Orion Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, hoorta said: That's you're fallacy- You don't pay Kahlil Mack $21 million unless I happen to agree with that. A team certainly cannot have every position paid at the top of the market value. I'm just sayin' that a draft pick is a token that you put in a slot machine in April. (at least that's how it's been for us). Whereas trading a draft pick for Landry takes the slot machine out of the equation. Although his bill will come due next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Tour2ma said: What is this "con-sis-ten-cy" of which you speak??? 1-31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Heard on Fox Sports the rumors are the Raiders want two first round picks for Mack- which means they're really not interested in trading him. We'll see how serious he is when he starts missing game checks. Was also posited him and Aaron Donald are waiting it out to see who gets paid first to set the market. But IMHO that was already done when Suh broke the bank in Miami. I'd like to believe teams wised up after that fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just stay tuned ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 3:03 PM, hoorta said: Heard on Fox Sports the rumors are the Raiders want two first round picks for Mack- which means they're really not interested in trading him. We'll see how serious he is when he starts missing game checks. Was also posited him and Aaron Donald are waiting it out to see who gets paid first to set the market. But IMHO that was already done when Suh broke the bank in Miami. I'd like to believe teams wised up after that fiasco. Well I doubt anyone wised up. Just liked Flacco set the market, and now guys are getting close to double. Contracts have just gone up, so has the cap. Suh isnt a great example either. Because he could be even more valuable if he focused just on doing his best playing on the field. His antics have cost him money. And Donald is quite a bit better than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, hoorta said: Heard on Fox Sports the rumors are the Raiders want two first round picks ...for one of the eleven guys who tackle people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Orion said: ...for one of the eleven guys who tackle people. right. u go after a guy like that either in the draft or in FA where u know he's coming cause he wants to play here and not being strongarmed by a team thats saying if u want out its gonna have to be to these huckleberries who are fixin to.give us 2 1st rounders. no uh uh no way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 ....... if he had under performed since signing his rookie contract, I wonder if he would be desperately trying to give money back to his employers? Yea, I'm sure he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 So you're saying there's a chance? https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Khalil-Mack-trade-Browns-121224306/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 "The inclusion of a player like defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah or Collins might make the deal more intriguing for Oakland as well." ooooooooo, not sure about a 1st rounder AND collins.....but ogbah? yup. And if they can frontload tgat contract so that they're cleared up better when other guys come due.......mmmmm, man thats making me think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 My spidey sense tells me this is about to go down, stay tuned. BTW anyone notice the big grin Dorsey gave when asked about Mack last night as he deftly deferred to answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Too much money and too many picks required for one of the eleven guys who tackle people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, jcam222 said: My spidey sense tells me this is about to go down, stay tuned. BTW anyone notice the big grin Dorsey gave when asked about Mack last night as he deftly deferred to answer? link to.this grinning gum chewer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Orion said: Too much money and too many picks required for one of the eleven guys who tackle people. yeah...no. while im kinda shying away from this idea, Mack is not a guy that tackles people. hes the guy that rushes the passer....THE premier position on defense...the position that makes it difficult to pass in this pass-happy league. however, it comes at the expense of solving DT through trade or cuts, as next draft appears heavy for DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 do they need a wr? Id entertain the idea of skipping the 1st rounder and giving em a 2nd along with gordon. Than promptly signing dez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 if we coukd keep that 1st rounder and still get mack, bye josh...like the guy wish him well, but bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 I'm betting now that Aaron Donald and the Rams have officially set the bar, Mack will sign an extension with the Raiders in the next couple of days or sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said: do they need a wr? Id entertain the idea of skipping the 1st rounder and giving em a 2nd along with gordon. Than promptly signing dez cant express just how terrible of an idea this is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, D Bone said: I'm betting now that Aaron Donald and the Rams have officially set the bar, Mack will sign an extension with the Raiders in the next couple of days or sooner. Yup- and I doubt Donald plays all seven years on that contract. 40 million up front, the money is getting crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, choco said: cant express just how terrible of an idea this is... right cause josh has proved such a solid yearly presence in our lockerroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 3:03 PM, hoorta said: Heard on Fox Sports the rumors are the Raiders want two first round picks for Mack- which means they're really not interested in trading him. We'll see how serious he is when he starts missing game checks. Was also posited him and Aaron Donald are waiting it out to see who gets paid first to set the market. But IMHO that was already done when Suh broke the bank in Miami. I'd like to believe teams wised up after that fiasco. Donald has signed a 6 year deal. $135 mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Donald has signed a 6 year deal. $135 mill? Might be seven, but he won't finish out the contract. $86 million guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: right cause josh has proved such a solid yearly presence in our lockerroom. Then why would the Raiders want him, huh? Nope, we've invested far too much pain and suffering with Josh's troubles to kick him out the door now- even for a talent like Mack. Who, BTW isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: if we coukd keep that 1st rounder and still get mack, bye josh...like the guy wish him well, but bye It seems like you don’t like him. Regardless he’s our #1 wideout and it seems clear by how coach Hue acts, he’s not going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: It seems like you don’t like him. Regardless he’s our #1 wideout and it seems clear by how coach Hue acts, he’s not going anywhere i dont hate him, at all....but im also not hopeful about him. Todd haley feels the same way and he knows far more about josh gordons troubles than we do. Yes, coach jackson is optimistic.....we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, hoorta said: Then why would the Raiders want him, huh? cause if they dont want to pay mack 22m they might settle on multiple pieces coupled perhaps with a later round. Mack is prob not going anywhere, my suggestion about was just a thought. If they're adamant about a 1st rounder than yeah they dont get gordon packaged up. I just opined that if they were amenable to a later round pick and a package of ogbah, gordon and some beers......id do it. Just my opinion. But all that is predicated on how mack would want his contract structured. If we couldnt work something out with him that left us good with other key players we need the cap to sign, than no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 this just in hue Jackson has offered up baker Mayfield and miles garrett plus next years 1st and 2nd round picks for mack and carr and their 3rd round pick rumor from mkc stating that there is going to be a shake up in the front office and that Haley may be replaced with Zampese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, syd said: this just in hue Jackson has offered up baker Mayfield and miles garrett plus next years 1st and 2nd round picks for mack and carr and their 3rd round pick rumor from mkc stating that there is going to be a shake up in the front office and that Haley may be replaced with Zampese Ernie or Ken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 What would you feel comfortable with offering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 I would offer a 1st round with orchard and nassib or late round picks. Mack and Garrett can cause some trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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