MLD Woody Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 You seemed to have heavily edited your own responses in your summary.... ... fuck it dude, I don't care. It doesn't affect me (probably), and it doesn't affect you. If you don't believe me, it couldn't matter any less. I'm telling you what I've seen, what I've read, what I've been told first hand by recruiters for these companies. If you chose to not believe me, then that is your choice. Good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 You've missed the point entirely, kids meal. You started off botching a statement. I merely suggested you clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Go back and reread your post I first commented on. I copied it verbatim in my summary ( the rest of *both* of our posts got some artistic license) I know what you were trying to say, but you didn't say it. So I commented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 You responded to one of my first posts with "Business majors can't learn math/quantitative skills". You put quotes around a comment to signify it was something I said, except I didn't say that at all. Then, you felt compelled to tell me what I actually meant... because apparently you knew better than I do. Now, after already displaying the fact you didn't know what I said or what I was talking about, you're going to tell me to go back and reread my own posts? Haha. After already taking what my comments said, and saying they meant something else? Hahaha. Right, I'm totally the one that has missed the point entirely........ Now, for real this time. Good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 You put quotes around a comment to signify it was something I said, except I didn't say that at all. Woody ********************************************************** Woody, you are singling out one way of using quotation marks. There are direct and indirect uses of quotation marks. As in, quoting exactly what you said, that's DIRECT quoting, and then paraphrasing what you said, which is INDIRECT quoting. They are both valid. Often, when someone paraphrases what you said, (indirect quoting), they are trying to explain what they think you meant with the words you posted, even though you meant to say something different. Not always someone else's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Nope. Here is my first response, kids meal: MLD Woody said It is much easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc) I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it?? Holy fuck. You still think its easier to "teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc"? Business majors do nothing but "math/ quantatative skills" *That's* what I was contesting. How are you not understanding this? Had you said "easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major *STEM*" this wouldn't have been an issue. But thank you for shedding light on the importance reading comprehension ought to still play in higher education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 So yes. I did know what you were trying to say, but you didn't/ couldn't. I'm right, you're wrong. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Does woody ever stand behind anything he says? It always seem misconstrued from his end and he never means what he really meant. That is of course if he stands behind anything at all. I rarely see text of how he feels about certain issues. Other than religion sucks. Gays are awesome. And global warming. Does that pretty much sum up woody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 You give him too much credit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Does woody ever stand behind anything he says? It always seem misconstrued from his end and he never means what he really meant. That is of course if he stands behind anything at all. I rarely see text of how he feels about certain issues. Other than religion sucks. Gays are awesome. And global warming. Does that pretty much sum up woody? Hates Ohio State and thinks only arithmetic should be taught in schools. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 So now feelings are good? Geez... Make up your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I think feelings and emotions are great. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I think feelings and emotions are great. WSS Sith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 So now feelings are good? Geez... Make up your mind They are good...if you cant keep them under control. I noticed you can't seem to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 when emotions dominate a person... and take the place of rational, logical appraisement of reality, and is the sole mode of problem solving, it is a clear indication that it is the innate psychological defense mechanism... of hard core liberals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 But remember, fear is not an emotion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I might be of some help on the matter of business/science majors learning new skills, having first done a mathematics course and then a finance masters. We had people from all backgrounds in the finance course, from chemical engineers to econ/MBAs, and as a trend (though not exclusively) the people from scientific backgrounds did better. It *is* a lot easier for someone from a STEM background to learn about debt/equity ratio, portfolio management and corporate finance than it is for someone from a pure business background to learn stochastic calculus and financial statistics. Maybe I've slightly misinterpreted the argument here and if so I apologise, but there's my two penneth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Anecdotal evidence time!!! Yes!!! Okay, here's mine: My Dental School class graduated 100 people. 80-85% were traditional biology, chemistry majors. We also had poly-sci, history, Econ, studio art (sculpture specifically- she killed it in wax carving class), graphic design, IT. A microbiologist graduated #1 & a microbiologist graduated 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Anecdotal evidence time!!! Yes!!! Okay, here's mine: My Dental School class graduated 100 people. 80-85% were traditional biology, chemistry majors. We also had poly-sci, history, Econ, studio art (sculpture specifically- she killed it in wax carving class), graphic design, IT. A microbiologist graduated #1 & a microbiologist graduated 100. That's your anecdotal evidence time. When you look at a trend of a *business* school with a few thousand students over a couple of years, it becomes statistically significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 And this is presumably the part where your 'anecdotal evidence' - a smaller sample from a dentistry school - is somehow more admissible than my 'anecdotal evidence' -a larger sample from a business school - on the subject of people learning business/finance from different backgrounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Yeah. You're right. My dental school only enrolled and graduated 1 class of 100 students. Good catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 That's all you're citing as any kind of evidence though? I mean, apart from just calling Woody stupid (and I'm not blaming you for that ) you've basically not discussed anything outside of your one graduate class? Incidentally, that's presumably a conversion course? I didn't realise those existed for dentistry, I would have thought it would require the full however many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 It's a four year doctorate just like the other hundred dental schools in the States. We all enrolled at the same time, and graduated 4 years later, thus we are a "class" I only like doing this because y'all (well woody infinitely more than you) gets very defensive over personal educational background. This started because he made an "analogy-type" statement that would have been thrown out if it were found on any kind of standardized test (and likely prompted melt-downs of 15 yr old pre-STEM students across the US). I just voiced my qualm with it. And we all watched him demonstrate with words what a "blue screen" looks like on a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 When it comes to education, I tend to just pipe in when it gets relevant to me, like it did here, because I can add some value to the conversation, which I hope I did. It's a bit different over here, so it's sometimes useful to get a different perspective on things like this. Didn't realise dentistry was also a post-graduate thing - what was your major, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 The reason I never provided any evidence until now is because I actually agree with the argument/statement he thought he was making. Instead, he made a statement didn't make any sense and I commented that it was A ridiculous statement. And next, Sparks and smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Econ & Biology Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Fair enough. Like cal said about Ben Carson (I think), Woody sometimes misses the point he's trying to make, and often I'm the only person around who understands what he's saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 .... I really don't think it was that difficult of a statement to grasp. Legacy also responded to it with quotes around something I never said or attempted to say. I guess if you just decide on your end what I'm saying, then it might not make any sense. My suggestion would be to just read my posts as is though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 .... I really don't think it was that difficult of a statement to grasp. Legacy also responded to it with quotes around something I never said or attempted to say. I guess if you just decide on your end what I'm saying, then it might not make any sense. My suggestion would be to just read my posts as is though... And as I said at the time, I struggled to grasp what you were saying, before clarifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 It's a four year doctorate just like the other hundred dental schools in the States. We all enrolled at the same time, and graduated 4 years later, thus we are a "class" I only like doing this because y'all (well woody infinitely more than you) gets very defensive over personal educational background. This started because he made an "analogy-type" statement that would have been thrown out if it were found on any kind of standardized test (and likely prompted melt-downs of 15 yr old pre-STEM students across the US). I just voiced my qualm with it. And we all watched him demonstrate with words what a "blue screen" looks like on a human being. It wasn't an analogy. I guess analogy-type? But I'm not sure what that is Really, it wasn't that defensive. In all of these instances where you seem to think I'm being defensive, I'm not just replying to myself... I made a statement. You disagreed and tried to morph it into something I never said. I provided my anecdotal evidence, if that's how you want to describe it, of how "business" companies recruit a top engineering school and what I've heard first hand. Chris presented his anecdotal evidence. "blue screened"? How? Again, if you just actually read my post, instead of twisting it into what you saw fit, there probably wouldn't be any issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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