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Nice list. I grew up in Bay Village, so I mostly know west side eateries since I usually gravitate that way when seeking a good meal. Fratellos and Brunos get most of my attention, but I also like Buccis and Lucca West.

In a way I like 7th rounders. I see it as a way to get a jump on the undrafted guys....if that makes any sense.

I did at one point, at least until they started to cost $18. It not that $18 is prohibitive, it's just that it doesn't matter all that much. It's not like I seek to be a Jr. Mel or something.

Kind of reminds me of some football video game my kid had when he was young. You could make the player have this huge head...lol....some of you probably remember...I don't remember the name of the game anymore.

They will. Cleveland doesn't have the money. But, the state and country will chip in because they have some money. Why do you seem so intent to keep the team in the city when the city seems intent on being half assed about things? Sure, lets keep the team in a half ass stadium, spend a billion dollars, and in ten years have to build a domed stadium. Small thinkers.

I disagree. I don't see any advantage. At most it might be an equalizer. But as you said, it hasn't equalized a darn thing for us. I am sure the city will screw this one up like they screwed it up in 95.

Only a vocal minority of fans think playing in the cold and snow is cool and some sort of an advantage. I don't think players like playing in crap weather.

Draft Buzz has WR Ricky Pearsall at#54, so I will go with him even though Berry doesn't draft players of his type very often. Ricky is a good player.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Both have positives and negatives.

I think it could be sooner than that. Building a dome takes over two years. I am thinking by July things will be settled and shovels in the ground by August. Another factor to consider is a remodel on the lake to the extent required would require year-round construction. The team has no suitable place to play for a year or two. I don't think Columbus is a viable option, and forget about any stadium near Cleveland. The stadium in Canton probably can't even meet the needs of season ticket holders. My guess is the Browns season ticket holder number is around 40,000. Open ticket sales are fairly limited. Maybe 20-30,000 per game. Again, just a guess. The Haslams don't want that, and the NFL doesn't want that.

Something is going to happen. People can bash Haslam, but he is a man of action. He isn't going to wait while the Cleveland City Council dicks around. The last time they dicked around long enough to help push the team to Baltimore. The difference this time in Model isn't the owner who ran to the money. Haslam has the money to build the thing himself if it come to that.

Ok....fair enough on the Haslam comment. I really wasn't aiming the comment like you really thought that. As for space, I am talking open space. The city could evoke eminent domain laws, but then you would have to clear out blocks of building. Some in use, some not. Like I said earlier, it's not popular when the government starts kicking people and business out of their homes. I wonder how many people who live in Cleveland actually go to games? My thinking is Haslam and company have studied that question and the results say the most fans come from the west and south.

Like I said, they want the space, and Cleveland doesn't have it. Just to clarify a point I see going around, at least as I see it. The parking, I mostly agree. Haslam would have that, more than likely. As for the hotels and restaurants, I doubt Haslam wants to get in to the restaurant or hotel business. He would land lease a parcel to say Marriott...or Marriott franchisee. They would actually run the business and build the buildings. Haslam wants to be in the land business. He will just rent the lots or spaces to various companies on say a 10-20 year lease. At least that is how I would do it. Less headaches and liabilities. He would still control what type of business would be on location. I doubt he would approve plans to stick a 150 room Days Inn next to the stadium.

The difference is Chicago looks to have ample space on their lakefront. Just a quick look at google maps show several "parks" on the south side that don't look very parkish to me. All look more like wasteland that look like they were once industrial sites. Maybe the term park is for proposed industrial park? Some show climbing walls. Nothing you couldn't erase. All the mentioned are inside the city limits. I think space is the problem the city has. Without reclamation of private property, which it could do, be it very unpopular, finding a parcel large enough to fit what the Haslams want will be very challenging.

Good point on the number of games. It's one thing to hold season tickets to 8-9 gabe v 42 or whatever it is for basketball. As for infrastructure, everybody knows how that worked before when Maletti moved out there. The state and county would have to step up and improve things. It's not like it couldn't be done. But, I do think the Haslams want to be closer to city center. Brookpark is where it is going. It's the only spot that checks all the boxes. Having a option on the property requires earnest money I have no idea what that may have entailed, but it is probably in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. I doubt he would have put that up and risked to lose if he wasn't pretty damn sure he was going to purchase the property and pull the plug on the new stadium station.

LOL...I can see that smashed kick, somewhat knuckling at them or spinning horizontally.

I agree. I think we will be drafting more for next year than this year. Whoever we draft probably isn't playing a whole lot but might in 2025. Berry isn't addressing needs this year with drafted or signed rookies. He fills them with vets on 1-2 year deals. He seems to be drafting for future needs giving the rooks a year to learn the NFL and team system. We are finally at a point where it should be. If you are expecting a rookie to immediately fill a key role you are just gambling. That isn't a healthy place to be.

I just kick it through the endzone and start at the 30....Maybe early in the season, or pre season you see how things work and see where it averages but doing that prevents a return TD or long return.. Those usually kill you in a game.

In fairness, is fat bashing any different than gay bashing or racial bashing? Just saying....??

Kind of what I was getting at with all the subjective calls the refs have to make in a split second. What's considered a blow to the head by one ref is considered incidental contact by another. I am no fan of refs but they are put in a bad position by the rules committee. As Flugs pointed out, players can't always hit, lift, and drive to make the perfect tackle.

Other than a few positions, we could draft anybody. I think it will simply boil down to who we have rated as the BPA. At that point in the draft you start to have guys with relatively equal grades. In that case, positional impact would probably be the deciding factor. The caveat is positional impact might not be for this season. Next years roster might have some impact of who we might draft. As an example, we don't need a guard this year, but we might next year.

Rules don't change mid season. If anything it just won't be called. I hope it isn't called on everything. If you see the defender rolling up on the legs of a player, sure, call it. Kind of the same deal why they now call horsecollars. Players can get hurt, but I can see refs having to make all these subjective calls getting way out of hand. I'd rather see it a non penalty foul and make it a fineable foul.

Just a thought...with the new kick off rules, I wonder if we keep both kickers? York for kickoffs and Hopkins for place kicks. Maybe York for the bomb kicks. That way Hopkins hammy only has to jog on to the field, make a kick, then jog off. No doubt an out in left field thought, but not impossible IMO. There have been a few seasons in the past where we had 2 kickers active on gamedays. Groza and Cockroft...Cox and somebody else who I can't remember....maybe Bahr

Yep. Kickoffs could change a great deal. In the past speed on coverage units was important. Now, maybe not as much. With less ground to cover, it may look more like a defensive team playing against a run play. We might see more bulk on the field. These units could see some guards and centers on the return team to set up blocking. It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.