darren15 Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/4/10/18305417/cleveland-browns-turned-down-vikings-trade-offer-for-kevin-zeitler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Vernon has the performance edge and is nearly three-years younger, but good to learn there were options. I'd be surprised if there were not more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Vernon has the performance edge and is nearly three-years younger, but good to learn there were options. I'd be surprised if there were not more... I'm perfectly happy with the Viking we got from that D.👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Always seems like Dorsey is playing two or three moves ahead. I’m going to start calling him Bobby Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 The off field issues alone would have made this a no for me. Griffen has had some mental struggles of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Don't need a thread to decode why Vernon is much better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said: Don't need a thread to decode why Vernon is much better.. Consider the OP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 The everson griffin of a couple years ago pre mental meltdown....sure. Not now tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing... Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself. Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat. Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing... Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself. Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat. Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it... honrstly they might as well trade Barkley too if they're in rebuild. Barkley isnt getting them deep into the plsyoffs and if they can get a "haul" for him they shoukd do it....cause RB's depreciate quick in the NFL. If they can get a goid QB in this years draft tho, thsts fine...obviously keep barkley. But if they're looking at getting a QB agsin after next year they oughta trade him and get a shit ton of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing... Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself. Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat. Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it... Virtually everyone is questioning what Gettelman is up to. In the 2018 QB loaded draft, the Giants were in prime position to take the QB we didn't. Yet they took Barkley instead of Sam Darnold. That move improved their draft position from #2 to #6. And they still don't have anyone on the roster for their QBOTF. You can question if Haskins is a QB prospect equal to Darnold, but will he still be there at #6? Or will they use the #17 they got from the Browns on a second tier guy like Drew Lock? So real head scratchers taking Barkley and trading OBJ. They may be doing a minor league version of the the Browns Sashi tank, and the Colts suck for Luck. At the rate they're going, it could be at least several seasons before they're competitive in the NFC East much less Super Bowl contenders. 3 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: honrstly they might as well trade Barkley too if they're in rebuild. Barkley isnt getting them deep into the plsyoffs and if they can get a "haul" for him they shoukd do it....cause RB's depreciate quick in the NFL. If they can get a goid QB in this years draft tho, thsts fine...obviously keep barkley. But if they're looking at getting a QB agsin after next year they oughta trade him and get a shit ton of picks. As I said above, the Giants have to at least be the favorites to wind up in the NFC East basement, if not in contention for the 2020 #1 overall pick. I agree with your point that RBs have a short shelf life, and Saquon may well be shot by the time they're competitive again. But what's he worth? MHO is the Giants wouldn't get anything more than a first round pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Barkley isn’t your average NFL RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 barkley right now would get a haul....if he remsins healthy this season his stock shouldnt go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 On another note... NYG looks like a prime trade partner for AZ's Josh Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: On another note... NYG looks like a prime trade partner for AZ's Josh Rosen. Yep, the NFL Net guys on radio have said that earlier this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Yep, the NFL Net guys on radio have said that earlier this week. Seems like a "fit"... very similar skill set to Eli's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 I would only offer 2nd rounder tops for him .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: barkley right now would get a haul....if he remsins healthy this season his stock shouldnt go down. OK, Saquon- a first, low third, and a Jabril Peppers level player. Maybe not even that much- MHO. Around draft time players on rosters tend to be devaluated. Would anyone want to give up that much? He might be a generational player, but I argued with PO and Ghoolie for months "generational" running backs aren't necessarily the ticket to the Promised Land. Just ask Adrian Peterson, LaDanian Tomlinson, and Barry Sanders about that. Regarding Rosen- the #17 the Giants got from the Browns sounds like fair value. If the Cardinals draft Murray, there's no place on the roster for Josh- and keeping him is a locker room nightmare waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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