ATENEARS Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 With the recent attack on concert goers in Las Vegas last night. How safe do you feel attending an NFL or other U.S. major sporting event? What changes in security measures do you foresee at future events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 The security at Wembley stadium last week for the Ravens Jaguars game was most I’ve seen over here at a sporting event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I occasionally attend A&M football and basketball where security is excellent with restrictions on what you can take in and search of all purses, handbags, etc. along with metal detectors you walk through. There are no "high ground" vantage points to either the FB stadium or the indoor BB court. I don't go to concerts because of hearing problems. Too much fan noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Ain't no luck, I learned to duck. No such thing as risk free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Whatever security they would have had in the Las Vegas concert it would not have stopped the Las Vegas murderer/shooter who was perched in a hotel room and not actually at the event. I don't know how they stop something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I don't see it changing much. We aready get wanded, clear bags, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 No matter what they have you doing or going thru, 9 times out of 10 it is still a person either making or close to minimum wage, therefor they don't give a Shmuck. Oh there will be police there but mostly just there watching the people working the gates. It is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 This is why I rarely go to games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 2 hours ago, ballpeen said: I don't see it changing much. We aready get wanded, clear bags, etc. That doesn't have anything to do with this. I bring a gun and ammo with me when I fly. I always carry a gun, even when I am in Vegas. What does airport security have to do with this?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Well you certainly have rolls enough to conceal a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 32 minutes ago, wargograw said: Well you certainly have rolls enough to conceal a gun. And you have a **MASK** to hide one in. TN doesn't require the gun to be concealed. I wear it on my hip. I also have a permit to carry it openly in NV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 What a bunch of wussies. I go to events all the time with no fear whatsoever. If your number is up, it's up. Quit fearing fear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 6 hours ago, ATENEARS said: With the recent attack on concert goers in Las Vegas last night. How safe do you feel attending an NFL or other U.S. major sporting event? What changes in security measures do you foresee at future events? I agree with doug. If your number is up, it's up. We've had a rash of deliberate suicide by wrong way driving on our interstates here. If you're the unlucky guy in the path- you're dead. Had it happen to me, never saw the guy coming- if I had been 10 feet to the left, I wouldn't be around. Feel pretty safe at sporting events though Ate. Now that I read the particulars on the attack- what you going to do, have Presidential Level Security at every event? Even that might not have stopped the attack, he just wouldn't have gotten the prez. Or maybe he would have- shades of Lee Harvey Oswald. The Secret Service does scope out every area now at a presidential appearance for potential shooting from nearby buildings with high powered rifles- which this guy was obviously using. Probably a .223 with a pile of extra banana clips. FWIW, regarding presidential level security. My favorite restaurant in Dayton- the Pine Club (I'm a regular there) got picked by Bush Sr. for dinner when he was prez. Dave Hulme (the owner) told me the Secret Service damn near dismantled the place checking it out beforehand. Old George was surrounded by SS while he was eating, and they had their eyes in the kitchen and back & front doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvozel Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 6 hours ago, LondonBrown said: The security at Wembley stadium last week for the Ravens Jaguars game was most I’ve seen over here at a sporting event Explain please. What should we expect for the Browns game at Twickenham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 6 hours ago, ATENEARS said: With the recent attack on concert goers in Las Vegas last night. How safe do you feel attending an NFL or other U.S. major sporting event? What changes in security measures do you foresee at future events? Considering if i was off this weekend I would've either been in vegas at that concert or at the hockey game, I still feel safe about sporting events. The statistics of a shooting like that happening are very unlikely. Sporting events are very secure for the most part. People that want to kill other people for no reason are rare. The dude who killed those innocent peoples father was a bank robber and used to be on the FBI's most wanted list. I still don't want to sacrifice peoples freedom for security. I believe a great president once said that we shouldn't do that. I see vegas and all around the U.S. trying to crack down and check people everywhere and provide a more "orwellian" state just for us to be safe. But who knows how much safer that would actually make us (like the TSA for instance). If gun laws were harder, dude still probably would of went to the black market. However, vegas casinos should not of let that dude get ten guns in. That's ridiculous. I feel safe during sporting events to sum it up, and figure that something like this is VERY unlikely to happen. Just like someone shooting up a movie theatre, does that make you terrified to ever see a movie again? The odds are astronomically low for that to happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 It will happen at a sporting event sooner or later sadly!!!! Far as security at games it all depends i can tell you this a few weeks ago they seemed more concerned what a shirt said on it then security!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I guess, in theory, if some sniper wanted to get up on top of one of these buildings and start taking shots, things could get hairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Remember this scene from Jack Reacher....at PNC Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Ghoolie said: And you have a **MASK** to hide one in. TN doesn't require the gun to be concealed. I wear it on my hip. I also have a permit to carry it openly in NV. Neither does Texas. Planes, however, do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATENEARS Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 If this results in extra security checking bags upon checking into a hotel room, this could become more inconvenient than airport security. There are already long lines at Vegas casinos for players that don't carry high status. This guy seemed like a pretty big fish, a frequent gambler that would probably skirt any added security anyhow. I hope this doesn't add to the already stepped up security at venues. This guy checked into his hotel room 3-days earlier and sat, stockpiled, and waited. Not much you can do about that and I hope we don't think that we can instil some new measure that inconveniences millions upon millions from here on out. So you carry a gun on your hip? Haha, start popping off a round here and there at the mammoth Mandalay Bay while this cat makes it rain 700 rounds at a time on ya? This guy just upped the bar ... makes your squirt gun obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, ATENEARS said: If this results in extra security checking bags upon checking into a hotel room, this could become more inconvenient than airport security. There are already long lines at Vegas casinos for players that don't carry high status. This guy seemed like a pretty big fish, a frequent gambler that would probably skirt any added security anyhow. I hope this doesn't add to the already stepped up security at venues. This guy checked into his hotel room 3-days earlier and sat, stockpiled, and waited. Not much you can do about that and I hope we don't think that we can instil some new measure that inconveniences millions upon millions from here on out. So you carry a gun on your hip? Haha, start popping off a round here and there at the mammoth Mandalay Bay while this cat makes it rain 700 rounds at a time on ya? This guy just upped the bar ... makes your squirt gun obsolete. Just like the shoes in the airports. Because one nut figured out how to stuff enough high explosives in one to blow a hole in the side of an airplane. As my buddy in Alaska said when I brought my .357 up there for "protection". "You're just going to make the bear mad with that peashooter." It's been said- those who would trade freedom for security will have neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATENEARS Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 minute ago, hoorta said: As my buddy in Alaska said when I brought my .357 up there for "protection". "You're just going to make the bear mad with that peashooter." Haha ... exactly. People are going to do what they are going to do. Build a wall around a venue and you just trap everyone within, check every bag entering and they hit you from the outside. I just hope we don't think we are going to regulate this one. Only thing I can think of, is that if you kill 58 people, we take 58 of your family members off the face of the earth. An eye for an eye. Sucks, but maybe that is why some animals eat their young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, ATENEARS said: If this results in extra security checking bags upon checking into a hotel room, this could become more inconvenient than airport security. There are already long lines at Vegas casinos for players that don't carry high status. This guy seemed like a pretty big fish, a frequent gambler that would probably skirt any added security anyhow. I hope this doesn't add to the already stepped up security at venues. This guy checked into his hotel room 3-days earlier and sat, stockpiled, and waited. Not much you can do about that and I hope we don't think that we can instil some new measure that inconveniences millions upon millions from here on out. So you carry a gun on your hip? Haha, start popping off a round here and there at the mammoth Mandalay Bay while this cat makes it rain 700 rounds at a time on ya? This guy just upped the bar ... makes your squirt gun obsolete. Completely agreed Stan, if that's the case in vegas it could potentially take hours to check-in. Last thing we need, is TSA for the casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 What we need is EVERYONE to have a gun on them. Right? That way we'll ALL be safe. Can you imagine if everyone had a gun at the concert? People would've been shooting willy nilly in all directions thinking that EVERYONE else was the shooter. Or better yet, someone yells, "It's coming from that hotel!". And then everyone's firing willy nilly at the hotel. ANYWHERE at the hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Orion said: What we need is EVERYONE to have a gun on them. Right? That way we'll ALL be safe. Can you imagine if everyone had a gun at the concert? People would've been shooting willy nilly in all directions thinking that EVERYONE else was the shooter. Or better yet, someone yells, "It's coming from that hotel!". And then everyone's firing willy nilly at the hotel. ANYWHERE at the hotel. Or better event and casino security. They have cameras everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I was at urbans first game coaching the Bucks vs Ohio hadn't been there for years and I noticed driving in snipers on top of buildings (thought it was cause paul ryan was at the game) but no I was told just par for the course after 9-11 there were also packs of sherrifs wondering through the tailgate area(was told it was wise to drink out of the red plastic cup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 We need to have a better mental health system in our country. We need to make medicine and healthcare a right to all US civilians and work out the billing later. We need to give people a living wage for an honest days work. We also need to help one another. We need peace. We need to love and respect each other. We need "The Almighty God" to come back into America's life. We need to respect each other and make sure that the right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is never in danger of being stolen away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, PoeticG said: We need to have a better mental health system in our country. We need to make medicine and healthcare a right to all US civilians and work out the billing later. We need to give people a living wage for an honest days work. We also need to help one another. We need peace. We need to love and respect each other. We need "The Almighty God" to come back into America's life. We need to respect each other and make sure that the right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is never in danger of being stolen away. we need to make sure the mentally ill do not have children fix em all like a Shmucking dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I don't know about that. Some people might consider the lot of us Browns Fans here, mentally ill. Each person is their own master. The system is broken, we must 'try' to be better. If you live by the sword - you'll die by the sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 very true G if they got their hands on me I would probably be put away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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