tinythinker Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Well...hmm... nice punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: You mean Cody Parkey, kicking for the Fins? Yeah, he’s currently 8 out 9 on FG’s on the year. Which is precisely what I was saying in another thread when talking about Gonzales. We need to give him time. He's a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Most teams seem to come together more when the season goes by, Not us, we get worse. Does Sashi not see we don't have a deep threat wide out? Or a kicker? a RB who just loves to miss the hole and fumble and miss pitches, We are the joke of the NFL and now London sees it first hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, BaconHound said: No he stinks because he is a first round project who doesn't win 50/50 battles or make routine catches. Disagree. The defender just had a great play. Njoku will win the majority of those plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, dawg2fan said: Which is precisely what I was saying in another thread when talking about Gonzales. We need to give him time. He's a rookie. We have to give a kicker more time? He has 1 job to do, Kicking is his job, If you are a kicker, you have it or you don't, and he does not have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, dawg2fan said: Which is precisely what I was saying in another thread when talking about Gonzales. We need to give him time. He's a rookie. Time?? Kickers are a dime a dozen. We obviously got rid of the wrong guy...again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: The ball was literally going over the head of the guys when we ran into him. Are you watching the game? Trent green said that was a missed call, because it was. Here you go: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference go ahead and take time to read it. Or do you need more citation lmao... Now we are 4 posts in and you are shifting the goal posts. Your first three posts didnt argue with my point about how the ball was not in the air and instead your argument was that "you can't impede the contact blah blah". I pointed out that, yes, you can in fact impede contact within 5 yards if the ball is not in the air and it's not holding. You just doubled down on the 'impede contact' part and didn't argue with the ball not being in the air. Now I guess you actually took the time and read the rules and realized that, yes I was right and you can 'impede' the reciever under certain circumstances. *IF* the ball was in the air it is a penalty. I dont think it was. If you do fine. But In that case there is nothing to discuss because there is no disagreement on the rule. But that wasnt our argument at first because if it was you would have initially disagreed with me about the ball not being in the air....not waiting until this point in the argument when you now realize I was right about the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 It should not matter if a kicker is a rookie or not, Kicking does not change from NCAA to Pro. I am over Zane, he needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, medicineman said: We have to give a kicker more time? He has 1 job to do, Kicking is his job, If you are a kicker, you have it or you don't, and he does not have it. So why was Cody so bad with us and then turned out so good with the Fins? And don't tell me it was coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, dawg2fan said: Which is precisely what I was saying in another thread when talking about Gonzales. We need to give him time. He's a rookie. are you serious? you give position players 'more time' if there is some underlying talent that may come out with development.....you dont give a freaking nfl kicker 'more time' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, dawg2fan said: Disagree. The defender just had a great play. Njoku will win the majority of those plays. He has been a red zone target because there are no other decent receivers on this team. If he was any good Seth Devalve would be a blocker only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 WTF was that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Browns1216 said: now we see what the Browns are made of, plenty of time on the clock to get 2 TDs for any decent NFL team. Why does scoring 2 TDs seem so insurmountable for the Browns? Because we have no receivers who are ever open. Kizer isn't great but the receivers are almost always trying to make catches with defenders all over them or they drop the ones that hit them in the hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, dawg2fan said: So why was Cody so bad with us and then turned out so good with the Fins? because it's the highly variable nature of kicking......I've posted on that before. but zane clearly doesnt have an nfl leg. That part is not variable. that 54 yarder he kicked(the way he kicked it) looked like it was unnatural for him to attempt from that distance.....from 63 thats fine. From 54 in todays nfl? Nope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 we have 2 yards this quarter? 2? what a joke. I am to the point at getting rid of the coach and the players, finish with scabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Good ole Jimmy gave up a home game for this garbage as well, Sheet I say play 3 of them home games in London next year, nobody wants to watch us any how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just update to we are an 0-8 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Does it matter if he catches it or not? They will score this drive any how. I hate my life, least you guys make me smile even when we lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Tacosman said: lmao... Now we are 4 posts in and you are shifting the goal posts. Your first three posts didnt argue with my point about how the ball was not in the air and instead your argument was that "you can't impede the contact blah blah". I pointed out that, yes, you can in fact impede contact within 5 yards if the ball is not in the air and it's not holding. You just doubled down on the 'impede contact' part and didn't argue with the ball not being in the air. Now I guess you actually took the time and read the rules and realized that, yes I was right and you can 'impede' the reciever under certain circumstances. *IF* the ball was in the air it is a penalty. I dont think it was. If you do fine. But In that case there is nothing to discuss because there is no disagreement on the rule. But that wasnt our argument at first because if it was you would have initially disagreed with me about the ball not being in the air....not waiting until this point in the argument when you now realize I was right about the rule. kindly quote any response I made that stated what you said isn't a rule in the NFL (news flash, I didn't.) I've made the same point each post, that if a receiver is impeded to make catch it's pass interference. You're original post is objectively wrong, and will be reviewed and confirmed as a incorrect call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, BaconHound said: He has been a red zone target because there are no other decent receivers on this team. If he was any good Seth Devalve would be a blocker only. I'd partially agree with you. I agree with you that he's a good receiver, but we have no other good receivers. All of our receivers are rejects from other teams. Treggs, Coates, Williams. Then other receivers that we drafted (Louis, Louis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: The ball was literally going over the head of the guys when we ran into him. Are you watching the game? Trent green said that was a missed call, because it was. Here you go: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference go ahead and take time to read it. Or do you need more citation another quick point- if the ball was literally 'going over the head of the guys when we ran into him'(which wasnt the point of our rules argument anyways but whatever), it would not have been a catchable ball because the ball lands literally 10 yards past where contact occurs. And thus there would have been no PI because it would have been ruled uncatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 well that was a great throw, rolls eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mark O said: Because we have no receivers who are ever open. Kizer isn't great but the receivers are almost always trying to make catches with defenders all over them or they drop the ones that hit them in the hands. A lot of the time that's bc Kizer waits too long to throw it. He doesnt anticipate or throw to the open space, he always waits until he sees the receiver open. On comebacks, outs, slants, and other routes, that gives dbs too much time to react Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, dawg2fan said: I'd partially agree with you. I agree with you that he's a good receiver, but we have no other good receivers. All of our receivers are rejects from other teams. Treggs, Coates, Williams. Then other receivers that we drafted (Louis, Louis). Solid PI call. I shouldn't have said he stinks, fanatic overreaction, but he doesn't look like the guy who you draft in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Over paid garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, thenew23 said: A lot of the time that's bc Kizer waits too long to throw it. He doesnt anticipate or throw to the open space, he always waits until he sees the receiver open. On comebacks, outs, slants, and other routes, that gives dbs too much time to react Sure...some of the time...but even on the slants or other things when he throws quick, there is no one ever open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 well a least we wont lose next week, I think it is safe to say, Hue and Zane are both gone before our next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsFan4Evr Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Kicking a field goal up 2 TDS with 1:14 left??? Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: kindly quote any response I made that stated what you said isn't a rule in the NFL (news flash, I didn't.) I've made the same point each post, that if a receiver is impeded to make catch it's pass interference. You're original post is objectively wrong, and will be reviewed and confirmed as a incorrect call. it wasn't clear to me that your use of that phrase meant you believed the ball had been thrown or not when contact was made. I agreed that he was 'impeded to make the catch', but my initial argument was that the ball hadn't been thrown yet. You can be impeded from making a catch even before the ball is thrown. If the entire point of your argument was you felt the ball had been thrown, anyone with reading comprehension would have simply stated "no, the ball had been thrown and thats why it should have been a penalty" in your first reply and there would be no argument on the rules(just a disagreement about when the ball was thrown). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khand3stooges Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I'm sorry to say at this point this organization has no right expecting their fans to support the team they are putting out there. I don't see much in the way of rebuilding when year after year, coach after coach the same crap is thrown out there. One week we have a great defense, the next week they look like high school players. Just about every week the offense is sub par. Don't want to rehash this, but I just don't see Kizer as the "guy". I enjoyed watching Kessler last week even with the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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