hoorta Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 23 hours ago, gumby73 said: My fear is a team, such as the Chargers, (who's defense blows weekly/ with talent) under Brandon (boneheaded) Staley.. Should/could fire B. Staley ? To hire a DC such as Jim Schwartz or Dan Quinn as their next head coach.. I've got more confidence with Stef coaching style, over watching Brandon Staley weekly 🫣 & dem Charges lose again this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Kvoethe said: Baker kicked ass again today!!! Anyone take tia's advice to bet the Bucs? Guess Da Bears really do suck bad. 1 hour ago, nickers said: Yup and Mr.Peepee still looks pedestrian From NFL.com.... "Blessed with good blocking against a limp pass rush, Mayfield torched the Bears' secondary, finding chunk gains easily. Evans made a host of big plays, including a 70-yard catch and run and a 32-yard TD. Mayfield went 26-of-34 passing for 317 yards and a score without taking a sack. The Bucs offense moved the ball at will between the 20s, racking up 437 total yards -- including 103 scrimmage yards and a TD from running back Rachaad White. The blowout would have ensued earlier had it not been for red zone issues (1 of 4). Sunday was a reminder that with weapons at his disposal in Tampa Bay, Mayfield can still make plays when his head isn't scrambled by pressure." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, hoorta said: Anyone take tia's advice to bet the Bucs? Guess Da Bears really do suck bad. And that game should have been worse. Closer to 30-17. Bucs weren't great in the Redzone against Minny, but I figured it was because of the Vikings D-front being decent. Turns out, they're just not showing up as an efficient redzone rushing offense so far. That will absolutely be a liability moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, hoorta said: Mayfield can still make plays when his head isn't scrambled by pressure." Eagles/ Saints/ Lions on deck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 "Mayfield can still make plays when his head isn't scrambled by wr's getting open" lol Meanwhile: (bears' oline is rated #21) (Browns oline rated #2) https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-2023-offseason 14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Down 5) Projected Starting Lineup LT Tristan Wirfs – Played RT in 2022 LG Matt Feiler C Ryan Jensen RG Cody Mauch – Rookie RT Luke Goedeke The Bucs are taking a gamble that arguably the best right tackle in football will transfer that play to the left side, where he played in college. Wirfs is early enough into his career that he should be fine, but it’s certainly a risk. Tampa Bay’s line will now have to ply its trade without Tom Brady and the fastest average time to throw in the NFL making life easier. Best Player: Tristan Wirfs Tristan Wirfs allowed just five total pressures all season and has three straight years of elite play at right tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Another year of this nonsense? If some of you are so obsessed with Baker, become Buccaneer fans. I'm sure there is a TB Bucs version of this message board. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Another year of this nonsense? If some of you are so obsessed with Baker, become Buccaneer fans. I'm sure there is a TB Bucs version of this message board. FWIW, there's only ONE guy here who still follows Baker religiously. And bothers to start threads about him. Hey, Jarvis Landry thread anyone? Hell, maybe we should start a thread about him? FWIW, our former Brown Jabrill Peepers (I thought he might be out of the league by now) actually had SIX tackles against the Dolphins on MNF!!! Lets start a Jabrill thread, what ya say? Unnatural man-crush... Let's see what happens when Maker Bayfield goes up against an Iggles team that has had their mini-bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Another year of this nonsense? If some of you are so obsessed with Baker, become Buccaneer fans. I'm sure there is a TB Bucs version of this message board. That was the local game in my area so I watched it. Not only are the Bears horrible - at 1 point in the game when Brisker and Jackson were both injured - the Bears didn't have 1 projected starter on the field in the secondary. BTW, that's the dumb football team that gave All Planet LB Roquan Smith to the Ratbirds for 2 draft picks they'll probably end up trading to smarter teams at a later date if they pan out.. Anyway, I thought I'd check out the game. In doing so, the commentators said Chase Claypool apologized to the entire team and coaching staff for the lame effort in their opener and vowed to be the player they need him to be a better teammate. He even contributed a TD reception. Geee, how nice of him! I feel like I need to take shower for even bringing something like that up. I guess there was a lot of drama about him not trying. As for Baker, the REAL question is - will he end up being more like Jameis Winston or Tom Brady with unlimited access to the top 2 WRs in the conference? Baker was the guy I expected him to be against one of the worst teams in the league this year. Baker threw 1 TD pass and led some good drives here and there. Having said that, after the Bucs scored a TD early in the 3rd quarter - the Bears didn't give up another TD to the Bucs offense. The Bears inexplicably got to within 7 points in the 2nd half. Their offensive line is just horrible. Watching the Bears made me really appreciate the overall talent the Browns have today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Baker looked good yesterday. I got the Sunday ticket and ended up watching much of the Buc's game. I have always been a Bucs fan of sorts. My parents retired to the area and my Dad bought season tickets for their 1st season and held them many years. I always went to the Browns game when they played in Tampa. I also went to many non-Browns games. I don't know if it is so much about the receivers as much as it is about Baker. I think he has matured and possibly been humbled a bit. He finally understands that he doesn't need to be "the guy" He just needs to move the team down the field. If he was still in Cleveland, it still wouldn't be working out for him. He would still be trying to be "the guy" and the fans would still be expecting him to be that. I think he has finally settled in to a place where he can be comfortable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Early line is out, I expected this to be -5.5 tops. I'm sure we'll see some movement closer to that as the weekend approaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 13 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Another year of this nonsense? If some of you are so obsessed with Baker, become Buccaneer fans. I'm sure there is a TB Bucs version of this message board. Well if we take the fact several here were saying JFF was so good in college because Mike Evans bailed him out, may (field) we make the same conclusion now at T.B.?🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 hours ago, ballpeen said: Baker looked good yesterday. I got the Sunday ticket and ended up watching much of the Buc's game. I have always been a Bucs fan of sorts. My parents retired to the area and my Dad bought season tickets for their 1st season and held them many years. I always went to the Browns game when they played in Tampa. I also went to many non-Browns games. I don't know if it is so much about the receivers as much as it is about Baker. I think he has matured and possibly been humbled a bit. He finally understands that he doesn't need to be "the guy" He just needs to move the team down the field. If he was still in Cleveland, it still wouldn't be working out for him. He would still be trying to be "the guy" and the fans would still be expecting him to be that. I think he has finally settled in to a place where he can be comfortable. Having something like 4 different Offensive Coordinators in his 1st 3 years probably had a lot to do with that. In his 2nd year, the Browns lost both starting Tackles on opening day plus the backup Tackle Hubbard vrs the TN Titans. That'll make anyone antsy in the pocket. I still see some inconsistency with how quickly he gets through his progression reads. He's very streaky with it. I can't help but think that's a permanent thing but I've been wrong before. The change was as necessary for Baker as it was for the Browns. It's up to him to prove to a team he's a keeper. He's gone from Cleveland to Carolina to LA to Tampa so I think getting that consistency improved could give him a home in a league that needs 32 starting QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 I follow all sorts of stuff, and several players. LIke, Jared Goff - I thought he was "iffy" coming out of the draft. But he is a far better qb with the Lions now than he was with the rams. https://www.foxsports.com › stories › nfl › lions-dan-campbell-jared-goff-better-qb-with-lions-than-with-rams Lions HC Dan Campbell: Jared Goff a better QB with Lions than with Rams ... Jun 6, 2023Lions HC Dan Campbell: Jared Goff a better QB with Lions than with Rams. Upon the Detroit Lions' acquisition of Jared Goff from the Los Angeles Rams in 2021, it was widely believed that he would ... ************************************** The difference in teams? oline/coaching/system/wr's....... The Lions beat the Chiefs. The Chiefs struggled, didn't look like the same dominant offense. Of course, Kelce was out, and he makes Mahomes magic. Without Kelce at TE, Mahomes struggled to fine open receivers, too. Same qb. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article279063729.html " The Chiefs’ offensive line was excellent most of the night with pass blocking, but too often, Mahomes couldn’t find open receivers. That, or his teammates dropped the ball. Mahomes’ last gasp at pulling out a miracle ended fittingly. On fourth-and-25 with 2:09 left, he escaped the pocket and threw a ball up for grabs that Skyy Moore jumped for but couldn’t pull down, despite getting two hands on the pass. Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article279063729.html#storylink=cpy" ************************************************ It isn't just about Baker. Brady without Gronk? tough times. Mahomes without Kelce? tough times. No more simply throwing the ball to your wide open all-world TE. That took it's toll on Mahomes in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: Brady without Gronk? tough times. 4 Superbowls including the largest comeback in one ever. If that's tough times, then where do the Browns sign up? 37 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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