darren15 Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Take a bow sir......brilliant draft.....hope he is in Cleveland for many years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/addressing-the-misconceptions-about-new-cleveland-browns-gm-andrew-berry 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 That is a great read! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/addressing-the-misconceptions-about-new-cleveland-browns-gm-andrew-berry "Not only was Deshone Kizer's data profile abominable and his chances of being successful almost zero, Jackson chose to ignore the rest of the front office, doing his own scouting on Kizer, believing himself to be a quarterback whisperer." Jackson didn't know what QB talent looked like if it had walked up to him and bit him in the ass. You didn't need to be a pro scout, just casually watching a couple of Notre Dame's games- it was obvious that Kizer sucked.  I damn near threw up when Jim Brown announced the pick. That wasn't the only QB he totally whiffed on evaluating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Brilliant draft? This one? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchy Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Brilliant draft? Yes This one? Yes Really? Yes Thank you, come again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Looks pretty good on paper. Gotta wait a year or two before you can say it was a good draft or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, crunchy said: Thank you, come again Puff, puff, pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvcanedy Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: Puff, puff, pass. cynicism is lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 hours ago, darren15 said: Take a bow sir......brilliant draft.....hope he is in Cleveland for many years Way, way too early to evaluate.... Looks good on paper. Some around here thought Johnny Football was a great pick too.....  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, hoorta said: Way, way too early to evaluate.... Looks good on paper. Some around here thought Johnny Football was a great pick too.....  to be fair those posters were idiots 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 54 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: to be fair those posters were idiots You apologize to TxAg IMMeDIATELY! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 6 hours ago, darren15 said: Take a bow sir......brilliant draft.....hope he is in Cleveland for many years ehhhhhh... gonna need a few more details there d15... Draft looked "aight" to me... with solid pick in Wills atop it and some nice Day 3 picks, but Day 2 and Bryant come with question marks Also like a few of the UDFAs we've signed.... especially Brown, Herrien and Davidson. Plus feel he did well in the FA market. Â I will say that the picks look to me to be tailored to the kind of team that I think Stef and Woods want to build. However, because we don't have an established identity as yet, I don't know that for sure. If it is true tho... then Jimmah finally has the alignment he's been seeking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 11 hours ago, cvcanedy said: cynicism is lazy So is homerism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 15 hours ago, darren15 said: Take a bow sir......brilliant draft.....hope he is in Cleveland for many years At ease. Brilliant isn't a label I would use. A pragmatic draft, would be more like it. Didn't over think, took positions of need intersecting with production and potential. It's a solid start. And I'll leave it at that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Tour2ma said: ehhhhhh... gonna need a few more details there d15... Draft looked "aight" to me... with solid pick in Wills atop it and some nice Day 3 picks, but Day 2 and Bryant come with question marks Also like a few of the UDFAs we've signed.... especially Brown, Herrien and Davidson. Plus feel he did well in the FA market.  I will say that the picks look to me to be tailored to the kind of team that I think Stef and Woods want to build. However, because we don't have an established identity as yet, I don't know that for sure. If it is true tho... then Jimmah finally has the alignment he's been seeking. Yeah, too many picks that were, honestly, kind of head-scratchers. Picks where superior talent seemingly was passed on for "eh" players. To be fair, I would have had an issue with someone saying that this draft was horrible too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 I guess the easy guy to blame in this case is the Ownership...How many guys here could take Berry's job over with a former scouting staff,new HC's & did not take the job till around the Senior Bowl? and adding in effects of cov19 I'd call this staff "Haslam's Hero's" if we still found some good draft pieces...   and I think they did..   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 I think part of the reason why fans are on board(no pun intended) with this draft is because our team is almost complete. We had a pretty good understanding of what the team needs were, as fans, and those needs seemed to be filled in. With quality prospects... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: I think part of the reason why fans are on board(no pun intended) with this draft is because our team is almost complete. We had a pretty good understanding of what the team needs were as fans, and those needs seemed to be filled in. With quality prospects... Exactly - the list is far shorter ... it seems these Browns had a very consistent smarter approach to the kind of people they were drafting, not just combine stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchy Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just a good solid draft according to pre-draft rankings. We addressed needed positions and didn't reach. We also gave Baker lots of help and plugged holes in the defense. Can't ask for much more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Well.... opinions vary... and don't underestimate the "homer" factor. We've won a lot of Drafts in April since our rebirth. Â But I think we all agree that we are at leas one OT closer... and that's something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 13 hours ago, hoorta said: Way, way too early to evaluate.... Looks good on paper. Some around here thought Johnny Football was a great pick too.....  Well same "some" at least got Garrett right.😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 10:51 PM, Dutch Oven said: Puff, puff, pass. It looks good on paper its not like he drafted Justin Gilbert or Johnny Maziel. Some starters, some depth, possibly an all-pro, or a bust or 2. Even if he bats .300 beside Dorsey his much better then the rest of dimwits we had. He addressed most of our needs and lets hope for the best. Stay safe brother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 14 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Well same "some" at least got Garrett right.😂 Yep! We agreed on both of those guys, didn't we Bill? Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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