Tour2ma Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Going to hit Mexico goods with import tariffs... you know... to make them "pay for the wall." lol... 20%... wait... not 20%... could be less... probably less... ... but they are definitely paying by raising the price of their goods that Americans buy... ... but Americans aren't paying for the wall... ... even when they pay the higher prices that will be charged... ... for the higher cost goods... ... that the sellers pass through... ... to the Americans who buy them... ... without paying for the wall... Or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Oh STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Oh STFU. no you stfu tour's abs right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Tariffs just get added on to the value of goods sold. The companies won't take a loss. American consumers will fit the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Mexico will pay for the wall. End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Logic, you also said no way in fucking Hell would Trump ever have a snow balls chance in hell of becoming President. Well?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Logic, you also said no way in fucking Hell would Trump ever have a snow balls chance in hell of becoming President. Well?....... He beat the odds. Hillary was unpalatable enough to get beat by Trump even after having almost all of the media in the bag. However, the guy can't defy basic economics. If you add a tariff (in the case of Trump) or a tax (in the case of Obama) to a good, the person buying it will end up getting fucked over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 If people look for a cheaper alternative to the now overpriced Mexican good, the tariff would be generating minimal return. The U.S. tax payers are getting stuck with it. If you are cool with that and want the wall then you won't care. Others don't like the idea of the wall or think it is a money pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 doesn't take much of a tariff to quelch the inequalities in our trade with them. they ARE going to pay for the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 doesn't take much of a tariff to quelch the inequalities in our trade with them. they ARE going to pay for the wall. Would you pay 20% (the proposed amount) on an item if you could get it cheaper from somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 no, meaning they have to lower their stupid prices.. haha. They should stfu and realize that they have been riding out American gravy train for too long. and, I will be DELIGHTED to pay a lot more for AMERICAN products actually being made right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Looks like I'll buy more California avocados Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 How many more years can the US keep up with a negative trade deficit and not just with Mexico? We can't keep spending more and more on imports. In 94 we imported 64 billion a year from Mexico now 235 billion per year. The playing field needs to be leveled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 The saying is true that corporations don't pay taxes that any taxation they get they pass on to the consumers. So by trying to penalize Mexico it is true they will just raise their prices accordingly to consumers in the United States. But that also means other things that our own goods will sell better with our goods being priced more competitively against Mexico's newly higher priced goods. Seems like that would be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Do we have a domestic supply to replace everything coming from Mexico? Even if we do, domestic suppliers can just raise their price now, but still be under the taxed Mexico good. A lot of ways this lands back on the consumer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Who's alt is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 How many more years can the US keep up with a negative trade deficit and not just with Mexico? We can't keep spending more and more on imports. In 94 we imported 64 billion a year from Mexico now 235 billion per year. The playing field needs to be leveled. But this would do nothing to fix that. What are you going to export to mexico to make up for it? The US will pay for the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 We will use Illegal Alien labor to build it. Work shall set you free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I have a feeling that you guys have not seen with your own eyes what the cartels get up to, and they have absolutely no opposition except each other. The police and military are clueless. I don't care who pays for it initially, build that wall. They'll be begging to pay for it as soon as they figure out they're getting the dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert on Mexico or the border in any way, and we obviously don't have a third world country on our doorstep here, but in many ways the EU - being comprised of 28 mostly autonomous but also bound by some laws, freedom of goods and movement - is quite similar to the US system of states being mostly autonomous but bound by some common (federal) laws and freedom of movement and goods, and in that way (which is the way that scares a lot of people, they see the similarities and are terrified of turning europe in to the US, just think about that for a moment) we do have a border with third (maybe second?) world countries. These countries, of course, have different issues to Mexico etc but they each present their own issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Do we have a domestic supply to replace everything coming from Mexico? Even if we do, domestic suppliers can just raise their price now, but still be under the taxed Mexico good. A lot of ways this lands back on the consumer I wonder how many people have said they'd be happy to pay a little extra for goods made in America? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 The same people complaining about taxing Mexican oil also complain about the pipeline. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Also if American businesses can't save money in Mexico and can save it in America what's their incentive to stay in Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I wonder how many people have said they'd be happy to pay a little extra for goods made in America? WSS I'd be curious as to who actually means it. I've seen people raise pure hell when their pack of cigs goes up 5cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I know you Whiney pussy liberals don't know how to negotiate from a point of strength. Let's put it this way: Mexico needs the US. The US does not need Mexico. There are dozens of countries that can do the same thing Mexico does. The US on the other hand is the wealthiest country in world history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I do. Never have bought a foreign car and I never will. Same for other products. I'm sure that "american" car, has parts sourced from foreign countries. The whole, "Buy" American, doesn't mean the same thing it did 20 - 30 years ago. Did you check to see what tires came on your car, if they weren't Goodyear or Cooper, guess what, they were built buy a foreign owned manufacturer. Car's built in the USA are basically assembled, with many components coming from somewhere else other than the USA. Hell, even foreign owned manufacturers are building cars here in the USA with American workforce... How ya feel about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Ford was assembling cars and making 80% of the parts in Mexico, same with the other American car companies. Same with non-American car companies (like VW). The US is such a big consumer of automobiles that it makes sense for the big auto makers to have plants on this side of the world rather than importing them across an ocean - some have chosen the US, others have chosen Mexico. Ford's biggest seller, the fusion, was made in Mexico until recently - I'm not sure what they're still making over there but they fairly recently announced they were moving more small car production south of the border. Not sure how much that changed since President Trump, I know they cancelled some of their plans to move south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I'm sure that "american" car, has parts sourced from foreign countries. The whole, "Buy" American, doesn't mean the same thing it did 20 - 30 years ago. Did you check to see what tires came on your car, if they weren't Goodyear or Cooper, guess what, they were built buy a foreign owned manufacturer. Car's built in the USA are basically assembled, with many components coming from somewhere else other than the USA. Hell, even foreign owned manufacturers are building cars here in the USA with American workforce... How ya feel about that? How do you feel responding to a clear troll account (probably from Diehard) on the poli board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 How do you feel responding to a clear troll account (probably from Diehard) on the poli board? I have no troll accounts. But I'm honored that I get under your thin skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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