calfoxwc Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Byzantine_Empire#Leonid_dynasty The Arabs, now firmly in control of Syria and the Levant, sent frequent raiding parties deep into Asia Minor, and in 674–678 laid siege to Constantinople itself. The Arab fleet was finally repulsed through the use of Greek fire, and a thirty-years' truce was signed between the Empire and the Umayyad Caliphate.[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: This is high school.history So is George Washington chopping down the cherry tree and Abe Lincoln walking 5 miles to return a book. But yes a few civilizations including the Romans Greeks Chinese Etc had extremely high peaks of enlightenment which are, as you should admit, somewhat fluid. I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history. Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history. Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement. 1) i didnt claim i was a history guru, my point about it being HS history was to ellucidate that this ISNT some obscure time in history people know little about. In fact the basics of medical anatomy the british are often credited with fiscovering, actually came from the doctors in egypt. Where the british doctors went to study. 2) As to ur second point, did i insinuate the ME wasnt a current dumpster fire? I was responding to someones erroneous assertion that the middle east has been in perpetual war for millions of years...🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today. And neither did I, ur point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: And neither did I, ur point? My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall. WSS I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt. But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt. But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs. I don't agree at all. I think economic situations proximity of War Etc will cause people to get crazy. Oftentimes they take that craziness and projected through the prism of religion and use it as an excuse. Like some of the people who use Christianity to Badger people who don't want the borders overrun by immigrants from third world shitholes . But just being Fundamentalist it's no big deal. Not my cup of tea but for the most part fundamentalists I know are fine people. Most rank-and-file Church doors are not Fundamentalist. And I don't personally know anybody who actively follows the Old Testament with violence towards non-believers. Amish Seventh Day Adventist Foursquare gospel even Jehovah Witnesses seem like decent folks as far as I can tell. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TexasAg1969 Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Make America Great Again! 😘😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: U should prob be made aware that Grant and the dude on the right may very well have more in common than u think.... https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2016/08/08/inside-cary-grants-secret-life-with-men/amp/ I hope u can get some sleep tonight despite this seusmic revelation about ur dapper, well dressed hero u seem to idolize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 The defense rests its case ur honour..... 😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 I should have figured you would have personal knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: I should have figured you would have personal knowledge. Dude died before i was born, ive read about this for years tho. Not surprised u had affinity for a sekret pecker puller tho......😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Make America Great Again! 😘😂 The "Rock" LOL. In 1975 I had just gotten out of Naval training school in San Diego and was reporting to my ship stationed in Long Beach Ca which was in dry dock. I thought something was odd when the bus pulled into the Long Beach Naval Station and the sign said San Francisco Naval Station.. When I got off the bus I went to report in and I saw this Admiral coming at me all decked out in gold so I gave him my best salute and he just scowled back at me. When I went around the corner I saw all the cameras and they were filming an episode of McMillan and Wife and the admiral I saluted was Rock Hudson. This was back when nobody had heard of AIDS or that Hudson was gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 So Trump is making him leave January 1 instead, really stupid. Fox News 3 mins · Breaking News: Defense Secretary James Mattis will be leaving his post on January 1, weeks ahead of his initially announced exit of February. President Donald J. Trump announced in a tweet Sunday morning that "Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 5 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: So Trump is making him leave January 1 instead, really stupid. Fox News 3 mins · Breaking News: Defense Secretary James Mattis will be leaving his post on January 1, weeks ahead of his initially announced exit of February. President Donald J. Trump announced in a tweet Sunday morning that "Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019." What a baby.... Patrick Shanahan -> No military experience No government experience Former Boeing executive Limited foreign policy experience Non Cheetos Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 And the hits keep comin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 I will vote for anyone over Trump in 2020. The orange buffoon is a nutbag. MAGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 Ya'll might want to tap the Brakes on this one a bit . . . https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/23/patrick-m-shanahan-new-sec-defense/ Two advanced Degrees from MIT - guy's no slouch. http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/24/business/fi-sunprofile24 Also keep in mind, Boeing does some pretty hush hush (Boeing Phantom Works) type of work for the DoD. As for Mattis leaving early, that is interesting . . . General Kelly is also supposed to be out by year end. Accelerated timeline ? Keep in mind, these are not going to be long term positions if you haven't figured that out yet. Is the amount of turnover in this Administration like any other you've seen ? Good or bad, these folks are here to do a job then they're out and someone else is in to do a different job. New game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 So now advanced degrees are in eh? And not a lick of military exp on that resume or am i not seeing it? A boeing enginerr for sec of defense? I mean, is this for real? Did we critisize the tillerson pick for this very reason and, well, we know what happened there...... I mean trump is lost, utterly. DH, all bullshit aside....are u ok with a def sec that never even went through boot camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 Oh dear god he's a supply chain kunt ontop of everything else. Dear god even hillary would beat this clown show in 2020...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: Oh dear god he's a supply chain kunt ontop of everything else. Dear god even hillary would beat this clown show in 2020...... Don't worry. Soon the Dems will take ove and we can send the troops back into the shithole WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Don't worry. Soon the Dems will take ove and we can send the troops back into the shithole WSS The dems and the MSM would all be cheering if under Obama our military had taken back all the territory that ISIS held and then pulled our troops out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 This new guy has advanced degrees...and no military experience. This is all really dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 CJ was of course too much of a coward to tell Mattis that his being replaced early. He had his Secretary of State do it. To have president that is not only a moron, but a scared little bitch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, cccjwh said: CJ was of course too much of a coward to tell Mattis that his being replaced early. He had his Secretary of State do it. To have president that is not only a moron, but a scared little bitch too. Whether or not you agree with the general and believe that we should keep troops in the Middle East indefinitely for what reason would you keep somebody for two more months who is in complete opposition of the policies you've set? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Whether or not you agree with the general and believe that we should keep troops in the Middle East and definitely for what reason would you keep somebody for two more months who is in complete opposition of the policies you've set? WSS Soldiers follow orders, it's kind of a requirement of the job. Here hoping the GOP grows some balls and only confirm a qualify person as the new SOD. This is why you don't elected a draft dodger of the command in chief. "A leopard doesn't change his spots" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, cccjwh said: Soldiers follow orders, it's kind of a requirement of the job. Here hoping the GOP grows some balls and only confirm a qualify person as the new SOD. This is why you don't elected a draft dodger of the command in chief. "A leopard doesn't change his spots" Apparently not all soldiers follow orders. And neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama spent any time in anything close to the military. And W, just barely. If a soldier finds it impossible to do what the commander-in-chief has asked it's time for him to go. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Apparently not all soldiers follow orders. And neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama spent any time in anything close to the military. And W, just barely. If a soldier finds it impossible to do what the commander-in-chief has asked it's time for him to go. WSS OBAMA and BILL!!, well then that makes it OK? If a soldier finds it impossible to continue to do stupid things they resign and give the moron in chief time to get a new SOD confirmed. Because having a coward/moron, then a nerd as the two heads of the military is fucking stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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