StinkHole Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 The criteria will be liberal self-serving. college libs will say ya need college...etc. Lol..I guess you can say that. Listen to these Michigan products... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Property tax - once you own your own home, by God, you shouldn't have to keep paying "rent" on it. That's more like "protection money - you keep paying to be allowed to keep your home you paid off" I have never understood this. Might as well say you are renting your property from the government. You get behind on those taxes, they will sure as shit come and take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 As I stated earlier, just having a test be: who are your two Federal Senators? who is your representative in the US House of Representatives? That would probably eliminate 30-40 percent of voters To eliminate another 10-20 percent of voters what is the difference between debt and deficit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think the rest of the world should adopt a constitution exactly in structure like ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Lol..I guess you can say that. Listen to these Michigan products... So... I watched some of that. 1) Jesus that guy is annoying 2) Cutting together random encounters on the street can make any group look bad 3) Why are some on here so against education? Do you really think profs are just brainwashing students to be liberal? Do you just listen to people like thus to explain college to you? Is it just a way to discredit any educated "elitist"? What was your college experience Bunker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'd imagine that the engineering department has a lot less left-wing indoctrination then some of the liberal arts or political science departments. Just a guess.. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 What kind of job does a degree in liberal arts get you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 What kind of job does a degree in liberal arts get you? Teacher, cashier, street poet, etc. unless you go on to start your own business related to your degree or become an entertainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Teacher, cashier, street poet, etc. unless you go on to start your own business related to your degree or become an entertainer. To be fair, Liberal Arts includes degrees that can result in "legitimate" jobs. How about, Liberal Arts - STEM degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I have an idea for the OP - Shut the fuck up and enjoy your own shitty PC vomit inducing monarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Here is one of those "on the street videos" filmed from my hometown. It makes Strongsville look like shit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 What kind of job does a degree in liberal arts get you? Well when I went to college there were flyers all over the bulletin board pushing applications from recent graduates. The companies were corporations of various types but many of them specified any degree. I'm assuming that someone who puts the time and effort into graduating has a certain type of responsibility that would be valuable to a company. Especially opposed to 1 or 2 years dicking around in college which shows lack of same. I think things may be different in today's market and a more specified degree would be preferred. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Well when I went to college there were flyers all over the bulletin board pushing applications from recent graduates. The companies were corporations of various types but many of them specified any degree. I'm assuming that someone who puts the time and effort into graduating has a certain type of responsibility that would be valuable to a company. Especially opposed to 1 or 2 years dicking around in college which shows lack of same. I think things may be different in today's market and a more specified degree would be preferred. WSS Well, those are liberal arts degrees. Get a STEM major and you'll have specific jobs to apply for (some more broad than others. As an ME, I can really apply to almost any engineering job. Also, finance/consulting places take engineers as well. It is much easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I have an idea for the OP - Shut the fuck up and enjoy your own shitty PC vomit inducing monarchy. Oh hey there! How have you been? Missed you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 It is much easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc)I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it?? Holy fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it?? Holy fuck. As honorary interpreter for Woody on this board...I got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it?? Holy fuck. Pretty sure he only wrote it and posted it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it?? Holy fuck. Than not then, my apologies. It is easier to teach STEM majors business (business skills), than to teach non STEM majors quantitative skills.... Was it really that hard to understand? Lol Outside of the then/than typo, it makes perfect sense to me. Maybe it involves college talk with the major phrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Tbh woody, I didn't get what you were saying. I do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 The typo wasn't a problem - I didn't even notice and still don't care. "Business majors can't learn math/ quantitative skills" What is it you think a CPA does all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 But please, continue your arrogant douche thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 The typo wasn't a problem - I didn't even notice and still don't care. "Business majors can't learn math/ quantitative skills" What is it you think a CPA does all day? I never said can't. Consulting firms, trading firms, etc, recruited our engineering department. Not for engineering skills, but quantitative skills. They could fill in the gaps in business knowledge with on the job training. I'm saying that, it is easier to do this than take your average BBA and teach them the engineering skills or technical skills. I'm just relaying what I've heard from recruiters and others. I'm not saying smart business majors don't exist, I'm not saying they aren't good at math, etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 No you're right. You never said can't. But it's what you meant. I think you're thinking about an online business administration degree which is the business/Econ equivalent of a construction management degree in the engineering world. Apples / oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 No you're right. You never said can't. But it's what you meant. I think you're thinking about an online business administration degree which is the business/Econ equivalent of a construction management degree in the engineering world. Apples / oranges. Well thank you for telling me what I meant. Clearly you would know more about what kind of business jobs engineering majors get recruited for than the engineering major that graduated last summer...and attended multiple company info sessions...and a career fair with 300 companies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Legacy Fan Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 So now it's who gets hired by what jobs blah, zzzzzz...... Keep editing and revising your point. (You're on your 3rd if anyone wants to keep track) What do you want me to dispute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Not to defend him but I think I understood what he meant. That is he believes it would be easier to teach math and science majors business science than vice versa. I think he is wrong as there are different skill sets needed to succeed in different endeavours. As a matter of fact Id bet theater majors would do a helluva lot better in politics then mathematicians. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 So now it's who gets hired by what jobs blah, zzzzzz...... Keep editing and revising your point. (You're on your 3rd if anyone wants to keep track) What do you want me to dispute? What the hell are you talking about? How have i changed my point once? You started telling me what I thought, and what I meant, which is fucking hilarious. I gave you evidence why I would know what I'm talking about. I'm not backtracking in any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Not to defend him but I think I understood what he meant. That is he believes it would be easier to teach math and science majors business science than vice versa. I think he is wrong as there are different skill sets needed to succeed in different endeavours. As a matter of fact Id bet theater majors would do a helluva lot better in politics then mathematicians. WSS Obviously there are different skill sets required for different jobs. For some business jobs you need to have soft skills (which, I mean, you need in anything), negotiating skills, etc etc. You are both taking my statement and making it more than what I said. STEM majors go through 4 years of high level math and science. They understand numbers. They have whatever quantitative skills, problem solving skills, etc you could need for a business major. Some companies choose to take these students, the ones that also have the interpersonal skills you may need, and mold them into the business world. I have not yet seen a technical company looking business majors to fill technical roles... Theater majors probably would do better in politics than math majors. Congrats. That really isn't at all what I'm talking about, but ok. (That opens up a whole other discussion about how I think we need more STEM majors in politics). Investment banking, consulting, trading, etc. All of these are traditionally pulling from the business side but they recruit engineers and other STEM majors as well. Find an engineer with interpersonal skills and a willingness to learn, and you're golden. (The stereotype of engineers being awkward and unsocial, from my time at Michigan, isn't really that true. Those kids definitely still exist, but in some majors [like comp sci] much more than others). So, again, from everything I have seen, read and been told, by knowledgeable people, it is easier (companies would rather) take STEM majors and teach them business skills than to take business majors and teach them "STEM" skills. Are we good now? Geez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Let's recap: Woody: "it's easier to teach business to STEM majors than it is to teach math/quantitative skills to business majors" legacy: "that's a ridiculous statement." Woody: "Then/than grammar harrumph" Legacy: "Math & quantatative skills are predominantly what business majors are taught" Woody: "I graduated with an engineering degree and we are highly recruited by business firms all over. I should know- I just graduated and went to multiple company info sessions and a career fair that would make PT Barnum shit his pants" Legacy: "I'm not talking about career fairs. why do you insist on changing the subject about which we are disagreeing on?" Woody: "now you're telling me what I meant. I'm not back-tracking" You might make the greatest politician in the history of ever. Honestly. I don't even know how to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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