Flugel Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Orion said: So, what will the new OC actually do? We have a HC who calls the plays. He's not going to stop calling the plays. (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands) IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller. And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system. Ya know it was kind of refreshing to see Stef's play calling change as he went from QB to QB throughout the season. He was able to tailor things to the QB that he had to trot out onto the field that particular week. And when he got to Flacco the RPO stuff had to go into moth balls. I think whoever it will be - he'll help with the design of the offense from the pass receiving route tree to the running game to the blocking schemes and pass protections. In saying that, he'll have to identify what Watson has done/does best; and tailor all that into the game plans and plays Stefanski will choose from in every situation. If they add the right guy - he can be extremely helpful! This is why I like Roman's experience and the style of QBs he worked with. It's also good to have the OC an ear shot away on game day if he's seeing any mismatches upfront to exploit and/or anything to be aware of with the LBers or Secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, Flugel said: Thanks Gumbs! Yeah, he's THAT impressive! small stuff makes my day 🤣 Roman makes a lot of sense. I'm not seeing a honest hard nose coach like Roman from that side of the ball. (a Schwartz) If Lamar can take hard/critical coaching? Why not D.Watson ? 59 minutes ago, Orion said: We have a HC who calls the plays. He's not going to stop calling the plays. (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands) IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller. And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system. This offensive coaching staff, started getting weird when Mayfield didn't want a QB coach. So Stef, sent AVP along side Baker on the bench with the windows tablet.. Have we seen anything change since Watson took over the position? Stef's thinking... OC/QB coach ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, syd said: Cleveland Browns Browns OC search: Which candidate do you hope the Browns Lindy Infante's son or grandson😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 5 hours ago, gumby73 said: small stuff makes my day 🤣 Roman makes a lot of sense. I'm not seeing a honest hard nose coach like Roman from that side of the ball. (a Schwartz) If Lamar can take hard/critical coaching? Why not D.Watson ? This offensive coaching staff, started getting weird when Mayfield didn't want a QB coach. So Stef, sent AVP along side Baker on the bench with the windows tablet.. Have we seen anything change since Watson took over the position? Stef's thinking... OC/QB coach ? 😆 Never a dull moment. About 5 months ago I was writing about Herman Fontenot but I kept calling him Mike Oliphant (which was quite the contrast to the pleasant surprise I thought I was presenting to readers). Looking at your last 2 questions above, I thought Musgrave hired to assist with some of that stuff. When we really think about it - the two 1st round QBs on the roster combined for a 9-2 record. Watson went 5-1 and Flacco went 4-1. Not bad considering how much of that was without starting Tackles. Meanwhile Driskel, Walker, and DTR were a combined 2-4. In fairness, I don't know if a coach or miracle worker solves that reality... My guess is the volume of turnovers red flagged a need for changes as well as help tailoring the offense to the QB's talent/skillset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Cleveland Browns Browns OC candidate Kellen Moore takes job with the Eagles instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 4 offensive coordinator candidates still coaching the Browns could be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, syd said: Cleveland Browns Browns OC candidate Kellen Moore takes job with the Eagles instead Phew!!!!!!!!!! 1 less worry! Great job with these updates - Thanks Syd! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 You almost have to think there is a coach the Browns really want to be their OC, or at least really want to interview, that is on one of these four teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 On 1/27/2024 at 5:40 PM, Orion said: Greg and I have something in common. Neither of us have ever been to a Masters Champions dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 11 hours ago, ballpeen said: Greg and I have something in common. Neither of us have ever been to a Masters Champions dinner. I enjoyed those days...the players of the time, Greg, Fuzzy, Fred Couples, I liked Payne Stewart. He played blues harp in the unofficial PGA band. I think Peter Jacobsen played guitar...I forget who the other band member was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Orion said: Peter Jacobsen he used to put on a event called Peters Party all the greats were there jack tom all of em. plus celebrities. you could eat and drink there on the cheap also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2024 at 1:14 AM, Flugel said: Meanwhile Driskel, Walker, and DTR were a combined 2-4. Just a random thought, I thought momentum was important for the last game against the Bengals. I know how some people feel about PJ Walker but for the sake of argument, I thought they would have been better off starting Walker over Driskel because he knows the system and has a win. I get it (why they brought Driskel in), I just don't agree that at the end of the season going on a playoff run is the time to see if you can hit on a guy and maybe upgrade a position. Momentum and confidence going into a wild card game is more important. The Bengals game should have been a tune up game for the Texans and they shit the bed. And I think it carried over into the Texans game because they just putrid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Neo said: Just a random thought, I thought momentum was important for the last game against the Bengals. I know how some people feel about PJ Walker but for the sake of argument, I thought they would have been better off starting Walker over Driskel because he knows the system and has a win. I get it (why they brought Driskel in), I just don't agree that at the end of the season going on a playoff run is the time to see if you can hit on a guy and maybe upgrade a position. Momentum and confidence going into a wild card game is more important. The Bengals game should have been a tune up game for the Texans and they shut the bed. And I think it carried over into the Texans game because they just putrid. I like your point about about Walker over Driskel for the final game. We all know how much Walker struggled; but the decision to start their junior varsity showed us winning wasn't the objective anyway. The FO wanted to audition a guy they felt could upgrade the backup QB position for the playoffs. Week 18 isn't really the best time to be looking for that upgrade as we learned. Aside from the uncertainty of how much of an upgrade could he be - the guy needed to learn the offense and get chemistry with the receivers if he was only going to be 1 snap/injury away from starting in the playoffs. That's not nearly enough time to make Driskel efficient. This was a learning experience for everyone from the FO all the way down to us fans in a season with a relentless volume of injuries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Report: Browns coach interviews for Titans coordinator position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 good for him Patriots Hire Browns OC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 On 2/1/2024 at 6:42 PM, syd said: good for him Patriots Hire Browns OC sad to see him go - he is highly respected all around the NFL. And the rest of the NFL knows he was just a scapegoat. Check it out: https://mirrorsports.co.uk/2024/01/25/pro-bowler-joel-bitonio-breaks-silence-on-browns-firing-offensive-coaches/ " “I cherished AVP. He was an extraordinary fellow and turned out to be beneficial things for us,” Bitonio said, per Nate Ulrich of the Akron Signal Diary. ” I know him and [head mentor Kevin] Stefanski and actually the entire staff worked really hard of getting us in the right plays. I didn’t know anything about [Van Pelt’s] until I saw it on Twitter like every other person, so it’s generally a tad of shock.” Bitonio remarked further, showing that the decision to continue on from Van Pelt might have been more Stefanski’s than that of senior supervisor Andrew Berry." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress - Dawgs By Nature Oh C'mon! Does Breer really expect us to believe that Haslem & DePo were behind this? I mean, does it sound at all like those two to get rid of the only guy to call plays to a playoff victory for us this century? Watson's progress! AVP has had to work with a myriad of QB's the last two seasons....because Watson A) wasn't allowed to play, and b) was injured most of the time. It's AVP's fault. Geeze. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 32 minutes ago, Orion said: Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress - Dawgs By Nature Oh C'mon! Does Breer really expect us to believe that Haslem & DePo were behind this? I mean, does it sound at all like those two to get rid of the only guy to call plays to a playoff victory for us this century? Watson's progress! AVP has had to work with a myriad of QB's the last two seasons....because Watson A) wasn't allowed to play, and b) was injured most of the time. It's AVP's fault. Geeze. ∆Yes sir, silly season is upon us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Hmmmphhhfff tis le offseason!!!!... Thank God I have a big year of travels ahead.. I just hope I'm up for the task... Most days pretty good.. some days meh... But the distractions are welcome... Lets just hope the team.. And the Fans come out okay... big prayers for Nick Chubb... Bigger prayers for us!!!..We invest so much from our hearts... I honestly expect a different looking team next season... Can't say which way... It's gonna depend where the losses and gains happen.. That within itself is a game of Craps..... More smoke and mirrors I presume... That's not always bad... But you can only trick a pony so long.... Watch,wait and see as it were.... "Buh dum tiss!!!!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 11 hours ago, nickers said: Hmmmphhhfff tis le offseason!!!!... Thank God I have a big year of travels ahead. So where ya goin' this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 Just now, syd said: Browns assistant coach Ben Blooms leaves for Titans role as they seem to go together Cleveland Browns Report/Rumor on Browns interviewing former Buckeyes star LB & current OSU coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 He was our DLine coach....and we recently hired a new one...so this makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 On 2/7/2024 at 7:29 AM, TexasAg1969 said: So where ya goin' this year? Fla to visit Mum for a week.. do some repairs for her.... Then a trip to southern Ohio to celebrate my nieces college graduation (Miami) in the spring... There's a camping trip inbetween there somewhere.. Then a big trip to Europe in June.. And then Deep Creek State Park in west Maryland for a week in August followed by another camping trip in the fall.. Id say my plate is well full! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 9 hours ago, nickers said: Fla to visit Mum for a week.. do some repairs for her.... Then a trip to southern Ohio to celebrate my nieces college graduation (Miami) in the spring... There's a camping trip inbetween there somewhere.. Then a big trip to Europe in June.. And then Deep Creek State Park in west Maryland for a week in August followed by another camping trip in the fall.. Id say my plate is well full! What part of Florida Nicks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 32 minutes ago, Flugel said: What part of Florida Nicks? Same question. Near any good beaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Flugel said: What part of Florida Nicks? Ponce Inlet on the east coast between Daytona and New Smyrna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Same question. Near any good beaches? My Mothers backyard is the beach... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 3 hours ago, nickers said: My Mothers backyard is the beach... Will your Mom adopt a new brother nickers? I still snorkel.🤿😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 53 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Will your Mom adopt a new brother nickers? I still snorkel.🤿😁 Hell no her child rearing years are OVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 4 hours ago, nickers said: My Mothers backyard is the beach... Ghoolie, if you're reading - this is Myrtle Beach, SC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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