TypicalBrowns Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 There are 3 elite players on the team, one had a somewhat off day. Haden, Thomas, Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowburn Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Right now I live in Delaware Ohio. Please come visit. you gotta be kiddin me! I live in Delaware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 4-7 Pat Shurmur's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 you gotta be kiddin me! I live in Delaware! We talked about this already burn. My gf has a business in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunDawg Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 A healthy Campbell doesn't suck. Still a solid backup. Weeden will be out of the league next year.. A healthy Campbell doesn't suck? Ok, how many teams have dropped him already? Jason is afraid to throw up field, that's why he can't succeed. Solid backup? Only in desperate situation like ours. Starter, never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Italian DawgPound Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 4-7 Pat Shurmur's fault Come on. You can't compare this coaching staff with Shurmur & Co. We're much more competitive now. Even after such a shitty game vs Pissburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 There are 3 elite players on the team, one had a somewhat off day. Haden, Thomas, Gordon Gordon is no doubt good but the brunt of his yardage was in garbage time or via crossing routes against the zone with a lb covering. He's good tho no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 I really thought we'd have some sacks by now. What the hell is going on? our edges suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Come on. You can't compare this coaching staff with Shurmur & Co. We're much more competitive now. Even after such a shitty game vs Pissburgh. Actually we aren't. The defense is more solid but with Weeden at the helm for the whole season we are the same. Changing regimes gives the fan base hope until in 3 years we are the same team with Teddy Twatwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 We talked about this already burn. My gf has a business in town. Are you black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Are you black? What kind of question is that? And no I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowburn Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 We talked about this already burn. My gf has a business in town. I don't remember discussing this with you. Anyhow, maybe we can hook up for a beer sometime. I am not black. Are you? There aren't too many blacks in Delaware....not that it means anything. I am second generation Irish. People say I look like Mr French from the flick The Departed. I am not gay either (not that there is anything wrong with that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Turnovers were absolutely the reason we lost today. Obi with a terrible fumble when we're driving, Campbell staring a blitz right in the face and not protecting the football. It's what bad teams do to lose games, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 What kind of question is that? And no I'm not.well who's the 6'3" 220lb black guy thats been giving your Gf a bi-weekly cream pie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Italian DawgPound Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet. But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on. Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 I understand and share the frustration of this forum for another season thrown in the toilet. But I'm 100% sure this is just the Year One of a very good team coming out. Unlike the other recent seasons thrown in the toilet, we have a good foundation to build on. Tough to say after a disappointing home loss to the Steelers, but I'm optimistic about our future like I've never been in years. We do have a good foundation. We need a fucking a QB. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 We still have hope, we might get a chance to kill Pittsburgh's playoff aspirations in week 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Brown's go from a chance to obtain the six seed of the playoffs. Now with them losing TB and Jacksonville winning a top 5 pick in next years draft becomes very realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 What foundation? joe thomas, gordon, Cameron, DQ, mingo, haden? Mack is gone next year, no RB, no QB, no solid O line next year, no quality # 2 WR, no actual depth on D (linebackers, CB's ). We are still two years out for a winning season (9-7). quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Names I thew out I am happy with. supporting cast I am not. just being a realist. Hoyer looked good, Campbell was average and could have been a .500 win QB. If you only have one playmaker on D and maybe Two on O, makes you a what we are. A below average team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 quit throwing names out there, and realize that with AVERAGE QB PLAY (HOYER) we looked like a professional football team. Am I wrong? "Looked" like a decent team... for 2 games. This D is great, but the offense is going to need a lot more than just Brian Hoyer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great. Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee injury. So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Italian DawgPound Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great. Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee injury. So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future? You should not only look at the last two games. Look at the full season we had so far. I've seen a number of good signs of what will be the Browns to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 As far as QB is concerned, next years draft will be a crap shoot. Close your eyes and pray. Not sure why people think our D is great. Overrated is more like it. Going against an offensive line that has been decimated by injury and ZERO pass rush. RT did a great impression of a huge gate with a broken latch on a windy day. 2 crucial fumbles 2 weeks in a row by the one RB we have that doesn't look like he's running in quicksand. The one QB we have that looks like he belongs in the NFL will be returning from a serious knee injury. So, to recap, can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, can't protect our QB (what QB, ha ha), can't run the ball. Did anyone honestly see anything in the last 2 games to give us hope for the future? The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over. Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 The Steelers came in with a plan to throw the ball quickly. Horton is a good coach, but he got absolutely out schemed today. I don't know this or anything, but I'd bet the average release time for Big Ben today was 2.5, 2.6 seconds. It's literally impossible to get to a QB minus a broken play when the ball is going out that quickly. Horton for some reason refused to press and WR's were wide open on those 5-7 yard routes. As for the run, a lot of those chunk plays came after the game was pretty well decided. Say what you will, but it has to be God Damn demoralizing as a defense to get off the field just to have the offense run a couple plays or turn the ball over. Defense is very solid but not "elite" yet. We clearly could use an ILB and a 2nd corner. But as is the case, the defense is nowhere near the problem of this team. No QB=crappy football, period. Horton got outcoached for sure. The stoolers threw at least 10 wr screens and the Browns didn't stop any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 A franchise QB wouldn't have saved the game today, but it would have helped. You can't fumble. You can't drop passes that hit you in the hands. You absolutely can't give up 3rd down conversions. We couldn't get on Roethlisberger because he was being Roethlisberger. Meanwhile, Weeden seemed to have a magnet attached to him. The Steelers were and still are a better team than the Browns. It won't change until we get a QB who matters, a RT who can block, and a defense that can wrap players up and take them down on first contact. This is the second week in a row the Browns have played lazy, uninspired football. It makes me think that something big may be happening that they know and we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 52 passes, 16 runs, 0 sacks and 4 turnovers. Browns 34 passes, 34 runs, 5 sacks and 0 turnovers, Stoolers Lucky we only lost by 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sorry fellas, but the on-field abortion that has been the Cleveland Browns for the last 20 years has left my optimism tank running on fumes. Every year at this point of the season it's the SOS-- an offense whose motto is 'Three and out'. Running game that doesn't concern anyone. Receivers unable to get separation, OL using the famed 'Ole!' technique. I realize BR was getting rid of the ball quickly today but, c'mon---other than to get the sweat stink out, is there even a reason to wash his uniform after today's game? Next year we have 10 draft picks. And from the way it looks we'll once again be picking in the top 5-10. The same place we've been drafting for the last 14 years. I'm beginning to accept that if the Browns ever win the Super Bowl I'll be shitting my diaper and too far gone with dementia to enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sorry fellas, but the on-field abortion that has been the Cleveland Browns for the last 20 years has left my optimism tank running on fumes. Every year at this point of the season it's the SOS-- an offense whose motto is 'Three and out'. Running game that doesn't concern anyone. Receivers unable to get separation, OL using the famed 'Ole!' technique. I realize BR was getting rid of the ball quickly today but, c'mon---other than to get the sweat stink out, is there even a reason to wash his uniform after today's game? Next year we have 10 draft picks. And from the way it looks we'll once again be picking in the top 5-10. The same place we've been drafting for the last 14 years. I'm beginning to accept that if the Browns ever win the Super Bowl I'll be shitting my diaper and too far gone with dementia to enjoy it. Its true. For that reason I've morphed into more of an NFL fan than a straight up browns fan. The browns are my team but I have a lot of teams I support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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