My GOD - the IRS will be bigger than.....

[FY56]

4 hours ago, cccjwh said:

Wow really don't want to talk about this warrant being served. You keep defending your lord and savior even before you know if he is guilty or not. But who are we kidding, you don't care if he breaks the law. They could have found child porn in his safe and you guys would still be voting for him next election. 

 

 It's been six years now of conspiring to find some fucking thing Trump is guilty of, and those you're rooting for have come up empty each time, so yeah defending him is proper and justified. Breaking into his home was out of desperation. Your side is scared he'll run again. Your side may not be able to pull off the scam again at the polls so some way, somehow Trump must be made a criminal in order to disqualify him from running. In the meantime, continue defending the Biden crime family

So what if they find porn? Damn straight I'd vote for him again even if they did. It has zero to do with his job. We're not looking to elect a holy man. Yours is an immoral ideology that takes the moral high ground only if it supports your agenda. That comment of yours is glaring proof that you belong to a class of touchy-feely liberal faggots who are guided by their emotions rather than reason or logic.

 

[Canton Dawg]

Instead of hiring 87,000 new IRS agents, how about hiring 87,000 armed security guards for our schools?

Just a thought.

[TexasAg1969]

Funny that the number we have now are months & months behind in clearing tax returns. I submitted my paper return (don't trust computer returns to get it right) back on Feb 25 and got a note from the IRS July 25 that they are now working my return and they needed one item clarified before sending my refund within 6-8 weeks from receipt of that clarification. I sent clarification back registered mail the next day. My point is that it took them 5 months just to start working my paper return even though most Americans now do it by computer. Unbelievable.

[Westside Steve]

9 hours ago, JAFBF said:

 

 

Awesome ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 

Hopefully my accountant has an AR-15 somewhere in the office.

WSS

[DieHardBrownsFan1]

10 hours ago, JAFBF said:

 

 

Awesome ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 

I think the majority of hires will be auditors, not special agents.

[FY56]

Our friends on the left do have a valid point on this issue.

I went through hell and back with IRS. To make a long and complex story short as possible, and through no fault of my own, the IRS discovered a discrepancy in the amount of tax I owed.

The deficiency was paid, yet I repeatedly kept receiving threatening notifications. I disputed what I owed SEVERAL TIMES using the forms available which included bank statements indicating the deficiency to the IRS was paid. This went on for months.

This is the kicker....I finally received a notice that they are reviewing my claim AFTER I had received a "final notice" threatening to seize my assets/bank accounts. WTF???

Talking to them is impossible, they have no one to take phone calls.  I called every day at 8AM sharp, and at 8:05 after being routed through a dozen prompts you receive a message indicating that the lines are full and to call back the next day.

I finally got the problem resolved when I called the IRS office in Cleveland rather than their main office. Turned out that my wife submitted the payment (electronically) using her SSN, and not mine. Even though we file jointly, my SSN is the one that counts. 

Bottom line is that they do need clerical/office people. Aside from the shortage of people taking calls and the processing of tax returns, the departments withing the IRS are inefficient at "talking to each other" due to the lack of personnel.  My experience is proof of that.

I'm not saying that they won't take advantage of this for activities that are devious. We're still talking about the IRS here.

 

 

[calfoxwc]

1 hour ago, FY56 said:

Our friends on the left do have a valid point on this issue.

I went through hell and back with IRS. To make a long and complex story short as possible, and through no fault of my own, the IRS discovered a discrepancy in the amount of tax I owed.

The deficiency was paid, yet I repeatedly kept receiving threatening notifications. I disputed what I owed SEVERAL TIMES using the forms available which included bank statements indicating the deficiency to the IRS was paid. This went on for months.

This is the kicker....I finally received a notice that they are reviewing my claim AFTER I had received a "final notice" threatening to seize my assets/bank accounts. WTF???

Talking to them is impossible, they have no one to take phone calls.  I called every day at 8AM sharp, and at 8:05 after being routed through a dozen prompts you receive a message indicating that the lines are full and to call back the next day.

I finally got the problem resolved when I called the IRS office in Cleveland rather than their main office. Turned out that my wife submitted the payment (electronically) using her SSN, and not mine. Even though we file jointly, my SSN is the one that counts. 

Bottom line is that they do need clerical/office people. Aside from the shortage of people taking calls and the processing of tax returns, the departments withing the IRS are inefficient at "talking to each other" due to the lack of personnel.  My experience is proof of that.

I'm not saying that they won't take advantage of this for activities that are devious. We're still talking about the IRS here.

 

 

That is a good point. But talking about more than doubling the size of the IRS, with the IRS already having been used against conservative groups as a leftwing weapon, to talk about wanting them to carry a gun and be ready to use deadly force if....

    may as well use the left's cia to seak into Americans' homes, plant bugs and fake evidence against anyone who speaks out against them. obaMao started the left's control over the IRS. Watch the video - "Obamao dodges the question about the IRS enemies list"

   https://www.mediaite.com/tv/krauthammer-to-hannity-if-white-house-had-any-connection-to-irs-scandal-it-will-be-fatal-problem-for-obama/

 

 

[Vambo]

Politics

Victims of IRS targeting speak about consequences of giving agency too much power

[calfoxwc]

23 minutes ago, Vambo said:

Politics

Victims of IRS targeting speak about consequences of giving agency too much power

so, they lied their asses off again.

'

Americans who earn less than $75,000 per year will make up 60% of the additional tax audits expected under Democrats' spending package, according to an analysis by House Republicans. Rettig argued that the IRS will not increase the number of tax audits performed on households earning less than $400,000.

"This is a big risk, and this is not what our government agency should be for," Guggenheim told Fox News. "They should be there to serve the people, not to harass them." '

[MLD Woody]

On 8/10/2022 at 10:21 AM, Westside Steve said:

Law & Order is one thing. A four-year in depth investigation desperately trying to find something, anything is not Law and Order it's not Justice. They are looking for b******* to keep him from beating the living hell out of Joe Biden in 24. Because you voted for a moron. Maybe a more moderate Democrat wouldn't have drawn the same deserved criticism but that's not who you picked.

WSS

Yes, the radical leftist Joe Biden hahaha

You guys are really trying to push that narrative, huh?

 

 

 

[MLD Woody]

Pushing the ideology that the government is inept, then refusing to give the government resources, is a good self fulfilling prophecy.

NOt saying the government is a well oiled machine at all, but not supporting it so you can point to it not working is an obvious tactic.

 

[MLD Woody]

On 8/9/2022 at 10:43 PM, calfoxwc said:

guess the irs will be obaMao commie's "national security-use taxes as a weapon against Americans" force.

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2022/08/09/inflation-act-would-make-irs-workforce-larger-than-the-pentagon-state-dept-fbi-and-border-patrol-combined-n609791

'Inflation Act' Would Make IRS Workforce Larger Than the Pentagon, State Dept., FBI, and Border Patrol—Combined

ODS

[Westside Steve]

24 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Yes, the radical leftist Joe Biden hahaha

You guys are really trying to push that narrative, huh?

 

 

 

It's relative. Just like when "you guys"0 meaning the lefties and Trump haters you flock with call Trump traitor or Nazi or dictator or whatever other ridiculous s*** you spout.

But regardless conservatives I think still own the scoreboard. Love it or not things were pretty good during the Trump Administration and they are the worst in recent history now.

WSS

[cccjwh]

43 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

It's relative. Just like when "you guys"0 meaning the lefties and Trump haters you flock with call Trump traitor or Nazi or dictator or whatever other ridiculous s*** you spout.

But regardless conservatives I think still own the scoreboard. Love it or not things were pretty good during the Trump Administration and they are the worst in recent history now.

WSS

Scoreboard? Conservatives always lose in the long run.

Slavery outlawed
Women getting the vote
Civil Rights
Desegregation
Social Security
Medicare/Medicaid
5 day work week
Worker rights
Gay marriage

That is just off the top of my head. Change is going to happen, no matter some much you guys' cry about it. 

I did remember a win for you conservatives. Flooded the country with guns and reduced the tax rate for super rich.

 

 

[Westside Steve]

35 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

Scoreboard? Conservatives always lose in the long run.

Slavery outlawed
Women getting the vote
Civil Rights
Desegregation
Social Security
Medicare/Medicaid
5 day work week
Worker rights
Gay marriage

That is just off the top of my head. Change is going to happen, no matter some much you guys' cry about it. 

I did remember a win for you conservatives. Flooded the country with guns and reduced the tax rate for super rich.

 

 

Scoreboard? Conservatives always lose in the long run.

Slavery outlawed imagine how much less NBA or NFL tickets would cost? Slavery was outlawed because it wasn't cost-effective.

Women getting the vote see how that worked out at least now you can vote. Not really a positive you know?

Civil Rights vague meaningless term.

Desegregation being overturned by Negroes insisting on separate everything for blacks.

Social Security a Ponzi scheme with far less desirable results that actually being responsible and investing.

Medicare/Medicaid which unfortunately made Medical Care much much more expensive than it should be. Along with private insurance.

5 day work week see below.
Worker rights workers have no rights except the right to work or not. But there really is no such thing since plenty of people work six or seven days a week.

Gay marriage who cares? Matter of fact who cares about marriage at all?

That is just off the top of my head. Change is going to happen, no matter some much you guys' cry about it. 

Off the top of your head? Sounds more like pulled right out of your ass.

WSS

[cccjwh]

10 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Scoreboard? Conservatives always lose in the long run.

Slavery outlawed imagine how much less NBA or NFL tickets would cost? Slavery was outlawed because it wasn't cost-effective.

Women getting the vote see how that worked out at least now you can vote. Not really a positive you know?

Civil Rights vague meaningless term.

Desegregation being overturned by Negroes insisting on separate everything for blacks.

Social Security a Ponzi scheme with far less desirable results that actually being responsible and investing.

Medicare/Medicaid which unfortunately made Medical Care much much more expensive than it should be. Along with private insurance.

5 day work week see below.
Worker rights workers have no rights except the right to work or not. But there really is no such thing since plenty of people work six or seven days a week.

Gay marriage who cares? Matter of fact who cares about marriage at all?

That is just off the top of my head. Change is going to happen, no matter some much you guys' cry about it. 

Off the top of your head? Sounds more like pulled right out of your ass.

WSS

That is whole lot of crazy. You guys must really be stressed, having a bad month. Sad.

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

It's relative. Just like when "you guys"0 meaning the lefties and Trump haters you flock with call Trump traitor or Nazi or dictator or whatever other ridiculous s*** you spout.

But regardless conservatives I think still own the scoreboard. Love it or not things were pretty good during the Trump Administration and they are the worst in recent history now.

WSS

Thousands of people were dying every day and unemployment was at record highs. But ok. 

 

 

And if you're comparing calling Biden a radical leftist to calling Trump a Nazi and then both being ridiculous shit then I agree with you. That was the point. 

There's a desire from the right to paint Biden as way more leftist than he is. Just like the desire to remember jan ,6th as a rowdy picnic. 

[Vambo]

9 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Thousands of people were dying every day and unemployment was at record highs. But ok. 

 

 

And if you're comparing calling Biden a radical leftist to calling Trump a Nazi and then both being ridiculous shit then I agree with you. That was the point. 

There's a desire from the right to paint Biden as way more leftist than he is. Just like the desire to remember jan ,6th as a rowdy picnic. mostly peaceful protest.

FIFY

[Westside Steve]

41 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Thousands of people were dying every day and unemployment was at record highs. But ok. 

 

 

And if you're comparing calling Biden a radical leftist to calling Trump a Nazi and then both being ridiculous shit then I agree with you. That was the point. 

There's a desire from the right to paint Biden as way more leftist than he is. Just like the desire to remember jan ,6th as a rowdy picnic. 

1 and it got worse when you idiots took over at least Trump fast tracked the vaccine. Which your vice presidential candidate said she wouldn't take because it was trump. 

In January 6th was nothing. Especially compared to the dozens of actual violent burning riots by Biden voters. And on federal property and killing police officers and civilians etc etc

[MLD Woody]

9 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

1 and it got worse when you idiots took over at least Trump fast tracked the vaccine. Which your vice presidential candidate said she wouldn't take because it was trump. 

In January 6th was nothing. Especially compared to the dozens of actual violent burning riots by Biden voters. And on federal property and killing police officers and civilians etc etc

Alright Steve 

 

If that's your reality, I'm not convincing you otherwise 

[Westside Steve]

6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Alright Steve 

 

If that's your reality, I'm not convincing you otherwise 

No weapons no murders like with Biden voters and that's your reality. And the left wing press and AOC lied about it without shame. Remember when the stupid whore said they were banging on her door? And she wasn't even in the building? Remember the accusation of murdering the police officer by beating him to death which never happened? No apology whatsoever. So just blow me

[cccjwh]

26 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

No weapons no murders like with Biden voters and that's your reality. And the left wing press and AOC lied about it without shame. Remember when the stupid whore said they were banging on her door? And she wasn't even in the building? Remember the accusation of murdering the police officer by beating him to death which never happened? No apology whatsoever. So just blow me

Woody you went and triggered Steve. I see that Steve also skipped the Jan 6 hearings.

[Westside Steve]

17 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

Woody you went and triggered Steve. I see that Steve also skipped the Jan 6 hearings.

They're b******* we all know it. And you are an idiot.

WSS

[DieHardBrownsFan1]

Whats the difference in saying b******* and bitch?

[Canton Dawg]

14 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said:

Whats the difference in saying b******* and bitch?

One is a noun, and the other is an adjective.

[cccjwh]

2 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

They're b******* we all know it. And you are an idiot.

WSS

It's OK Steve, You'll make it through this.

[calfoxwc]

https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2022/08/12/friday-toon-so-87000-armed-irs-agents-walk-into-a-bar-n610896

[Canton Dawg]

[FY56]

On 8/12/2022 at 9:21 AM, cccjwh said:

Scoreboard? Conservatives always lose in the long run.

Slavery outlawed
Women getting the vote
Civil Rights
Desegregation
Social Security
Medicare/Medicaid
5 day work week
Worker rights
Gay marriage

That is just off the top of my head. Change is going to happen, no matter some much you guys' cry about it. 

I did remember a win for you conservatives. Flooded the country with guns and reduced the tax rate for super rich.

 

 

 

To borrow from Reagan- "Liberals know so much that isn't so"

Fast Facts that are good for you to know:

The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's

It was liberalism in its day that supported slavery. John Locke known as the "father of liberalism" tried to rationalize its legitimacy.

The Republican party was formed for the purpose of banning slavery.

Although those against the Civil Rights act were Democrat conservatives, you should be aware of the fact the 14th Amendment was written by Republicans and The Civil Rights Act was passed thanks to Republicans. More Dems opposed it.

As mentioned, Conservatism didn't exist in 1920. Male chauvinism at the time knew no boundaries or affiliations. Furthermore, it was the Republicans who championed the women's right to vote.

Social Security proposed by Roosevelt himself was not a liberal/conservative thing as well. Initially opposed by Republicans but in the end gained overwhelming support.

Granted Republicans have opposed Labor Unions, but again has nothing to do with "conservatism losing" simply because blue collar workers are largely conservative. My old man voted Dem and was pro union and a conservative. To suggest conservatives were against the 5-day work week is absurd.

Gay marriage who cares. You win. Good for you.

Also, you may have been taught that the white man invented slavery. They did not.

 

No doubt the Dems back in the day proposed some great things. The GI Bill for example. But yesterday's Democrat is todays Demonrat, and certainly not a JFK Democrat who spoke like a conservative and would be ripped to shreds by you guys.

 

[calfoxwc]

Speaking of JFK - we watched "PT109" last night. He was the serious real deal. If you read "Why England Slept" ...you will read some excellent, brilliant stuff like no democrat today is capable of even pretending to understand.

   The true story of JFK in "PT109", verified by every sailor involved back then - he was a serious leader, had tremendous integrity, all the values that made for great men.

   I didn't agree with Hubert Humphrey all that much, but most folks respected him. etc etc. lbj was a slut of a politician, it happens with either political party.

  but today's dem party - is no longer an American political party. It's a deep state, corrupt bunch of losers who are all in for power, wealth, and selling out to continue to be "safe" from harassment by the collective. It's very much, now, like the "Star Trek" borg.

Remember the "borg" ? "We will assimilate you".

   if they can't assimilate you, they will destroy you - your reputation, maybe end your life. (see the several people who crossed the clintons, and ended up dead. (like foster - "suicide". another "plane crash". etc etc etc.

  Todays "dems" are very, very much like the early nazi party in PRE WWII history.

 I won't go into that comparison here, but it has been made by some who LIVED back then, and wrote about it.

At every turn - we don't matter to the left - we are in their way. Their steamroller intends to dominate every single aspect of our American lives as they can muster an idea about.

  Per the IRS more than doubling in size - only about those rich companies? seriously ? do they really think there are 87,000 companies out there who don't pay their "fair share" ??? or more? and they need armed? The IRS can't just refer to the corrupt fbi to storm a company with THEIR GUNS?

  Arming the doj? EPA? etc etc?

Be very afraid - if a political party decided they were going to change America to where they never lost control - that political party would be doing exactly what the "dems" are doing today.

Because any party that was planning on never losing control of America - would know that America would never go for their Constiution/Bill of Rights to be destroyed. So, ahead of time, they put armed threats into every dept of the gov.

  and "lean" on every single American to lose more and more of their wealth - because socialism "is a great idea, until yu run out of other people's money". (Margaret Thatcher)

 So, if a corrupt socialist gov - when they run out of money (they will) - what do they do when the entire bunch of millions of citizens rebel in desperation?

Well, millions of people are murdered, or starved out. Communist china - mao and his army committed genocide - murdered MILLIONS. MILLIONS were starved out in the Ukraine - by the soviet union. Stalin.

"The Killing Fields" in Cambodia. Every time a populace is disarmed, the gov runs like a steam roller over the people.

The extreme, mentally ill arrogance ot the nazi party? millions were murdered.

Today, the mentally ill arrogance of russian henchmen troops - rapem torture, murder, genocide, in the Ukraine.

So, that is history.

Of course, it is dumb to think that that could ever happen in America.

But, the left demands to disarm Americans. The left is betraying and slurring all Americans - veterans, conservatives, patriots, those who believe in our Constitution/Bill of Rights, those who value Life, those who vote for a president that they cannot control and intimidate, those who speak out against sick indoctrination of their kids in communis...I mean...some liberal public schools. Those who use any word the left has banned. Those who criticize the leftwing gov. Those who want to keep their own wealth. Those who prep, grow their own food. Own their own property. Those who speak out when they are told to shut up.

All those who elect a president that refuses to be their puppet, but instead tells them he is loyal to the people of America, and does hundreds of good/great things for his country like he PROMISED.

Imagine the irs having the power to storm your home and your business because they made some "clerical error" in your audit. And you just happen to be running high in the polls as a republican for governor.

   You think they won't "Pres Trump" you? seriously?

but, if you toe the "red line", you can be as corrupt, vicious, and wealthy as you want, right?

as a nazi, you had total power to do anything you wanted. it would be sanctioned to be corrupt.

like hillary. the bidens. the clintons. every dem in congress. the mayors of corrupt (dem) bit cities in America. like the fbi.

like the dirty players in our gov - higgardly, brennan, comey, mueller, klinesmith, peter strzok, lisa page, vindman, william holder (AG), garland "AG",  retired gen milley, lois lerner, dirty chrissy wray....(irs going after conservative groups, remember? she recently ? apologized.), loretta lynch ("ag"), and that is just off the cuff.

there are so many more. but, arming the IRS? hiring them to be willing to use deadly force ????????????

how many different police forces does America need, for goodness sakes?

   Want to know how bad this gov is?

They are trying to paint every single American who will vote against them as their enemy.

"threats to democracy" for voting against them. Especially if you vote for a president they can't own, dominate, use as another frightened puppet.

read on:

https://news.yahoo.com/retired-us-army-generals-warn-111254086.html