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The child like excitement on the big Chubb run is all of us, Jim. Never change.

I mean, nah man. He grabbed his jersey first sure, but then his hands went right to this throat for an extended period of time. Maybe it wasn't Homer Simpson strangling Bart level of hands on neck, but just because a jersey was between his hands and neck doesn't mean he wasn't attempting to choke the dude. Your head doesn't tilt back the way OBJ's did if he's on his chest plate. Marlon essentially admitted what he did and apologized. It's honestly pathetic journalism from the Ravens, and this isn't a "hurr Ravens suck durr" type of thing. That article reads like someone trying to explain how their business isn't a pyramid scheme. If you have to explain why something DIDN'T happen, it just did.

I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you, I don't anyway. That argument doesn't really hold a ton of water though when you think about it. People steal from Walmart every day, but that doesn't mean the police shouldn't get involved if someone robs the place at gun point. Trust me, I've been in scraps on the field where spit and eye pokes weren't out of the question. I get it's part of the game But for Marlon to choke (read: strangle) an opponent in plain view is the equivalent of my example of a robbing a store at gun point. It went egregiously above the scrappy nature of football (of which I'd include blows being thrown). FWIW, I'd be saying the same thing if the situation was reversed.

All I know is after the bye week (and the Patriots) the schedule looks like this: Denver Bills Steelers (x2) Dolphins Cardinals Bengals Before a home game against Baltimore. If this squad can just hang on (and watching last nights game), this division and the playoffs is there for the taking in the back half of the year. No reason to think this team couldn't rattle off 6 of 7 in that stretch.

That sort of hit was dirty 20 years ago, let alone now with better protections for players. Lord knows I wasn't a prime time player, but I played enough football to know you tackle like that on purpose. I have no problem with the suspension at all, but I'd be surprised if the full season holds up. 8-10 games no doubt though.

Fair enough, but this is where we just aren't going to agree. The plan has objectively worked, so why mess up a good thing? Obviously if we get gashed Monday night, the 1/2 time plan needs to be molded. But simply stated, if the defense with these dudes playing (which seems likely next week) play as well as they did the last two weeks we have a great chance to win. No reason to change that up.

I don't disagree, but the below poster is exactly right. There's probably 3-4 cases of a dude throwing a blow like OBJ did on any given football Sunday. He was wrong to do it, and is very likely to get fined. Here's the direct replay: https://sports.yahoo.com/drama-in-browns-ravens-leads-to-obj-getting-chokeslammed-by-marlon-humphrey-200322604.html. OBJ was clearly getting held by the way, but that action "punch" isn't something that makes you recoil. Humphry on the other hand committed what would be a felony and even attempted murder in some cases, and that's not being dramatic. It just ain't the same. If Burfict just got a full year suspension for a helmet to helmet hit, there's no way this shouldn't get at least one game. It's absolutely unacceptable.

I mean, I don't what to say that's going to change your mind. Your view is the Ravens schemed poorly, but my view is that Wilks schemed strongly. To the bolded point, this is exactly what we did and limited the Rams offense to 20 points and the Ravens to essentially 18 points (removing the BS TD at the end). We did that with LITERALLY our entire starting secondary out last week along with our starting OLB, and this week basically being the same. What more do you want or expect? I'd be happy with that even with all 11 starters on the field. The pundits are rightly praising Wilks for his plan, cause it's working. You'd be a bit short-sighted to suggest we lost the Rams game based on defense. I'm being very realistic in understanding these 2nd string dudes aren't going to the Pro Bowl, but I just don't see how one can possibly be more than strongly impressed with Wilks and this unit of players. If it ain't broke, don't fix it and this defense is playing very well right now.

I mean, that was overtly the scheme by Wilks to limit big plays. You really can't be mad that a corner back isn't making the play on a 5 yard pass when they're 12 yards off the ball. I'm not saying these guys are all-pro, but I'd bet based on the last two weeks teams would be frothing to have the talent we have in the secondary. Holding two of the most dynamic offenses in football in check with 2nd string dudes is pretty dang impressive.

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/video-marlon-humphrey-chokes-odell-beckham-jr-browns-ravens-01dnz7ab2ds0 If only there was a referee standing right over the players to eject a dude for literally choking a player on the field..man, too bad. Anything less than some game suspensions is unacceptable, for both the player and the ref.

A lot of encouraging things to lean me towards "we're the real deal". In no particular order: -I said all week I hoped Wilks and the crew looked at the KC tape on how to limit Jackson in making him a pocket thrower. Those end runs for 10 yards are dazzling, but manageable in the context of the game. I would have liked to see them play up a little more, but another excellent defensive plan by Wilks. It also should please everyone how deep our secondary talent is (why I wasn't much about drafting Greedy, but I'll save my rant). -In a similar vein, kudos big time to Kitchens on realizing the weakness of the Ravens defense-edge speed/secondary depth. Humphry played well on OBJ, but Landry obviously feasted on the other subpar dudes. Who's talking now, Earl? Also, I really hope Humphry gets a game or two suspension. The man committed felony assault, and that's not being dramatic. -To continue, the use of 12 personnel and edge runs was the "seal of victory" this week. The Ravens simply had no answer for the toss plays in this alignment, to obviously include the big run which put the game away. -I will give props to the Ravens running game, however. That type of offense with a TD lead late in the 3rd quarter is going to be tough to stop. Fortunately for Browns fans, that defense aint what it used to be in holding leads.

I was referring to the 3rd and 10 last in the first half, where Landry clearly was a yard further up the field but they upheld the call. We snuck it for the 1st down sure, but just another file to put into the "how the refs continue to mess up".

I’m happy to admit I was wrong about kicker choice. Siebert has been right down the middle

I’m not calling a doctor when this Chubb lasts longer than 4 hours.

Prevent defense prevents wins.

I hope people appreciate how deep our secondary talent is. These guys are balling.

We gotta press up. Stop letting them do exactly what they want to do on offense

Which is way replay exists. It’s unacceptable.

I’m so fucking tired of these god damn referees. How can any of you mofos defend them? They missed that by a yard and a half!

That is just as much on Landry as Baker. He stopped the route.

Exactly. There’s obvious intent and that has to be important.

The new crack back rule makes me irrationally angry. Cause a guy isn’t looking means they can’t block them? Garbage

Not deferring and starting on offense is again a small, but objectively wrong coaching decision.

The old "injury bug" phrase is quickly attaching itself to Denzel Ward, that's for sure.

for the short-term, I'm actually "okay" with the Browns being 2-4 going into the bye. I sincerely hope our unit has the ability to steal a game despite I believe going in as underdogs the next three weeks (maybe Seattle?). Going to New England after the bye just sucks, but after that patriots game there's a whole of winnable games on the schedule. If the squad can right the ship even if we're 2-5 (which could be very likely), the schedule is there to win 4 of 5, 5 of 6 potentially.