TexasAg1969 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Unfortunately he was chosen even before JF and has that image to compete with. Which one looks like they will do anything to change the way they play the game and brings that intensity/fire now to every game and practice? Which one shows the greatest potential right now to up their game to another level and work their way into a starting role at some point? Who really shows they want it bad as a Browns player? He needs to hang out with JF and let some of that desire to excel rub off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 If he spent all summer with Joe Haden and it didn't rub off, nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 If what fans and media are saying seriously affect his play, he's not cut out to be a professional athlete.Maybe Gilbert needs his own hype man for confidence like Ali had Bundini Brown. COVER YOUNG MAN COVER.....AAAARRRRRRRHHHHH ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I wasn't trying to be funny. I was letting you know how ridiculous your position is on it. I don't know if kids growing up now are just made of Charmin and presume everyone else is or should be as influenced by what someone says on social media as they tend to feel. Others didn't grow up with needing everyone to tell them how they are wonderful and unique snowflakes.And not everyone lives in your " I walked uphill both ways to school in 6 feet of snow", the one where men ignored their feelings and treated women like property, then puff out their chest after "railing" the wife while she snickered at your lack of virility. Your world is so much better. Cause it allows you, supposedly an adult male, to get overly emotional and irrational over a game. You watch a male soap opera, yuk it up to the point where you throw any value judgements out the window and act a fool because? So you think being a sports fan is cause enough to act like a like child with you remarks? At least woman understand soap operas are entertainment, and thus should be considered as such. I get it....the team owes you something because you buy the hear and go to the games. But Cleveland has some downright terrible fans....people that are so obsessed (lmao) that sports affects their lives. Sorry, rather pathetic in my eyes. Sports are supposed to be fun, but so many Cleveland fans think winning in sports actually means something. Its just an inferiority complex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Unfortunately he was chosen even before JF and has that image to compete with. Which one looks like they will do anything to change the way they play the game and brings that intensity/fire now to every game and practice? Which one shows the greatest potential right now to up their game to another level and work their way into a starting role at some point? Who really shows they want it bad as a Browns player? He needs to hang out with JF and let some of that desire to excel rub off. Even before our other bust? You are reduced to comparing Johnny to Gilbert to make him look good? Johnny still hasn't done shit, if I were betting on which one would end up starting more games in the NFL, I would still go with Gilbert, but they are both huge-ass disappointments so far. Johnny may have the right attitude this year, but where are the big-time NFL play making skills? Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And not everyone lives in your " I walked uphill both ways to school in 6 feet of snow", the one where men ignored their feelings and treated women like property, then puff out their chest after "railing" the wife while she snickered at your lack of virility. Your world is so much better. Cause it allows you, supposedly an adult male, to get overly emotional and irrational over a game. You watch a male soap opera, yuk it up to the point where you throw any value judgements out the window and act a fool because? So you think being a sports fan is cause enough to act like a like child with you remarks? At least woman understand soap operas are entertainment, and thus should be considered as such. I get it....the team owes you something because you buy the hear and go to the games. But Cleveland has some downright terrible fans....people that are so obsessed (lmao) that sports affects their lives. Sorry, rather pathetic in my eyes. Sports are supposed to be fun, but so many Cleveland fans think winning in sports actually means something. Its just an inferiority complex... You inferred a whole lot from me telling someone that an adult man should not be upset over what is said about him on social media or in a news paper. I am sure your husband gets an earful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's all the more proof, that ya have to draft players who love the game, and have the character to be a good addition to your locker room and stay on the field..., and a work ethic that gets them successful quickly. This last draft shows that throught the last round. Gilbert may still all of a sudden start proving that he can be a stud cb. I just don't see the love for the game, which is probably a distraction on the field. Who knows, it's just trying to figuring out what's goin on with him. We'll just have to hope he has his "personal issues" resolved soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Gip. I am a huge fan of yours. Yours are among the posts that I always make a point of reading... But like the classic Great White track, I'm afraid this is a case of Once Bitten, Twice Shy... I'm not a hater... just a observer of human behavior... dude got beat 11 times in scrimmage, and smoked in the Redskins game... I think by this point, he just wants to go away and hide, and hope nobody notices him. Wish I was wrong. Maybe all that is true.....but I have seen guys go a couple of years in the league before the light bulb goes on. It can happen here, and considering what the team has invested in him I think they need to give him time. The alternative is if we have so many people that are apparently so much more talented than him that we cannot let them go thus denying him a dedicated roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 You inferred a whole lot from me telling someone that an adult man should not be upset over what is said about him on social media or in a news paper. I am sure your husband gets an earful. Must be on da rag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And not everyone lives in your " I walked uphill both ways to school in 6 feet of snow", the one where men ignored their feelings and treated women like property, then puff out their chest after "railing" the wife while she snickered at your lack of virility. Your world is so much better. Cause it allows you, supposedly an adult male, to get overly emotional and irrational over a game. You watch a male soap opera, yuk it up to the point where you throw any value judgements out the window and act a fool because? So you think being a sports fan is cause enough to act like a like child with you remarks? At least woman understand soap operas are entertainment, and thus should be considered as such. I get it....the team owes you something because you buy the hear and go to the games. But Cleveland has some downright terrible fans....people that are so obsessed (lmao) that sports affects their lives. Sorry, rather pathetic in my eyes. Sports are supposed to be fun, but so many Cleveland fans think winning in sports actually means something. Its just an inferiority complex... What do you get when you say less-than-complimentary things about Justin Gilbert? This rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 What do you get when you say less-than-complimentary things about Justin Gilbert? This rant. and what did we get when you said less than negative things about manziel..... a year full of rants AND Retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Tacosman has just added Choco (Da Burgh) to the Hater aid list. Enjoy till the Crow fly's or Trump your Prez. C Amigo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I wasn't trying to be funny. I was letting you know how ridiculous your position is on it. I don't know if kids growing up now are just made of Charmin and presume everyone else is or should be as influenced by what someone says on social media as they tend to feel. Others didn't grow up with needing everyone to tell them how they are wonderful and unique snowflakes. You are trying to be funny. I realize the attempts are so lame that you now have to deny it to save face, but you would be better served by just admitting it. Your generation didn't grow up with social media so your comments on it are from a position of ignorance. If you can tell me where I said or even implied that they need to be told they're special or anything close to it, I'd be shocked. There's a difference between just not bashing a guy for every. little. thing. he. does. (despite him actually playing ok) and coddling him. You can only see extremes and not the shades of gray. But then again people like that is what weak sarcasm is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 and what did we get when you said less than negative things about manziel..... a year full of rants AND Retard. You are trying to be funny. I realize the attempts are so lame that you now have to deny it to save face, but you would be better served by just admitting it. Your generation didn't grow up with social media so your comments on it are from a position of ignorance. If you can tell me where I said or even implied that they need to be told they're special or anything close to it, I'd be shocked. There's a difference between just not bashing a guy for every. little. thing. he. does. (despite him actually playing ok) and coddling him. You can only see extremes and not the shades of gray. But then again people like that is what weak sarcasm is for. My generation, however, did grow up with social media and not only do I work in the field, I also played Division 1 collegiate football...so I feel like my opinion on the matter comes from a position of experience. To be an athlete at any sort of advanced level, you have to have a thick skin. To be an athlete at the professional level requires a skin tenfold thicker. Every move will be scrutinized and every mistake, regardless of size, will be blown out of proportion. If Gilbert is truly getting the yips from what he's reading on Twitter, he shouldn't be a professional athlete. It's no different than not making the cut due to a lack of talent or lack of willpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 My generation, however, did grow up with social media and not only do I work in the field, I also played Division 1 collegiate football...so I feel like my opinion on the matter comes from a position of experience. Really? Where? Just curious. To be an athlete at any sort of advanced level, you have to have a thick skin. To be an athlete at the professional level requires a skin tenfold thicker. Every move will be scrutinized and every mistake, regardless of size, will be blown out of proportion. If Gilbert is truly getting the yips from what he's reading on Twitter, he should NOT? be a professional athlete. It's no different than not making the cut due to a lack of talent or lack of willpower. Is that fix what you really wanted to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 My generation, however, did grow up with social media and not only do I work in the field, I also played Division 1 collegiate football...so I feel like my opinion on the matter comes from a position of experience. Really? Where? Just curious. Coastal Carolina. Technically still D1. To be an athlete at any sort of advanced level, you have to have a thick skin. To be an athlete at the professional level requires a skin tenfold thicker. Every move will be scrutinized and every mistake, regardless of size, will be blown out of proportion. If Gilbert is truly getting the yips from what he's reading on Twitter, he should NOT? be a professional athlete. It's no different than not making the cut due to a lack of talent or lack of willpower. Is that fix what you really wanted to say? Yup. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I think threads got merged and l got confused, but someone said something about K. Williams way back yonder. Like a comparison thing to Gilbert. I haven't heard much about him this camp though. I know he's hamstrung right now, but has anyone heard how he was doing before that? I had it in the back of my mind he was going to have a breakout year but just haven't heard much about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 You are trying to be funny. I realize the attempts are so lame that you now have to deny it to save face, but you would be better served by just admitting it. Your generation didn't grow up with social media so your comments on it are from a position of ignorance. If you can tell me where I said or even implied that they need to be told they're special or anything close to it, I'd be shocked. There's a difference between just not bashing a guy for every. little. thing. he. does. (despite him actually playing ok) and coddling him. You can only see extremes and not the shades of gray. But then again people like that is what weak sarcasm is for. You and Choco sure do read a lot into things even if they aren't there. Also, I am in my early 30s so I definitely grew up with social media but I guess I missed the beginning of the "everyone's opinion effects me" wave of thinking. I wasn't the one trying to say that what fans and sports writers say is effecting Gilbert. If he can't be an adult and tune out distractions then he is in for a rough life. Ultimately it will be his talent level and work ethich, not what some fans think of him, that will determine how far he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Kinda like how you read the whole cuddling and telling him he's special (or whatever it was you said; not worth scrolling up for on mobile).... The memes in the media definitely bleed into the locker room and the coach's thinking. Gilbert also has to do interviews routinely. You guys are acting as though he's being scrutinized fairly and the same as anyone else would, and he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Kinda like how you read the whole cuddling and telling him he's special (or whatever it was you said; not worth scrolling up for on mobile).... The memes in the media definitely bleed into the locker room and the coach's thinking. Gilbert also has to do interviews routinely. You guys are acting as though he's being scrutinized fairly and the same as anyone else would, and he's not. If you are picked in the first, you will have more expectations of you. That is plain and simple. If you come in and even have teammates talking about how you need to grow up, then I don't think any following scrutiny from media members or fans should be shocking. That said, he shouldn't be concerned with the opinions of anyone outside of that locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 FFS, have we really devolved to the point where it's being argued that Gilbert's disappointing play is due to the meanie comments on social media? Gilbert's play and focus are being disrupted because the neanderthal crotchety graybeards on the Browns Board aren't being positive enough in their comments? We've been invaded by the vaginas from Oberlin College. Price check on Midol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 FFS, have we really devolved to the point where it's being argued that Gilbert's disappointing play is due to the meanie comments on social media? Gilbert's play and focus are being disrupted because the neanderthal crotchety graybeards on the Browns Board aren't being positive enough in their comments? We've been invaded by the vaginas from Oberlin College. Price check on Midol. +1 ( Just wanted to quote it so others would have to read it again ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 We've been invaded by the vaginas from Oberlin College. LMFAO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Z is going to have to provide trigger warnings and safe spaces for our more sensitive members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 LMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Price check on Midol. Attention Browns-Mart shoppers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 FFS, have we really devolved to the point where it's being argued that Gilbert's disappointing play is due to the meanie comments on social media? Gilbert's play and focus are being disrupted because the neanderthal crotchety graybeards on the Browns Board aren't being positive enough in their comments? We've been invaded by the vaginas from Oberlin College. Price check on Midol. Oberlin is one of the best colleges in the country....you could only wish that you could have attended there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Do they have WR's with hands? Click on the forward button twice. https://home.oberlin.edu/ Our scout is on to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Ace is so impressively tough. I bet his junk is huge. He could probably beat me in a bar fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Oberlin is one of the best colleges in the country....you could only wish that you could have attended there. Liberal Farts college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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