calfoxwc Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 lol. "FARCE" is not a strong enough word. An assistant...george? kent, from the State dept, gave a very long introduction speech. It was all about the history of the Ukraine, etc etc etc etc, and how the history led up to today. He didn't explain, unless I missed it - that obaMao refused to send any military aid out of love for socialism of russia. His entire point towards the end, is President Trump made a few decisions that the state dept and (deep state) didn't like, because it (made them look like weinies). Which, after ALL THAT, lol, has absolutely nothing to do with anything that means President Trump did anything wrong. Just an obaMao deep state bunch of holders who believe THEY are our government, and the president had better STFU if he disagrees with them. He skipped over, of course, quid pro joe and his withholding funds unless they immediately stop within six hrs of investigating HIM and his corrupt son. yeah. what a waste of space in Congress. Oh, and Kent made it clear the state dept didn't give him any guidance? on classified, so HE gets to not answer any questions that "might have to do with classified" materials, since he DIDN'T BRING ANYTHING WITH HIM. and, he won't answer questions he just doesn't want ot answer. LOL the fix has been in for three years plus. What a freaking farce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 What stuns me is that we just went through a 3 year farce with the Mueller witch hunt and when that failed within a week or so the dems are back with a new Ukrainian impeachment farce. I saw where our MSM was running 96 percent negative coverage against Trump with this one. We have a MSM that is totally in the pocket of the democrat party. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 there are so many Real Americans going to show the farce for what it is. By their votes in 2020. https://www.theblaze.com/news/americans-at-lsu-alabama-game-give-cnn-an-earful-say-president-trump-is-being-treated-unfairly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 WATCH: Key witness admits Ukraine prez ‘happy’ with Trump call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Dem's claim he doesn't know whistleblower's ID draws mockery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vambo Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 WATCH: Here is the exchange between Kent and Republican counsel on the Biden/Burisma linkage and the concerns he had about that. https://video.foxnews.com/v/6103511961001/#sp=show-clips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 I learned today that Jim Jordan might be the dumbest MF in and from Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I learned today that Jim Jordan might be the dumbest MF in and from Ohio. lol. Nope - he sees through all this stupidity. "clear understanding" to the left means = "I formulated my clear opinion because I talked to somebody who also talked to somebody else, and then I heard from somebody else, and so and so didn't like Pres Trump and I don't either". schiff for brains has to be squirming in his seat badly. His circus is a freaking DUD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Star witness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, calfoxwc said: lol. Nope - he sees through all this stupidity. "clear understanding" to the left means = "I formulated my clear opinion because I talked to somebody who also talked to somebody else, and then I heard from somebody else, and so and so didn't like Pres Trump and I don't either". schiff for brains has to be squirming in his seat badly. His circus is a freaking DUD. Heard it from a friend whoHeard it from a friend whoHeard it from another you been messin' around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Cysko Kid Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 To whom, do you suppose, I send a bill for this egregious waste of taxpayer money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Axe Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 hours ago, tiamat63 said: I learned today that Jim Jordan might be the dumbest MF in and from Ohio. Next to you apparently 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 9 hours ago, tiamat63 said: I learned today that Jim Jordan might be the dumbest MF in and from Ohio. How ironic. That was pretty damn dumb. You can however try and save face by telling us what exactly it is that made you come to that conclusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Vambo said: BB Trumpettes: Can Be Counted On As The Usual Suspects 🙈🙉🙊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: BB Trumpettes: Can Be Counted On As The Usual Suspects 🙈🙉🙊 As judge, jury, and executioner for whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: BB Trumpettes: Can Be Counted On As The Usual Suspects 🙈🙉🙊 Even CNN analyst Jeffrey Toobin noted that Democrats had a "problem," in that their key witnesses Wednesday had never directly interacted with Trump. "And, that's a problem if you're going to impeach the president," Toobin said. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-impeachment-hearings-trump-moderate-democrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 13 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: To whom, do you suppose, I send a bill for this egregious waste of taxpayer money? Robert Mueller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Vambo said: Even CNN analyst Jeffrey Toobin noted that Democrats had a "problem," in that their key witnesses Wednesday had never directly interacted with Trump. "And, that's a problem if you're going to impeach the president," Toobin said. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-impeachment-hearings-trump-moderate-democrats However Taylor's assistant who did hear the phone call and Sondland, who is suddenly backtracking for fear of charges of lying to Congress under oath, are still set to testify. The problem for Sondland is that apparently more than one person can be brought forward who overheard the entire conversation on a cell phone in a public setting. BTW there is also evidence that all of it was picked up by Russian Intel. Really poor security in a well covered (read that spied upon) city in Ukraine. And now Trump is saying he can't remember that call. This is all just the setup for a lot of further public testimony to come that weaves the entire story into a believable whole. Fox won't tell you that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: However Taylor's assistant who did hear the phone call and Sondland, who is suddenly backtracking for fear of charges of lying to Congress under oath, are still set to testify. The problem for Sondland is that apparently more than one person can be brought forward who overheard the entire conversation on a cell phone in a public setting. BTW there is also evidence that all of it was picked up by Russian Intel. Really poor security in a well covered (read that spied upon) city in Ukraine. And now Trump is saying he can't remember that call. This is all just the setup for a lot of further public testimony to come that weaves the entire story into a believable whole. Fox won't tell you that though. And the hypocrisy of the democrats who are now so suddenly worried about Ukraine getting military aid is breathtaking. Under Obama when Ukraine first was invaded by Russia Ukraine was begging us for military aid and Obama would only send blankets and MRE's. These same democrats weren't so interested in Ukraine getting military aid under Obama were they Tex? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: And the hypocrisy of the democrats who are now so suddenly worried about Ukraine getting military aid is breathtaking. Under Obama when Ukraine first was invaded by Russia Ukraine was begging us for military aid and Obama would only send blankets and MRE's. These same democrats weren't so interested in Ukraine getting military aid under Obama were they Tex? I have always said Obama was a Chicago Alderman completely in the dark when it comes to foreign affairs. Two idiots do no make for good national security. Withholding that congressional approved money for Ukraine to defend themselves for pure personal political gain and not for our national defense policy is far worse than just being a nincompoop, which I have no problem at saying about Obama in respect to foreign affairs. Way out of his league there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, TexasAg1969 said: I have always said Obama was a Chicago Alderman completely in the dark when it comes to foreign affairs. Two idiots do no make for good national security. Withholding that congressional approved money for Ukraine to defend themselves for pure personal political gain and not for our national defense policy is far worse than just being a nincompoop, which I have not problem at saying about Obama in respect to foreign affairs. Way out of his league there. The fact is Ukraine under Trump did get the military aid that Obama would never give them. He held it up for a few months and he had every right to do that until he was assured that Ukraine was doing something against the corruption that had been rampant in the country. Because Biden's son was involved in getting on the board of one of the most corrupt gas companies in Ukraine (for no reason except he was the vice presidents son) they should be looking into that as part of the corruption. Just because Joe Biden is running for president doesn't mean he should be off limits to being investigated. Joe Biden demanded the prosecutor be fired who was looking into corruption at Burisma where Hunter Biden was on the board and threatened to withhold a billion dollars of aid if he wasn't fired. On it's face alone that needs to be investigated. You know as well as anyone else that Biden's son only got on the Burisma board with no qualifications whatsoever is that they were buying influence. Now we need to know if any favors were given to help Burisma because of Biden's son being on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 During the testimony, I watched a lot of it - it was brought out that according to law, the president has every freaking obligation to not send money where it will be wasted. ObaMao refused to sell weapons, even defensive, to the Ukraine, because he didn't want to antagonize his friends - RUSSIA. He was clearly russia's patsy. URANIUM ONE- the scandal no liberal will discuss here on this board. Actually, just ONE of several. 'What was really telling, in listening to Kent and Taylor - is their open admission that THEY set our foreign relations, and they feeeeeeeellllll that the president must not get in their way. Like meago millions made globally. Like the wealth Biden's son accrued. Like demanding a prosecutor be fired in six hours or they don't they one penny. THAT is quid pro quo. But the dems, especially the Charles Manson eyed Schiff4brains, are trying desperately to not allow the biden scandal to come forward. So much garbage fake investigation and lies, so little gained, actually they are going to lose because of all this deep state CYA and trying to convince voters that Trump is guilty of some kind of thing. They have failed for over three years now. This kangaroo court is right out of a movie about drunken pirates or something. and dissing Jim Jordan like Tiamsies did? lol. THAT was stupid really hateful knee jerkie. "I learned today that Jim Jordan might be the dumbest MF in and from Ohio." Tiamsies "well, how do you justify saying that, mr tiamsies?" "well...I...uh.....talked to a guy at the grocery store, and his cousin sells cars, and he sold a pickup truck to a customer who looked like Jim Jordan, but the customer's name was elmer smith...... LOL LOL. actually, it's more stupidass than funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TexasAg1969 Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 And now there is a second witness to the Sondland - Trump phone call. Now you know why Sondland is suddenly willing to amend his swore testimony just as I said. Too bad cal but using congressional fund withholding from a country needing it to defend themselves from Russian attack for your own personal political gain is not legal in any way shape or form. It was counter to US policy in defense of our own country i.e. help the Ukranians fight the Russians so we don't have to. If Obama had done this you would all have been screaming bloody murder. https://www.wsls.com/news/politics/2019/11/14/ap-source-2nd-us-official-heard-trump-call-with-sondland/ And just as suddenly trump's perfect memory develops lapses. Right! LOL😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Let's get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/462658-lets-get-real-democrats-were-first-to-enlist-ukraine-in-us-elections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: And now there is a second witness to the Sondland - Trump phone call. Now you know why Sondland is suddenly willing to amend his swore testimony just as I said. Too bad cal but using congressional fund withholding from a country needing it to defend themselves from Russian attack for your own personal political gain is not legal in any way shape or form. It was counter to US policy in defense of our own country i.e. help the Ukranians fight the Russians so we don't have to. If Obama had done this you would all have been screaming bloody murder. https://www.wsls.com/news/politics/2019/11/14/ap-source-2nd-us-official-heard-trump-call-with-sondland/ And just as suddenly trump's perfect memory develops lapses. Right! LOL😂 Ukraine's Foreign Minister Confirms No Linkage Between Aid and Investigations On Thursday, Ukraine's Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko told reporters that Gordon Sondland, the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, did not link military aid from the United States with investigations into Joe Biden and his son Hunter. "Ambassador Sondland did not tell us, and did not tell me exactly, about the relation between the [military] assistance and the investigations," Prystaiko said. "I have never seen a direct link between investigations and security assistance. Yes, investigations were mentioned, you know, in a presidential conversation. But there was no clear connection between these events," he added. The alleged linkage between the aid and the investigation was crucial to the Democrats' argument of a quid pro quo, which they are now trying to impeach President Trump for. This lines up with Sondland's closed-door testimony when he testified that when he asked Trump what he wanted from Ukraine Trump said, “I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I want Zelensky to do the right thing... to do what he ran on.” Sondland's amended testimony also makes clear that he has no idea why military aid to Ukraine had been temporarily suspended. So, let's consider the state of the Democrats' case against Trump: The Democrats' witnesses do not have any direct knowledge of any linkage between the military aid to Ukraine and investigating the Bidens or a public anti-corruption statement and Ukraine officials were not aware of any linkage. Can someone explain to me how this impeachment inquiry is not a witch hunt? https://pjmedia.com/trending/ukraines-foreign-minister-confirms-no-linkage-between-aid-and-investigations/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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