Rams, Browns-Lions, & Browns NYGiants championship games/playoff games in person. 

He always sided with Paul Brown on everything. He liked Jim Brown the player, but it does sound like Modell listened to Brown, and fired Paul Brown for Collier. In his mind (my dad's), the Cleveland Browns died when Modell bought the team (1963).

Sadly, the stats don't lie. Yes, the Browns should have been able to dig out of this present mess (1999-present) a lot sooner, but competent ownership has basically ecaped Cleveland. Haslam tries but he can't help meddling. 

 

Check out the attachment from 1972's book, by Jack Clary, Cleveland Browns, Great Teams Great Years. 

Modell took perhaps the greatest franchise in football and ran it into the ground.

Present Browns record as of yesterday, 555-533-14 

I have read this, and your Dad and mine had the same belief about Modell. I always felt that Brown got Paul fired.

As a serial entrepreneur, I can tell you first hand that I have witnessed great idea turned to shit because an investor thought they knew more than the inventor.

Modell was one of those type of assholes. He had the best, but it hurt his ego to just sit back and be successful.

I never realize what a miserable cocksucker he was until the move.

Jim Brown and Ernie Davis both died on May 18. Eerie weird, choose your adjective.

Brown was not happy, I believe he got Art to fire PB.

Did PB really envision 2 guys like this in the same backfield, or would PB have traded Jim once Davis panned out?

Trading Bobby Mitchell without consulting Art was a fucktard thing to do.

Would Davis have been better than Jim?

Would JB dominate today? would he play injury free? with nutrition and training he would likely play same.speed at 245 -250.

How the fuck does a city and an owner lose the Browns? 

15 hours ago, nickers said:

Njoku worries more about celebrating than concentrating on making the actual catch before running... His act is getting tired...

He needs another vowel in his name.

Rules have changed to Make the game more exciting. The modern game is ultra high speed with ultra fast collisions. Compared to 1960 or 1970 I would bet dollars to donuts that injuries are at an all time high.

Time to add another 6 -10 players to the roster size?

The answer here is a simple one.

Did they give Flacco enough time with Medowlark Lemon to learn the Globetrotter offense?

On 11/27/2023 at 12:04 PM, Neo said:

Or those that don't understand why Flacco isn't activated yet, you DO NOT want Joe Flacco starting ANY regular season games! Unless the Browns move on from PJ Walker and bring in someone else, our QB's are DTR, PJ Walker, Flacco, and Harrison Bryant in an emergency. DTR getting hurt is like breaking a mirror kind of bad luck. I know they may have to elevate Flacco to the roster but it's something you shouldn't want. Ideally, the Browns needs the defense to do their thing DTR/Walker to get as many wins as possible and Flacco should only see the field in the post-season. Joe Flacco will not make it to the end of the season behind that line.

If both DTR and Flacco go down before the playoffs, we are (like the guy said in the movie American Sniper) "fucked like a football bat"

I don't want to see Flacco at all. Fuck him.

If I am the HC, I am opening every game sending 4 deep for hail mary passes. Every down.

1) Forces Prevent D

2)Stops the blitz and QB pressure.

3) With 1:21 left who cares if the QB scrambles. With 56 minutes left, it is a huge way to get easy yards.

4) Big open filed for the RB

5) OL Qb, and RBs don't get hurt.

Play 2inut3 football with 56 minutes left. Gobble up easy yards.

21 hours ago, nickers said:

You gotta remember... This pussy hates cold weather...

Color me pussy

19 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

But our imbeciles didn't know this means 🙈nothing apparently.

We have special imbeciles

5 hours ago, Neo said:

Unfortunately, this is where we are as a society. There can be a piece of videographic evidence that tells the truth but people will bend and shape reality to their liking. I been arguing with people about whether the hit on DTR was clean or not, the video speaks for itself. You can see DTR's helmet clearly move as he is contacted by the defender and his chin strap moving up into his mouth from the defenders helmet, probably what caused his bloody lip. It's in the rule book "forcible contact to the head/neck area" But there are always people out there that just deny everything if it's something they don't like. I bet there's even people on here that will defend that hit. I just wanna know why year in and year out our opponents rough up our players like this and nothing ever gets done about it. I saw Fitzpatrick didn't play in our game against the Steelers, I bet everyone's knees were safe that day😏

 

 

It is the shoulder that hit his jaw. With the tackler not pointing his helmet, that is a tough case to make.....however, if it was Mahomo, then yes, a flag.would have been thrown.