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Our redzone productivity has dropped in his absence.

In all fairness, Greedy and Ward were out and Russell Wilson feasted on TJ Carrie and Mitchell. You also need good corners for an effective pass rush, another reason why Freddie should've called a ball control offense.

The weird thing is Baker never made these type of awful throws last season. Only with the Browns can a QB regress so quickly and the irony is that Freddie was hired so Baker could continue to develop under the same OC, instead he's worse. Now we're in a worst case scenario: lumped with an inexperienced coach and a QB who's regressing.

This is why I call BS on Freddie's explanation of his decision. We were playing against the top rated QB in the league who at the minimum would've played keepaway.

Don't believe that rumor but if Freddie coaches a losing season or misses the playoffs, I think they'll cut their losses. Freddie's aggressive playcalling is advertising for his next job if things don't work out here.

The pass was late and allowed the defenders to close in on him. He threw another late pass in that game to Beckham who has also sandwiched but fortunately wasn't injured.

Not really a revision for me as my preseason prediction was 10-6 . They're currently a game behind my expectations by losing the Tennessee game.

Fells is an excellent blocking TE with better hands than Demetrius Harris whom he replaced. With our O line woes he definitely would've helped. Seals is Njoku's back up, a pass catching TE.

The Detroit GB refereeing is a testament to this thread's title. That was criminal yesterday and handed GB the game.

Agree, we forget that the 1-31 Hue Era was marked by more close games than blowouts, especially in the first half of the seasons.

I've watched every single QB since '99. Baker last year was the best one since then but this year he's becoming similar to many of them which I think is due to poor QB coaching this year. Statistically in the first 6 games he's indistinguishable from some of the worst we've had but I think better coaching will improve that.

I had this penciled in as a loss when the schedule was released purely based on the fact that Seattle’s a mature well coached team vs a rookie coach and inexperienced team. I didn’t watch most of the game as Sunday Ticket streaming didn’t work until the last 10 minutes of the fourth quarter. I watched them take the lead but had no doubt Russell Wilson would bring them back, however after over more than 3 min left on the clock I waited to see if Baker would surprise me and unsurprisingly he didn’t. Not that he’s a terrible QB but he hasn’t been coached to become a patient QB this season.

Game pass stream isn't working in my area for some reason. Trailing by 5 but how have we looked?

Daniel Jones will be under a lot of pressure because that's the easiest way to defend a rookie QB. I don't have the stats with me but how many times has he been pressured with just 4 and sacked by a two man rush like we were last week?

Also agree plus I don't know how he can predetermine to throw to frikking stone hands Demetrius Harris. I'll keep on repeating it, replacing Darren Fells and Orson Charles with Harris and Brown was another big mistake by Dorsey especially after he weakened the Oline by trading Zeitler.

It appears as if the replacement of Zeitler with Kush had a bigger impact than expected. The guys on Surviving the Season podcast observed that teams with short QBs eg Saints and Seahawks (Drew Brees and Russell Wilson) have excellent guards. These guards ensure the throwing lanes that are absolutely necessary for shorter QBs success are kept open. This season our throwing lanes have shrunk evidenced by Baker’s batted passes of 7 so far when he had 9 all last season. Have you seen Baker climb the pocket this season, which he used to do with aplomb last year? Dorsey failed to pay attention to detail here and it’s even more egregious since we’re hardly getting much production from Olivier Vernon.

That would be great but I'm yet to be convinced Freddie can gameplan to our strengths. Before the SF game, Tony Grossi mentioned that because of Shanahan's offense we'd have to play 3 linebackers more often to contain the run. What do we do in SF's opening possession? 2 LBs and we're taken to the woodshed. A true headcoach would tell Wilkes-" I know you like putting only two LBs back there but make sure we have 3 and stop the run no matter what".

Yes I do but week 3 against Tampa was disconcerting, Baker was missing wide open guys something he never did in the second half of last season. I just put it down to " well it's the preseason, OBJ, Landry and Njoku sat out" but it appears that it was more foretelling than we all thought. For the first time I drafted not one but two Browns in my first 4 rounds and now paying the price (-2 fantasy points for Baker last game).

The change in question would be pressuring Kitchens to give up playcalling and without playcalling duties he's essentially deadman walking. Will Dorsey be able to admit he was wrong in hiring Kitchens?

Bob Wiley gave an explosive interview during the preseason and made several claims: https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/08/ex-browns-ol-coach-bob-wylie-rips-freddie-kitchens-saying-qb-coach-ken-zampese-did-all-the-coaching.html 1. The post Hue success was due to Gregg Williams. 2. Dorsey didn't hire Williams because he didn't want to deal with a strong willed coach which may also explain why a different veteran coach wasn't hired. 3. Offensive success was mainly due to Zampese the QB coach. Indisputable that Mayfield has regressed under the new QB coach and this offense. Also in my opinion the OL has regressed under the new Oline coach. Tackles Robinson and Hubbard graded mediocre last season but they're awful this year. Dorsey won't admit it publicly but by trading for Beckham he was aiming for at minimum a playoff spot. Even though the second half of the schedule is easier, these inconsistent performances and lack of discipline will result in us losing winnable games and possibly missing the playoffs.

The problem with Baker (and the playcaller, Freddie) is that they appear to panic when down and go for chunk plays rather than methodically working back into the game with short passes. Defenses have picked up on that and easily pin their ears back with our suspect O line.

In the historic 0-16 season we were only blown out twice in the latter half of the season with much less talent. Hate to see this and I thought Kitchens hire made sense at the time but I don't envisage long term success with Kitchens at the helm. Because of the schedule we may have a 10-6 season like in 2006 but flame out next year.

Baker's our QB but he's an *ss. Friend of mine was a guest of Ogunjobi at last season' KC game, asked Baker to sign a jersey for me and flat out refused to sign it or be pleasant about it.

Owe you an apology man for thinking the Browns should actually win a game they're supposed to win. Shanahan obviously had this game circled and handed it to us because Freddie was fricking clueless. Not predicting any more games this season with Freddie in charge because a hallmark of a bad coach is inability to get consistent performances from his players and put them in the best position to win. Passing to Callaway in the Red Zone when there's Landry and Beckham? Scheme ways to get them open coach. Plus asking Callaway to switch from X to Z receiver after returning from suspension? Way to go coach. Asking Pharaoh Brown to block Sosa? Even I wouldn't draw that up. We may still make the playoffs due to a weak schedule post bye but don't fool yourself that we'll win a game there.

Be positive Bro, Freddie's returned to his roots that got him the job and dumped Monken's dumb offensive scheme. Strap in for the ride!